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RE: To all those complaining about NOLA bowl selection
(12-19-2016 05:42 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(12-19-2016 05:34 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  
(12-19-2016 05:20 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(12-19-2016 05:03 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  
(12-19-2016 04:58 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I define better as 'having more exposure', which I define as ratings and likelihood of people watching it. Most people aren't going to even know that CBSSN is on their cable package. Or where it is. ESPN didn't hype the game or its results either. It went into the ether largely. That was a missed opportunity for the conference IMHO.

The UCF team didn't even go through the pre-bowl activities. I'm not sure it was a real reward for stAte winning the conference.

You're free to define it using some other metric.

You went to Orlando? Again you seem to think you speak for everyone...the stAte guy whose team went to Nola last year and Orlando this year disagrees with you but let's be honest this is only about you Tom. Ask the stAte players if they hated Orlando.

If stAte wishes to punt on an ESPN bowl to playing in a game that isn't well promoted, isn't watched at the same level as an ESPN bowl, and where the results aren't going to be prominently discussed...that's their deal. I understand that CBSSN did a good job with the production, but there's still a huge gap in exposure.

Troy to NO, App to Mobile and stAte to Montgomery would have been better for the conference IMHO.

Placing a team that has lost SEVEN straight FBS OOC games and has lost TEN of their last ELEVEN in a higher profile tier isn't a good way to promote the conference. Especially if they really didn't earn it in conference play.

You seem to try and pretend that the NO Bowl is just the same as the Cure or Tucson Bowls. But then you spend a lot of effort defending ULL's stranglehold on it.

How many tickets did the ULL office sell for the game?

About half of the stadium was red (about 17K-18K). Maybe slightly more. My supposition is that most of those were purchased thru Ticketmaster and not the local ticket office like previous years, mostly due to costs and a large drive up business.

So ULL and the Belt won't even get much of the money from the supposed ULL attendance at the game? Well then there's that too. I thought that was one of the reasons why ULL deserved this game. If all ULL did through its ticket office was sell 10k, then the argument that ULL in the NO Bowl helps the Belt because they sell more tickets and make more money for the conference isn't particularly valid. Okay.

How much money did Arkansas State give to the conference last year? How much as any team other than UL provided to the conference from a bowl? I'm thinking it's none as they never enacted the rule until the Cajuns brought enough fans (and sold enough tickets) to a bowl to actually make a profit. You sure you're not from California or New York?
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RE: To all those complaining about NOLA bowl selection
(12-19-2016 01:01 PM)trapdrawApp Wrote:  
(12-19-2016 12:53 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  
(12-19-2016 12:47 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  Shh, I like the idea of him licking his balls.

Dude, you just took this thread in a TOTALLY different direction....

Maybe a direction that finally kills it.

Sadly, no.

Tom is back.03-banghead
12-19-2016 06:22 PM
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RE: To all those complaining about NOLA bowl selection
(12-19-2016 05:42 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(12-19-2016 05:34 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  
(12-19-2016 05:20 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(12-19-2016 05:03 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  
(12-19-2016 04:58 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I define better as 'having more exposure', which I define as ratings and likelihood of people watching it. Most people aren't going to even know that CBSSN is on their cable package. Or where it is. ESPN didn't hype the game or its results either. It went into the ether largely. That was a missed opportunity for the conference IMHO.

The UCF team didn't even go through the pre-bowl activities. I'm not sure it was a real reward for stAte winning the conference.

You're free to define it using some other metric.

You went to Orlando? Again you seem to think you speak for everyone...the stAte guy whose team went to Nola last year and Orlando this year disagrees with you but let's be honest this is only about you Tom. Ask the stAte players if they hated Orlando.

If stAte wishes to punt on an ESPN bowl to playing in a game that isn't well promoted, isn't watched at the same level as an ESPN bowl, and where the results aren't going to be prominently discussed...that's their deal. I understand that CBSSN did a good job with the production, but there's still a huge gap in exposure.

Troy to NO, App to Mobile and stAte to Montgomery would have been better for the conference IMHO.

Placing a team that has lost SEVEN straight FBS OOC games and has lost TEN of their last ELEVEN in a higher profile tier isn't a good way to promote the conference. Especially if they really didn't earn it in conference play.

You seem to try and pretend that the NO Bowl is just the same as the Cure or Tucson Bowls. But then you spend a lot of effort defending ULL's stranglehold on it.

How many tickets did the ULL office sell for the game?

About half of the stadium was red (about 17K-18K). Maybe slightly more. My supposition is that most of those were purchased thru Ticketmaster and not the local ticket office like previous years, mostly due to costs and a large drive up business.

So ULL and the Belt won't even get much of the money from the supposed ULL attendance at the game? Well then there's that too. I thought that was one of the reasons why ULL deserved this game. If all ULL did through its ticket office was sell 10k, then the argument that ULL in the NO Bowl helps the Belt because they sell more tickets and make more money for the conference isn't particularly valid. Okay.

Again you don't get it. 4th attended crowd in N.O. Bowl history.

That's all the Bowl cares about. It's their party, they hand out the invites.

It insures that there will be a 2017 New Orleans bowl.

But I guess that doesn't matter at all to you does it? Because we've already hung our reserved sign, right?
12-19-2016 06:26 PM
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Can't believe this ridiculous thread is still going.......
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RE: To all those complaining about NOLA bowl selection
Just an update. I also wonder what the actual attendances were.

•New Orleans Bowl: 35,061
•Celebration Bowl: 31,096
•New Mexico Bowl: 29,688
•Las Vegas Bowl: 29,286
•Cure Bowl: 27,213
•Camellia Bowl: 20,256
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(12-19-2016 06:37 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  Just an update. I also wonder what the actual attendances were.

•New Orleans Bowl: 35,061
•Celebration Bowl: 31,096
•New Mexico Bowl: 29,688
•Las Vegas Bowl: 29,286
•Cure Bowl: 27,213
•Camellia Bowl: 20,256

I would be willing to bet that had the two ASUs swapped bowls both of those bowls would have seen considerably higher attendance figures.
12-19-2016 07:12 PM
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RE: To all those complaining about NOLA bowl selection
(12-19-2016 06:37 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  Just an update. I also wonder what the actual attendances were.

•New Orleans Bowl: 35,061
•Celebration Bowl: 31,096
•New Mexico Bowl: 29,688
•Las Vegas Bowl: 29,286
•Cure Bowl: 27,213
•Camellia Bowl: 20,256

To be fair though... doesn't the Camellia bowl have a capacity of like 22k?
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RE: To all those complaining about NOLA bowl selection
(12-19-2016 07:12 PM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  
(12-19-2016 06:37 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  Just an update. I also wonder what the actual attendances were.

•New Orleans Bowl: 35,061
•Celebration Bowl: 31,096
•New Mexico Bowl: 29,688
•Las Vegas Bowl: 29,286
•Cure Bowl: 27,213
•Camellia Bowl: 20,256

I would be willing to bet that had the two ASUs swapped bowls both of those bowls would have seen considerably higher attendance figures.

Maybe but maybe not and that's not a slight at stAte but do you think that a regular season rematch of Toledo (something bowls avoid) and your 4th game against them in 2 years is something that would have excited either fan base or the bowl?
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RE: To all those complaining about NOLA bowl selection
(12-19-2016 07:36 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  
(12-19-2016 07:12 PM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  
(12-19-2016 06:37 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  Just an update. I also wonder what the actual attendances were.

•New Orleans Bowl: 35,061
•Celebration Bowl: 31,096
•New Mexico Bowl: 29,688
•Las Vegas Bowl: 29,286
•Cure Bowl: 27,213
•Camellia Bowl: 20,256

I would be willing to bet that had the two ASUs swapped bowls both of those bowls would have seen considerably higher attendance figures.

Maybe but maybe not and that's not a slight at stAte but do you think that a regular season rematch of Toledo (something bowls avoid) and your 4th game against them in 2 years is something that would have excited either fan base or the bowl?


Well I wasn't talking about a rematch with Toledo. Just a general bowl swap as in ASU vs UCF at the Camelia and App vs Toledo in Orlando.
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RE: To all those complaining about NOLA bowl selection
(12-19-2016 06:22 PM)AstroCajun Wrote:  
(12-19-2016 01:01 PM)trapdrawApp Wrote:  
(12-19-2016 12:53 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  
(12-19-2016 12:47 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  Shh, I like the idea of him licking his balls.

Dude, you just took this thread in a TOTALLY different direction....

Maybe a direction that finally kills it.

Sadly, no.

Tom is back.03-banghead

If the mental image of encouraging one to continue licking his own testicles isn't enough, then I'm out of ideas.
12-19-2016 08:20 PM
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RE: To all those complaining about NOLA bowl selection
(12-19-2016 08:20 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  If the mental image of encouraging one to continue licking his own testicles isn't enough, then I'm out of ideas.

Why bring Tom back into this? 01-lauramac2
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