john makes claims but doesnt provide a link...

Trump is an outright crook.

He uses his Twitter account to tank stocks -- no doubt his traders had shorted the stock.


And then has the gall to make secret service pay his own airline to ride on his "superior" plane. What a damn shyster. Impeach this crook, before he does something we can't take back!!!


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-...01f274c502

Washington Post, the epitome of unbiased reporting. Ha, ha, ha, what a joke. Priceless.

The liberals are truly going nuts, and it’s beautiful.

Developing a highly classified aircraft increases costs by maybe a factor of ten.

Figure 400 million for two planes and the rest is security overhead.

(12-06-2016 05:00 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Washington Post, the epitome of unbiased reporting. Ha, ha, ha, what a joke. Priceless.

Fake news

Hey, I was just thinking. You know who will never ride on a new Air Force One?

Hilary Clinton.

(12-06-2016 05:44 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Hey, I was just thinking. You know who will never ride on a new Air Force One?

Hilary Clinton.

(12-06-2016 05:45 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 05:44 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Hey, I was just thinking. You know who will never ride on a new Air Force One?

Hilary Clinton.

You had to say that. Now every Libturd will be crying. Still.

That's like when Oblunder came out on a tv program with a cell phone and he said, "at least I've been president" or words to that effect. Before the election Oblunder was right but proven wrong later. Ohh, I'll bet that hurt his Hiney-ness. To have to admit that Donald Trump who's made more of his life than he has to be president. And don't say he hasn't, he's a billionaire where all the money Oblunder has was given to him by USes.

(12-06-2016 05:36 PM)Claw Wrote:  Developing a highly classified aircraft increases costs by maybe a factor of ten.

Figure 400 million for two planes and the rest is security overhead.

Well you need a SCIF, which they already have and the labor will be about 15% higher, but not sure it quadruples the cost... the technology the secure it already exists.

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(12-06-2016 05:31 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  The liberals are truly going nuts, and it’s beautiful.

The only people going nuts are the ones who think it's unethical for a POTUS-E to use his twitter account to illegally manipulate the stocks of American companies.

Then again, maybe his agenda has been to get the Russians to build him a new airplane?

(12-06-2016 05:44 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  You know who will never ride on a new Air Force One?

Because only the president ever rides on it, right?

(12-06-2016 06:02 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 05:31 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  The liberals are truly going nuts, and it’s beautiful.

The only people going nuts are the ones who think it's unethical for a POTUS-E to use his twitter account to illegally manipulate the stocks of American companies.

Then again, maybe his agenda has been to get the Russians to build him a new airplane?

(12-06-2016 05:44 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  You know who will never ride on a new Air Force One?

Because only the president ever rides on it, right?

No, perhaps Trump in all his magnanimousness will give Killary a ride on it to Leavenworth. Hey, who wouldn't want that? Her last dying wish as "the almost president". LOL

At least she came out as the "second winner". Ha, ha, ha.

(12-06-2016 06:02 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  The only people going nuts are the ones who think it's unethical for a POTUS-E to use his twitter account to illegally manipulate the stocks of American companies.

I smell desperation.. If the best you have is "Trumper is maNipulating stocks via hte Twitter>!!!11!" then you have nothing.

(12-06-2016 06:02 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Then again, maybe his agenda has been to get the Russians to build him a new airplane?

Yes. This is almost certainly what it is :eyeroll:

(12-06-2016 06:02 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Because only the president ever rides on it, right?

In general, yes. The President and his staff, plus some media, and selected others. It's not a plane for commoners like Hilary Clinton.

Are you unfamiliar with this basic reality?

Ooooh, "commoners like Hillary Clinton." Even I felt that stinger. LOL

(12-06-2016 03:31 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Why does Trump hate Boeing?

Because Boing was on the gravy train biggly when it came to the bogus Iran deal. And they were all in for the Clinton Crime Family Foundation for a rea$on.

(12-06-2016 06:14 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 06:02 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  The only people going nuts are the ones who think it's unethical for a POTUS-E to use his twitter account to illegally manipulate the stocks of American companies.

I smell desperation.. If the best you have is "Trumper is maNipulating stocks via hte Twitter>!!!11!" then you have nothing.

(12-06-2016 06:02 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Then again, maybe his agenda has been to get the Russians to build him a new airplane?

Yes. This is almost certainly what it is :eyeroll:

(12-06-2016 06:02 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Because only the president ever rides on it, right?

In general, yes. The President and his staff, plus some media, and selected others. It's not a plane for commoners like Hilary Clinton.

Are you unfamiliar with this basic reality?

havent you heard? its their new talking point. They just got it fresh this morning.

(12-06-2016 06:21 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 03:31 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Why does Trump hate Boeing?

Because Boing was on the gravy train biggly when it came to the bogus Iran deal. And they were all in for the Clinton Crime Family Foundation for a rea$on.

It was a Boeing deal disguised as a Nuke deal.

(12-06-2016 03:27 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  Hope they cut the price in half and build a flying tomb for this fool.

1. Stay classy, cb.
2. President Pence is something I could get used to.

(12-06-2016 03:31 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Why does Trump hate Boeing?

rath v2.0 beat me to it.

(12-06-2016 03:42 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 03:27 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Dude is begging on his hands and knees for impeachment, and he hasn't even taken office yet.

It's just gonna be one tweet and *POOF* the plug gets pulled. I bet it happens in the first year.

For calling out that it looks like the government was getting screwed by a corporation?

I thought the liberals would love this stuff.

Unless a Republican does it. Then it's evil-impeachable-unethical-blah-blah-blah.

I would expect the cost of AF-1 to be more than a normal run of the mill 747-8, but given the 747-8 is somewhere in the $360 million range.......I'm having a bit of trouble with how 2 of them would get to $4 billion. I mean, it's generally going to be a 747-8 with some modifications, but it's not like they are starting with a blank sheet of paper and creating a plane from nothing...

Are the heads equipped with toilets of gold????

(12-06-2016 05:54 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(12-06-2016 05:36 PM)Claw Wrote:  Developing a highly classified aircraft increases costs by maybe a factor of ten.

Figure 400 million for two planes and the rest is security overhead.

Well you need a SCIF, which they already have and the labor will be about 15% higher, but not sure it quadruples the cost... the technology the secure it already exists.

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I would think AF1 would have several one-of-a-kind devices. When you are talking AF1 you are talking about inspecting every cushion, every wire, every circuit, and every nook and cranny through the entire process. Every worker has to have a clearance. Every part vetted and every vendor cleared. That's a lot of expenses that don't produce anything.

If I was taking that risk the price would be more than quadrupled. A compromised product would be undeliverable.