(11-07-2016 06:28 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Which leads me to my declaration until further notice. Some sort of punishment of must be dealt to an organization so corrupt and so devious that they actually campaigned a coordinated political attack that inflicted heavy damage to the D's chances of taking the Senate. Some standard of journalistic integrity must be kept. I will not believe or comment to any article coming out of a Murdoch owned subsidiary. They are not an arm of journalism.

Applying that same standard with equal vigor, neither are ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, or PBS, among others.

We're at a point where the most credible news source may be the National Enquirer--or at least the most non-partisan.

(11-07-2016 08:01 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-07-2016 06:28 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Which leads me to my declaration until further notice. Some sort of punishment of must be dealt to an organization so corrupt and so devious that they actually campaigned a coordinated political attack that inflicted heavy damage to the D's chances of taking the Senate. Some standard of journalistic integrity must be kept. I will not believe or comment to any article coming out of a Murdoch owned subsidiary. They are not an arm of journalism.

Applying that same standard with equal vigor, neither are ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, or PBS, among others.

Actually, NBC, CNN and MSNBC are clearly worse. ABC and CBS are probably a little worse as well.

I actually enjoy PBS and I find the decommercialization of the news refreshing.

That's one place I like. It's a damn shame that the right has to fight it so much because they can't stand on their ideas. THEY HAVE TO ATTACK ALL sources.

Their message is so decrepit, stale, and toxic in almost all cases it can't stand up to any light.

Who has the better message on education? Who has the better message on health care? Who has the better message in science? Who has the better message on women's issues? Who has the better message when it comes to the economy? Seriously think about that one? Which states are the active drivers of the GDP????? They aren't red folks. You remember when we used to hear all of those Texas vs Californiz meme's? Cooter T would say look at Texas and how they are doing compared to California. We don't hear that anymore do we? Education is the driver of our economy now. Silicon Valley. The East Coast. Those aren't turning red boys. What you are going to see are the areas that are doing well will turn blue. Migration has a heck of a lot more to do with weather than political affiliation and the poorer the area unfortunately the redder it will become. It's become the blame them party.

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(11-07-2016 08:56 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I actually enjoy PBS and I find the decommercialization of the news refreshing.

That's one place I like. It's a damn shame that the right has to fight it so much because they can't stand on their ideas. THEY HAVE TO ATTACK ALL sources.

No one cares if PBS exists. They just don't want to pay for it. They can stand on their own, they don't need tax payer money.

People need to remember that Fox News is not really a news organization but rather a new analysis organization. The have no interest in giving people news but rather their spin on the news. The same goes for CNN, and MSNBC as well.

(11-07-2016 06:28 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Which leads me to my declaration until further notice. Some sort of punishment of must be dealt to an organization so corrupt and so devious that they actually campaigned a coordinated political attack that inflicted heavy damage to the D's chances of taking the Senate. Some standard of journalistic integrity must be kept. I will not believe or comment to any article coming out of a Murdoch owned subsidiary. They are not an arm of journalism.

I have the NY Daily News on line #1. They'd like to have a word with you.

(11-07-2016 08:56 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I actually enjoy PBS and I find the decommercialization of the news refreshing.

That's one place I like. It's a damn shame that the right has to fight it so much because they can't stand on their ideas. THEY HAVE TO ATTACK ALL sources.

Their message is so decrepit, stale, and toxic in almost all cases it can't stand up to any light.

Who has the better message on education? Who has the better message on health care? Who has the better message in science? Who has the better message on women's issues? Who has the better message when it comes to the economy? Seriously think about that one? Which states are the active drivers of the GDP????? They aren't red folks. You remember when we used to hear all of those Texas vs Californiz meme's? Cooter T would say look at Texas and how they are doing compared to California. We don't hear that anymore do we? Education is the driver of our economy now. Silicon Valley. The East Coast. Those aren't turning red boys. What you are going to see are the areas that are doing well will turn blue. Migration has a heck of a lot more to do with weather than political affiliation and the poorer the area unfortunately the redder it will become. It's become the blame them party.

Mach, you are pretty delusional. The top 10 fastest growing cities include Austin, Houston, Dallas and San Antonio. California is bleeding people. If not for immigrants, they would be losing people.

As for talent attraction-#1 in the country is Austin. #2 Silicon Valley. #3 Houston.
http://www.citylab.com/work/2016/09/the-...on/499670/

If you look at salary adjusted for cost of living-Its not NYC. Its Sun Belt cities like Houston, Dallas, Austin.

http://www.governing.com/gov-data/metro-...-data.html

(11-07-2016 09:45 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-07-2016 08:56 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I actually enjoy PBS and I find the decommercialization of the news refreshing.

That's one place I like. It's a damn shame that the right has to fight it so much because they can't stand on their ideas. THEY HAVE TO ATTACK ALL sources.

Their message is so decrepit, stale, and toxic in almost all cases it can't stand up to any light.

Who has the better message on education? Who has the better message on health care? Who has the better message in science? Who has the better message on women's issues? Who has the better message when it comes to the economy? Seriously think about that one? Which states are the active drivers of the GDP????? They aren't red folks. You remember when we used to hear all of those Texas vs Californiz meme's? Cooter T would say look at Texas and how they are doing compared to California. We don't hear that anymore do we? Education is the driver of our economy now. Silicon Valley. The East Coast. Those aren't turning red boys. What you are going to see are the areas that are doing well will turn blue. Migration has a heck of a lot more to do with weather than political affiliation and the poorer the area unfortunately the redder it will become. It's become the blame them party.

Mach, you are pretty delusional. The top 10 fastest growing cities include Austin, Houston, Dallas and San Antonio. California is bleeding people. If not for immigrants, they would be losing people.

As for talent attraction-#1 in the country is Austin. #2 Silicon Valley. #3 Houston.
http://www.citylab.com/work/2016/09/the-...on/499670/

If you look at salary adjusted for cost of living-Its not NYC. Its Sun Belt cities like Houston, Dallas, Austin.

http://www.governing.com/gov-data/metro-...-data.html

and thats why I laughed my ass off after he posted that, he doesnt know what he is talking about

As for issues, Democrats offer no solutions for education. They just ask for more money when we are spending more per student than ever before. Democrats are about adult's jobs in education. Republicans have the innovative approaches. Republicans have the ideas to help the inner city schools Democrats have ignored for decades.

Health care Democrats offer a failing Obamacare and guarantee profits to insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies and windfalls for trial lawyers. Republicans aren't going to destroy what we have and have plans to attack non value added costs, which are mostly from people who heavily donate to Democrats.

In science Democrats are for internet science and mommy bloggers. Michelle Obama is making nutrition policy using her Chicago chef who has no background in nutrition. They refuse to discuss any non-orthodox positions on climate change and blame every weather pattern on it which is decidedly non-scientific. And they don't even try to do the logical things like restricting coastal development (too many Democratic donors making money on beachfront property).

Women's issues-how about jobs? If you are talking about abortion, a lot of women have problems with it. Obama's very FIRST action was to fund groups promoting abortions overseas, something that is deeply offensive to a majority of American taxpayers, even the pro choice ones.

Economy-no contest. The Republicans actually understand it. Democrats deny any negative effects from increasing the minimum wage. Any negative effects from high tax rates. They ignore the "science" that shows that jobs flee high tax states like California despite its natural advantages and jobs are fleeing the US for lower tax jurisdictions abroad.

Drivers of the economy? Nobody is growing like Texas. As for education, look at the public school rankings. Texas has shot up the rankings since the Republicans took over. They used to be around 35-40. Now they are top 20 in graduation rates. California is rapidly falling. They used to be near the top when it was a strong Republican state. Now they are bottom half. Look at the top growing areas. Almost all in Republican states with their lower taxes and fewer regulations.

90% of what you wrote is total bull****. Do you actually believed that shyt? Stack blue states GOP's against red states. Graduation rates? How bout ACT scores. Let's try that Pepsi challenge shall we.

Climate change is for real. Stop end of story. Which party is married to Carbon fuels and which party is trying to steer us into an alternative future. Which party is telling coal miners they have a future? That is a dying fuel source and the quicker Appalachia transitions away from it the better.

Nobody is growing like Texas???? Really.

I didn't think Texas would be this low and the oil crash has been especially brutal. 2016 will show them plummeting on GDP/capita

https://www.statista.com/statistics/2480...-by-state/

Actually if you are talking population,
Texas is the third fastest growing state (2015 results.)
North Dakota comes in at #1.

North Dakota - 2.22 percent increase.
District of Columbia - 1.92 percent increase.
Texas - 1.92 percent increase.
Nevada - 1.75 percent increase.
Florida - 1.74 percent increase.
Colorado - 1.66 percent increase.
Arizona - 1.58 percent increase.
Utah - 1.45 percent increase.
Idaho - 1.38 percent increase.
Washington - 1.29 percent increase.

http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/2...ation.html

You have your outliers sure but unfortunately you're going to see your poorer states trend red and the real drivers of the economy. Technology, Education, Pharmeucuticals, Health Initiatives all trend blue. It's where you are at and I know the simpletons around here who post cute pictures that they can circle jerk around to won't ever get it but some of the intelligentsia from the right who are left have to see this! You are being over taken by the under educated and poorly informed.

Your going to see the effects of the oil crash in your numbers soon.

(11-07-2016 11:23 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  You have your outliers sure but unfortunately you're going to see your poorer states trend red and the real drivers of the economy. Technology, Education, Pharmeucuticals, Health Initiatives all trend blue. It's where you are at and I know the simpletons around here who post cute pictures that they can circle jerk around to won't ever get it but some of the intelligentsia from the right who are left have to see this! You are being over taken by the under educated and poorly informed.

Your definition of "the poorest state" is a joke. You simply do not understand finances.

That would be Mississippi.

And here's an ACT like in on state rankings.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-r...d-west-lag