(10-11-2016 06:47 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 06:32 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 06:31 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 05:29 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 05:18 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  No. They might crack it if they win out.

GSU, UMass, and USA don't exactly move the needle perception wise.

I think USA and APP would. South has wins over MSU and a ranked SDSU. That would count for something in the eyes of pollsters. APP is regarded as a pretty good team having gone toe to toe with #9 TENN early in the year.

Yes, but after we beat South Alabama, they'll be 3-3 heading into that game. That and Mississippi State is pretty terrible this season.

Confident of your game are you?

No, I'm just confused how South Alabama's 2 wins in OOC play are going to overcome the near loss to Nichols, and the two bad SBC losses they have. Especially enough to give Troy about 74 more points, when it's pretty clear one or two voters had them in their poll this week...max

The Southern loss, as it stands, doesn't look bad now based on the expectations and weight Southern carries as a standout football program. However, at the end of the season that may change as the offense continues to struggle to finish drives and be consistent.

USA is unlikely to be ranked based on the fact that they can't win conference games. Whether this is a case of conference coaching staff's having familiarity with USA or it is self-inflicted, only USA fan's are likely to be able to tell.

(10-12-2016 01:35 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 06:47 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 06:32 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 06:31 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 05:29 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  I think USA and APP would. South has wins over MSU and a ranked SDSU. That would count for something in the eyes of pollsters. APP is regarded as a pretty good team having gone toe to toe with #9 TENN early in the year.

Yes, but after we beat South Alabama, they'll be 3-3 heading into that game. That and Mississippi State is pretty terrible this season.

Confident of your game are you?

No, I'm just confused how South Alabama's 2 wins in OOC play are going to overcome the near loss to Nichols, and the two bad SBC losses they have. Especially enough to give Troy about 74 more points, when it's pretty clear one or two voters had them in their poll this week...max

The NMSU loss won't look so bad at the end of the season based on the way they have been playing as of late. The Southern loss, as it stands, doesn't look bad now based on the expectations and weight Southern carries as a standout football program. However, at the end of the season that may change as the offense continues to struggle to finish drives and be consistent.

USA is unlikely to be ranked based on the fact that they can't win conference games. Whether this is a case of conference coaching staff's having familiarity with USA or it is self-inflicted, only USA fan's are likely to be able to tell.

Jags haven't faced NMSU yet. Their other loss was to the Cajuns.

(10-12-2016 02:02 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-12-2016 01:35 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 06:47 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 06:32 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 06:31 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Yes, but after we beat South Alabama, they'll be 3-3 heading into that game. That and Mississippi State is pretty terrible this season.

Confident of your game are you?

No, I'm just confused how South Alabama's 2 wins in OOC play are going to overcome the near loss to Nichols, and the two bad SBC losses they have. Especially enough to give Troy about 74 more points, when it's pretty clear one or two voters had them in their poll this week...max

The NMSU loss won't look so bad at the end of the season based on the way they have been playing as of late. The Southern loss, as it stands, doesn't look bad now based on the expectations and weight Southern carries as a standout football program. However, at the end of the season that may change as the offense continues to struggle to finish drives and be consistent.

USA is unlikely to be ranked based on the fact that they can't win conference games. Whether this is a case of conference coaching staff's having familiarity with USA or it is self-inflicted, only USA fan's are likely to be able to tell.

Jags haven't faced NMSU yet. Their other loss was to the Cajuns.

I stand corrected. The same issue still stands. ULL hasn't been as bad as their record indicates. Their one true loss (as if the other's don't actually count) is to Boise State and that would likely happen to any team in the Sun Belt as it stands now. The other two losses to what seem to be middle of the road G5 teams in overtime don't seem so bad considering that with those two games being switched, they would be 4-1.

USA simply can't get out of their own way and without the time or motivation to gather information and watch USA games from the past two seasons, I'd hypothesize that their issues stem from an inability to overcome the familiarity other coaching staff's may have with their system.

(10-12-2016 02:06 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-12-2016 02:02 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-12-2016 01:35 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 06:47 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 06:32 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Confident of your game are you?

No, I'm just confused how South Alabama's 2 wins in OOC play are going to overcome the near loss to Nichols, and the two bad SBC losses they have. Especially enough to give Troy about 74 more points, when it's pretty clear one or two voters had them in their poll this week...max

The NMSU loss won't look so bad at the end of the season based on the way they have been playing as of late. The Southern loss, as it stands, doesn't look bad now based on the expectations and weight Southern carries as a standout football program. However, at the end of the season that may change as the offense continues to struggle to finish drives and be consistent.

USA is unlikely to be ranked based on the fact that they can't win conference games. Whether this is a case of conference coaching staff's having familiarity with USA or it is self-inflicted, only USA fan's are likely to be able to tell.

Jags haven't faced NMSU yet. Their other loss was to the Cajuns.

I stand corrected. The same issue still stands. ULL hasn't been as bad as their record indicates. Their one true loss (as if the other's don't actually count) is to Boise State and that would likely happen to any team in the Sun Belt as it stands now. The other two losses to what seem to be middle of the road G5 teams in overtime don't seem so bad considering that with those two games being switched, they would be 4-1.

USA simply can't get out of their own way and without the time or motivation to gather information and watch USA games from the past two seasons, I'd hypothesize that their issues stem from an inability to overcome the familiarity other coaching staff's may have with their system.

How does the Cajuns loss to NMSU not count?

(10-12-2016 02:08 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-12-2016 02:06 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-12-2016 02:02 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-12-2016 01:35 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 06:47 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  No, I'm just confused how South Alabama's 2 wins in OOC play are going to overcome the near loss to Nichols, and the two bad SBC losses they have. Especially enough to give Troy about 74 more points, when it's pretty clear one or two voters had them in their poll this week...max

The NMSU loss won't look so bad at the end of the season based on the way they have been playing as of late. The Southern loss, as it stands, doesn't look bad now based on the expectations and weight Southern carries as a standout football program. However, at the end of the season that may change as the offense continues to struggle to finish drives and be consistent.

USA is unlikely to be ranked based on the fact that they can't win conference games. Whether this is a case of conference coaching staff's having familiarity with USA or it is self-inflicted, only USA fan's are likely to be able to tell.

Jags haven't faced NMSU yet. Their other loss was to the Cajuns.

I stand corrected. The same issue still stands. ULL hasn't been as bad as their record indicates. Their one true loss (as if the other's don't actually count) is to Boise State and that would likely happen to any team in the Sun Belt as it stands now. The other two losses to what seem to be middle of the road G5 teams in overtime don't seem so bad considering that with those two games being switched, they would be 4-1.

USA simply can't get out of their own way and without the time or motivation to gather information and watch USA games from the past two seasons, I'd hypothesize that their issues stem from an inability to overcome the familiarity other coaching staff's may have with their system.

How does the Cajuns loss to NMSU not count?

Another multiple OT loss to a team that they very well could and would beat more often than not. I'm not saying that it doesn't count, I'm saying that when digging deeper than 2-3 (1-1), you see that the team is not far from being 4-1 (2-0). That may not count for much this season but in regards to the topic of conversation, it isn't going to affect USA one way or the other.

USA could've been ranked by season's end with one conference loss to ULL or Southern, but they lost their chances of garnering anything other than votes in the coaches poll with their loss to both ULL and Southern especially considering the affect of a close game with Nichols and a loss to a team that failed to beat a team with an FCS loss.

(10-12-2016 02:19 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-12-2016 02:08 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-12-2016 02:06 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-12-2016 02:02 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-12-2016 01:35 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  The NMSU loss won't look so bad at the end of the season based on the way they have been playing as of late. The Southern loss, as it stands, doesn't look bad now based on the expectations and weight Southern carries as a standout football program. However, at the end of the season that may change as the offense continues to struggle to finish drives and be consistent.

USA is unlikely to be ranked based on the fact that they can't win conference games. Whether this is a case of conference coaching staff's having familiarity with USA or it is self-inflicted, only USA fan's are likely to be able to tell.

Jags haven't faced NMSU yet. Their other loss was to the Cajuns.

I stand corrected. The same issue still stands. ULL hasn't been as bad as their record indicates. Their one true loss (as if the other's don't actually count) is to Boise State and that would likely happen to any team in the Sun Belt as it stands now. The other two losses to what seem to be middle of the road G5 teams in overtime don't seem so bad considering that with those two games being switched, they would be 4-1.

USA simply can't get out of their own way and without the time or motivation to gather information and watch USA games from the past two seasons, I'd hypothesize that their issues stem from an inability to overcome the familiarity other coaching staff's may have with their system.

How does the Cajuns loss to NMSU not count?

Another multiple OT loss to a team that they very well could and would beat more often than not. I'm not saying that it doesn't count, I'm saying that when digging deeper than 2-3 (1-1), you see that the team is not far from being 4-1 (2-0). That may not count for much this season but in regards to the topic of conversation, it isn't going to affect USA one way or the other.

USA could've been ranked by season's end with one conference loss to ULL or Southern, but they lost their chances of garnering anything other than votes in the coaches poll with their loss to both ULL and Southern especially considering the affect of a close game with Nichols and a loss to a team that failed to beat a team with an FCS loss.

I think there would still be some voters whom, if they actually gave much consideration to the Nicholls score would also know they did pretty much the same to SEC East Division leader Georgia, too. None of this will matter anyway since USA would have to end the season 11-2 with an impressive bowl win.

If Troy and App were to have both win out in a fairly impressive fashion until they play on 11/12 and Troy won they would be in the top 30 for sure, and then crack the top 25 if they win out.

(10-12-2016 03:41 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(10-12-2016 02:19 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-12-2016 02:08 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-12-2016 02:06 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-12-2016 02:02 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Jags haven't faced NMSU yet. Their other loss was to the Cajuns.

I stand corrected. The same issue still stands. ULL hasn't been as bad as their record indicates. Their one true loss (as if the other's don't actually count) is to Boise State and that would likely happen to any team in the Sun Belt as it stands now. The other two losses to what seem to be middle of the road G5 teams in overtime don't seem so bad considering that with those two games being switched, they would be 4-1.

USA simply can't get out of their own way and without the time or motivation to gather information and watch USA games from the past two seasons, I'd hypothesize that their issues stem from an inability to overcome the familiarity other coaching staff's may have with their system.

How does the Cajuns loss to NMSU not count?

Another multiple OT loss to a team that they very well could and would beat more often than not. I'm not saying that it doesn't count, I'm saying that when digging deeper than 2-3 (1-1), you see that the team is not far from being 4-1 (2-0). That may not count for much this season but in regards to the topic of conversation, it isn't going to affect USA one way or the other.

USA could've been ranked by season's end with one conference loss to ULL or Southern, but they lost their chances of garnering anything other than votes in the coaches poll with their loss to both ULL and Southern especially considering the affect of a close game with Nichols and a loss to a team that failed to beat a team with an FCS loss.

I think there would still be some voters whom, if they actually gave much consideration to the Nicholls score would also know they did pretty much the same to SEC East Division leader Georgia, too. None of this will matter anyway since USA would have to end the season 11-2 with an impressive bowl win.

I agree with everything you said except for the fact that Georgia hasn't shown much this season either. It really doesn't matter that Nichols played well against Georgia and USA as USA still has two losses to mediocre G5 teams.

I think I should share this: http://www.andersonsports.com/football/ACF_frnk.html

Troy is 26th in this ranking.

(10-12-2016 04:52 PM)ChiefAgentQ Wrote:  I think I should share this: http://www.andersonsports.com/football/ACF_frnk.html

Troy is 26th in this ranking.

Weird how they came up with all that