(12-04-2019 10:49 PM)Blow Gym rat Wrote:  

(12-04-2019 07:14 PM)tribeinexile Wrote:  We are acting scandalized by this article.

I can’t be the only person on this board who remembers 1974.

I remember 1974, but as I wasn't a student then I'm not aware of Ms. Pandak's role. I recall a number of the liberal arts faculty pushing the idea, though.

Ms Pandak was President of the Student Council.

(12-04-2019 10:26 PM)TheBigBass Wrote:  So yes, as a devout Tribe fan who played in the pep band, attended every football game and a ton of other athletic events, hasn't missed a homecoming since graduating (6 for 6!), contributes to the Athletic Dept. every year, and so on - I think we need to eventually wind down the football program.

Without football, you can forget about Homecoming. It won't exist, at least not in the format we see today.

I really don't understand why people would want to even consider this. It's a loser for the University to suspend football. Like it or not, it's part of college life and plays a very positive role overall. Football brings in more money with one game at UVA than the entire sports program combined. Some of our most notable alumni are ex football players, great ambassadors for W&M.

Agree with Bubba, thankfully football is too intwined into our Tribe culture to be dismissed.

(12-04-2019 10:57 PM)Zorch Wrote:  

(12-04-2019 07:14 PM)tribeinexile Wrote:  I can’t be the only person on this board who remembers 1974.

(12-04-2019 08:18 PM)tribeinexile Wrote:  .....
2) If I don't get some others on this board recounting their memories of 1974 then I'm declaring myself the old man of the board.

I got there in 1975. I do remember, though, a bunch of protests in 1979 where some students sought to de-emphasize football. The discussion was really about whether the college would provide the resources to keep W&M at the 1-A level (as an independent) or lower the commitment and play at the 1-AA level (also as an independent). I think the College finally went 1-AA in 1982 or so.

I have posted this before, but this film was the official response of the College to the controversy of 1974.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPrYWRNtc3M&t=7s

The 1979 controversy over enlargement of Cary Field is briefly outlined here:
https://scdbwiki.swem.wm.edu/wiki/index....le_Stadium

Stadium Expansion Controversy
In the 1970s there were demands from some football supporters and members of the Board of Visitors to expand the stadium further to seat 30,000 and secure a place for the university as a “big-time” athletic program. Williamsburg residents, students, faculty, staff, and alumni worked against the expansion including forming an opposition group, the Amos Alonzo Stagg Society. The outcry included boycotts of classes, rallies, the protest song “Ode to Cary Field” was written by a student, a Save the Charter Day event, a lawsuit, and other actions. Polls revealed 87% of students and 92% of faculty opposed further expansion of the stadium, but the Board continued to push for stadium expansion. The need for a larger stadium became a moot point after 3 years of discord when in December 1981 the NCAA lowered William & Mary from Division I-A to I-AA in football.

In 1979, the stadium underwent a $1 million renovation which raised seating capacity to 15,000, disposed of the original wooden bleachers, repaired masonry, crowned the field, and improved locker and equipment rooms.

Just as an aside, but the locker and equipment rooms were still a piece of crap after the renovation. The visitor's locker rooms were/are worse.

Just saw the frisbee dogs at the Ravens-Jets halftime show. Maybe they were just before their time!