(08-19-2018 08:59 AM)wmmii Wrote:  

(08-18-2018 03:48 PM)nogretheogre Wrote:  If they ever decide to move the Championship game out of Frisco, I wonder if theyd consider having it in our nations capital? The new DC united stadium would be a perfect venue.

Not likely for a early January game-weather risk precludes it. Needs to stay in Deep South.

Used to have it in Chattanooga near the mountains of TN...I doubt the weather there was a much safer bet. Looks like they jumped from one new stadium (1997 Chattanooga) to another new one (2005 Frisco). Frisco is a MLS stadium, as is this brand new one. Same capacity as Frisco.

DC is mid-atlantic and tempered fairly well until late January...its not Green Bay.

I think they like the more nationcentric location in Frisco for a national championship. That said, from an east coast DC based perspective, I think it's a great idea.

(08-19-2018 09:29 AM)nogretheogre Wrote:  

(08-19-2018 08:59 AM)wmmii Wrote:  

(08-18-2018 03:48 PM)nogretheogre Wrote:  If they ever decide to move the Championship game out of Frisco, I wonder if theyd consider having it in our nations capital? The new DC united stadium would be a perfect venue.

Not likely for a early January game-weather risk precludes it. Needs to stay in Deep South.

Used to have it in Chattanooga near the mountains of TN...I doubt the weather there was a much safer bet. Looks like they jumped from one new stadium (1997 Chattanooga) to another new one (2005 Frisco). Frisco is a MLS stadium, as is this brand new one. Same capacity as Frisco.

DC is mid-atlantic and tempered fairly well until late January...its not Green Bay.

It is a great stadium in DC and would love to see it there. I observe that the game played in in Chattanooga was in December before they moved from 16 to 24 teams as I remember. I remember the weather over the last two years in early January for DC has had heavy snow !

(12-16-2016 10:21 PM)Tribal Wrote:  I'm not in the group that roots for CAA teams when their winning benefits W&M not in the least. I get it if a strong conference RPI helps W&M get an at-large (assuming we were good enough to earn that).

I hate every team in the CAA that was founded after 1693.

JMU going to Frisco hurts our recruitment and gives theirs a big shot in the arm.

Nope, will never cheer for them. It's hatred, not jealousy.

One Tribe. One Family.

After some time away from the board and an administrative snafu, I'm back on the board and ready for football season. This afternoon, I came across this post from 2016.

My son was in the JMU marching band 2013-16 and he got to enjoy two trips to the FCS Championship, one for the win. He could not understand how I could not root for "his team". I explained I'd root for whatever outcome would help MY team the most. I hope now that he (and I) are a couple of years removed from that situation he'll understand why I will not root for them at all now. This post spells it out perfectly! I'm going to commit it to memory and be ready with the topic comes up again...likely next week. Thanks, Tribal.

GO TRIBE!

(08-24-2018 02:09 PM)ScottyB757 Wrote:  

(12-16-2016 10:21 PM)Tribal Wrote:  I'm not in the group that roots for CAA teams when their winning benefits W&M not in the least. I get it if a strong conference RPI helps W&M get an at-large (assuming we were good enough to earn that).

I hate every team in the CAA that was founded after 1693.

JMU going to Frisco hurts our recruitment and gives theirs a big shot in the arm.

Nope, will never cheer for them. It's hatred, not jealousy.

One Tribe. One Family.

After some time away from the board and an administrative snafu, I'm back on the board and ready for football season. This afternoon, I came across this post from 2016.

My son was in the JMU marching band 2013-16 and he got to enjoy two trips to the FCS Championship, one for the win. He could not understand how I could not root for "his team". I explained I'd root for whatever outcome would help MY team the most. I hope now that he (and I) are a couple of years removed from that situation he'll understand why I will not root for them at all now. This post spells it out perfectly! I'm going to commit it to memory and be ready with the topic comes up again...likely next week. Thanks, Tribal.

GO TRIBE!

so your son and your $$$$ went to JMU and you would not root for them??? The CAA members should all pull for each other; build the conference up instead of tearing it down; IF W&M went to the NCAA in basketball, wouldn't you want the rest of the CAA to cheer them on?

(08-24-2018 02:57 PM)jmudukes Wrote:  

(08-24-2018 02:09 PM)ScottyB757 Wrote:  

(12-16-2016 10:21 PM)Tribal Wrote:  I'm not in the group that roots for CAA teams when their winning benefits W&M not in the least. I get it if a strong conference RPI helps W&M get an at-large (assuming we were good enough to earn that).

I hate every team in the CAA that was founded after 1693.

JMU going to Frisco hurts our recruitment and gives theirs a big shot in the arm.

Nope, will never cheer for them. It's hatred, not jealousy.

One Tribe. One Family.

After some time away from the board and an administrative snafu, I'm back on the board and ready for football season. This afternoon, I came across this post from 2016.

My son was in the JMU marching band 2013-16 and he got to enjoy two trips to the FCS Championship, one for the win. He could not understand how I could not root for "his team". I explained I'd root for whatever outcome would help MY team the most. I hope now that he (and I) are a couple of years removed from that situation he'll understand why I will not root for them at all now. This post spells it out perfectly! I'm going to commit it to memory and be ready with the topic comes up again...likely next week. Thanks, Tribal.

GO TRIBE!

so your son and your $$$$ went to JMU and you would not root for them??? The CAA members should all pull for each other; build the conference up instead of tearing it down; IF W&M went to the NCAA in basketball, wouldn't you want the rest of the CAA to cheer them on?

I'm with this guy.

(08-24-2018 02:57 PM)jmudukes Wrote:  

(08-24-2018 02:09 PM)ScottyB757 Wrote:  

(12-16-2016 10:21 PM)Tribal Wrote:  I'm not in the group that roots for CAA teams when their winning benefits W&M not in the least. I get it if a strong conference RPI helps W&M get an at-large (assuming we were good enough to earn that).

I hate every team in the CAA that was founded after 1693.

JMU going to Frisco hurts our recruitment and gives theirs a big shot in the arm.

Nope, will never cheer for them. It's hatred, not jealousy.

One Tribe. One Family.

After some time away from the board and an administrative snafu, I'm back on the board and ready for football season. This afternoon, I came across this post from 2016.

My son was in the JMU marching band 2013-16 and he got to enjoy two trips to the FCS Championship, one for the win. He could not understand how I could not root for "his team". I explained I'd root for whatever outcome would help MY team the most. I hope now that he (and I) are a couple of years removed from that situation he'll understand why I will not root for them at all now. This post spells it out perfectly! I'm going to commit it to memory and be ready with the topic comes up again...likely next week. Thanks, Tribal.

GO TRIBE!

so your son and your $$$$ went to JMU and you would not root for them??? The CAA members should all pull for each other; build the conference up instead of tearing it down; IF W&M went to the NCAA in basketball, wouldn't you want the rest of the CAA to cheer them on?

I wouldn't be so desperate for attention that I'd care if other teams rooted for W&M, and I certainly wouldn't go to opposing message boards in a quest to satisfy said desperation.

(08-24-2018 02:57 PM)jmudukes Wrote:  

(08-24-2018 02:09 PM)ScottyB757 Wrote:  

(12-16-2016 10:21 PM)Tribal Wrote:  I'm not in the group that roots for CAA teams when their winning benefits W&M not in the least. I get it if a strong conference RPI helps W&M get an at-large (assuming we were good enough to earn that).

I hate every team in the CAA that was founded after 1693.

JMU going to Frisco hurts our recruitment and gives theirs a big shot in the arm.

Nope, will never cheer for them. It's hatred, not jealousy.

One Tribe. One Family.

After some time away from the board and an administrative snafu, I'm back on the board and ready for football season. This afternoon, I came across this post from 2016.

My son was in the JMU marching band 2013-16 and he got to enjoy two trips to the FCS Championship, one for the win. He could not understand how I could not root for "his team". I explained I'd root for whatever outcome would help MY team the most. I hope now that he (and I) are a couple of years removed from that situation he'll understand why I will not root for them at all now. This post spells it out perfectly! I'm going to commit it to memory and be ready with the topic comes up again...likely next week. Thanks, Tribal.

GO TRIBE!

so your son and your $$$$ went to JMU and you would not root for them??? The CAA members should all pull for each other; build the conference up instead of tearing it down; IF W&M went to the NCAA in basketball, wouldn't you want the rest of the CAA to cheer them on?

Nah

I'm a "rising tide" guy. If they aren't playing us, or a win by a certain CAA team (any CAA team) would hurt OUR chances at a championship, then I'm a League guy. It'll help us in the long run...notoriety in FB, extra bid in MBB. Just win Baby.

I mean there are conference teams I'll root for and conference teams I won't. JMU falls squarely in the "won't" column.

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(08-25-2018 01:48 PM)zablenoise Wrote:  I mean there are conference teams I'll root for and conference teams I won't. JMU falls squarely in the "won't" column.

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Same here, but JMU is on the other side of the line for me. Mrs. Ribe has two degrees from there, plus, in different ways, the school has been really good to both of us.

That said, there's nobody--NOBODY--I want to beat more than JMU. :)

(08-24-2018 02:57 PM)jmudukes Wrote:  

(08-24-2018 02:09 PM)ScottyB757 Wrote:  

(12-16-2016 10:21 PM)Tribal Wrote:  I'm not in the group that roots for CAA teams when their winning benefits W&M not in the least. I get it if a strong conference RPI helps W&M get an at-large (assuming we were good enough to earn that).

I hate every team in the CAA that was founded after 1693.

JMU going to Frisco hurts our recruitment and gives theirs a big shot in the arm.

Nope, will never cheer for them. It's hatred, not jealousy.

One Tribe. One Family.

After some time away from the board and an administrative snafu, I'm back on the board and ready for football season. This afternoon, I came across this post from 2016.

My son was in the JMU marching band 2013-16 and he got to enjoy two trips to the FCS Championship, one for the win. He could not understand how I could not root for "his team". I explained I'd root for whatever outcome would help MY team the most. I hope now that he (and I) are a couple of years removed from that situation he'll understand why I will not root for them at all now. This post spells it out perfectly! I'm going to commit it to memory and be ready with the topic comes up again...likely next week. Thanks, Tribal.

GO TRIBE!

so your son and your $$$$ went to JMU and you would not root for them??? The CAA members should all pull for each other; build the conference up instead of tearing it down; IF W&M went to the NCAA in basketball, wouldn't you want the rest of the CAA to cheer them on?

That's right. My son PLUS four years worth of tuition and other expenses went to Harrisonburg...but I'm done rooting for them. (Full disclosure: I was there for most of the home playoff games those years, even the frigid Sam Houston State game. KC Keeler made it easy to root for JMU that night.)

I was a football season ticket holder and - wait for it - DUKE CLUB MEMBER - all four years my son was at JMU (I only joined for the minimum to get better seats and guaranteed parking near a bus stop). In fact, even though I've been going to Tribe games since 1980, JMU home games took top priority while he was there. I sat amongst the Dukies, often listening to WM football on my radio. I enjoyed listening to them grouse about Mickey Matthews. I watched them work themselves into a lather over Everett Withers, then Mike Houston, all the while rooting against them if it was in the Tribe's best interests.

I'll even admit to rooting for them on their championship runs knowing my kid would get to enjoy something as part of his college experience that he'd never forget. But now that he's a graduate, I'm totally aligned with Tribal. Every bit of success they have makes it that much more difficult for WM. Hell, they're even back on the radio in Tidewater. Lovely...but at least Tony Mercurio isn't on the radio to slobber all over them.

And Got Ribe is right, too: there's NO team I'd rather beat than JMU.

Finally, I wouldn't give two hoots about who else roots for WM when we finally make it to the Big Dance. We will have PLENTY of support whether or not our Rockingham County cousins choose to root for the Tribe...and somehow I suspect we'll be in the Dance before the Hoopin' Dukes make it back.

GO TRIBE!

Anyone who roots for JMU is a bad person. It's really that simple.

Amendment: If you graduated from JMU and you currently teach at a public school, you aren't *necessarily* a bad person. You still could be, though, it's just not a lock.

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(08-25-2018 02:40 PM)Got Ribe Wrote:  Same here, but JMU is on the other side of the line for me. Mrs. Ribe has two degrees from there, plus, in different ways, the school has been really good to both of us.

That said, there's nobody--NOBODY--I want to beat more than JMU. :)

Different strokes for different folks I guess. I'm about to marry a Monarch (I know... I know...) But I sure as **** don't root for their teams.

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(08-25-2018 09:20 PM)Tribal Wrote:  Anyone who roots for JMU is a bad person. It's really that simple.

Amendment: If you graduated from JMU and you currently teach at a public school, you aren't *necessarily* a bad person. You still could be, though, it's just not a lock.

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Yay I get a personal disclaimer!

(08-26-2018 12:57 AM)zablenoise Wrote:  

(08-25-2018 02:40 PM)Got Ribe Wrote:  Same here, but JMU is on the other side of the line for me. Mrs. Ribe has two degrees from there, plus, in different ways, the school has been really good to both of us.

That said, there's nobody--NOBODY--I want to beat more than JMU. :)

Different strokes for different folks I guess. I'm about to marry a Monarch (I know... I know...) But I sure as **** don't root for their teams.

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This was me for 30 years. But, once you actually work with some of these athletes and get to know the administration, you realize that they are good people. It's kind of hard to harbor animosity when there is a personal connection. That said, the old me still creeps in sometimes and I find myself rooting hard against them.

Congrats on your engagement!

(08-25-2018 01:48 PM)zablenoise Wrote:  I mean there are conference teams I'll root for and conference teams I won't. JMU falls squarely in the "won't" column.

I agree with this -- but with a caveat. For me, it also depends on what sport it is.

For example, I root for every and any CAA team in the NCAA basketball tournament because, with the CAA being only a one bid league, the CAA needs all of the exposure it can get and the best way to get exposure is to get wins.

That is why I also root for the CAA in other sports, too. Delaware won a national championship in Field Hockey just two years ago -- and that was good for the league. I also root for New Hampshire and Stony Brook and Towson etc in football (although I admit that I am getting a little tired of hearing about UNH having been to the playoffs for 13 straight years when years 11 and 12 they were damn lucky to have been invited).

But football is where I draw the line with JMU. I have rooted for their basketball team in the past (when Lefty Driesell made the NCAAT) and I have rooted for their softball team recently --- but I will NEVER root for their football team under any circumstances. I reveled in their defeat to NDSU and I was sorry when they beat Youngstown St. for their championship. I was happy when they lost in the playoffs to Appy State on a late fumble. I have hated them forever and 2004 did not help. I still remember a Tribe winning TD being called back against them very late in a game recently and they won that game in overtime (when Jimmye went for a 2-point conversion and failed). So, JMU being so good in football might be good for the CAA's reputation but it is not good for W&M. If I had the choice between beating Tech or beating JMU this year in football, the choice would be very tough even though on the surface it would look like a no-brainer. I guess I would choose Tech but the very fact that I had to think about it shows you how much I hate JMU.

For some old grads (well, older than me anyway) the big most-hated opponent is the Richmond Spiders. But not me -- it is JMU that I hate!

(08-26-2018 06:02 AM)HyperDuke Wrote:  

(08-25-2018 09:20 PM)Tribal Wrote:  Anyone who roots for JMU is a bad person. It's really that simple.

Amendment: If you graduated from JMU and you currently teach at a public school, you aren't *necessarily* a bad person. You still could be, though, it's just not a lock.

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Yay I get a personal disclaimer!

Ok, I admit, the disclaimer was drafted for you. Don't you feel special?

On Zorch's note, I agree with everything except the claim that UD winning the FH title helped the CAA. Very few follow FH and fewer know who won the title. Football and basketball are the only sports that move the CAA reputation needle.

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For me, there was not hatred at all until 2004. I witnessed one of the best games I have ever seen in Harrisonburg that season only to have our hearts ripped out in the rematch in Williamsburg. Then, there was the 2010 game where they failed to complete a pass and still won, and the 6 or 7 W&M-JMU games that Justin Thorpe played in. They are a rival for us and it is as simple as that.

There was only one fun thing about last year's homecoming beatdown and that was an exchange that took place in the student section for W&M. As the game immediately got away from us in the first quarter a group of 150-200 Tribe students began chanting JMU-Safety School(basically another version of the "JMU, the original Plan B" Homecoming shirt from 2009). There were several JMU students in the W&M student section at the time and one promptly responded to the chant, I don't get it. JMU was not my safety school. What do you mean? One Tribe student politely responded, It's ok, we know you don't get it.

Hopefully, we can be more competitive on the field this year. Last year was basically the only one that hasn't been either a win or competitive in a long time. Certainly not looking forward to the Sept 22 trip to the house of horrors.

Will echo that there are a lot of good teachers that attended JMU. Definitely respect the school and have some friends that have gone there, but they are rival #1 in football, with the Spiders #2.

For basketball, JMU isn't in the top 5, they just haven't been relevant enough in the last few years to be there.

(08-26-2018 07:24 PM)TribePride91 Wrote:  For basketball, JMU isn't in the top 5, they just haven't been relevant enough in the last few years to be there.

That line, there-- if we don't watch it -- and start winning again -- then JMU will feel that way about us in football. I know some JMU fans who already feel that way.