Not sure how many picks Hansen has thrown but out of the 2 on Wednesday, at least one was tipped. He's a good accurate passer that will only get better. He has 2 more years left, so you'll see more of him.

(10-09-2016 04:32 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  Not sure how many picks Hansen has thrown but out of the 2 on Wednesday, at least one was tipped. He's a good accurate passer that will only get better. He has 2 more years left, so you'll see more of him.

IIRC 4 in the last 2 games.

I understand where AState is.
The coaches were wrong about the best use of the talent in the Spring and Fall camps and didn't really notice the issues initially, after all Toledo has dominated AState on the lines the last two years so it happening a third time didn't cause alarm. Auburn is a mid-pack SEC so again no alarm bells. Utah State, Voytik had two big turnovers early, Hansen came in and made it competitive, no big concern. It took UCA to show there big problems.

USA I've only seen bits and pieces don't have a feel for them. The Jags seem to me to be a team that desperately wants to run effectively to set up the pass but can't run very well but has an argument to be the best pass protecting OL in the league.

BYW....this is Homecoming for us. That should add a bit of incentive for our players.

(10-09-2016 04:32 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  Not sure how many picks Hansen has thrown but out of the 2 on Wednesday, at least one was tipped. He's a good accurate passer that will only get better. He has 2 more years left, so you'll see more of him.

Four. Two of them are on tipped balls. Another was a pass forced into coverage late in the game against UCA. The Fourth was just an unforced error.

I don't see us winning this one. We should have beaten them last year. Without Knighten, I would think we would have a better chance. I see us making a crucial mistake to give the game away.
At least AState has their first win out the way.

I like the fact that USA is up to a touchdown road underdog. Historically, USA does pretty well under this circumstance.

(10-10-2016 10:10 AM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  I don't see us winning this one. We should have beaten them last year. Without Knighten, I would think we would have a better chance. I see us making a crucial mistake to give the game away.
At least AState has their first win out the way.

As I've said often, I'm a fan of Joey, probably the most under-rated coach in the Belt.
AState's pass defense has been shakey. Easy to figure out what the plan will be.

(10-09-2016 06:43 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  I understand where AState is.
The coaches were wrong about the best use of the talent in the Spring and Fall camps and didn't really notice the issues initially, after all Toledo has dominated AState on the lines the last two years so it happening a third time didn't cause alarm. Auburn is a mid-pack SEC so again no alarm bells. Utah State, Voytik had two big turnovers early, Hansen came in and made it competitive, no big concern. It took UCA to show there big problems.

USA I've only seen bits and pieces don't have a feel for them. The Jags seem to me to be a team that desperately wants to run effectively to set up the pass but can't run very well but has an argument to be the best pass protecting OL in the league.

I respect your opinion but think you are really spinning the situation here. Problems were obvious starting with the Toledo game. If fans can see problems and many of us in the seats could, shouldn't the head coach see them as well? There have been just too many signals to ignore and I really can't understand how a head coach with Anderson's background could miss them. My only explanation for it is that he relied on his staff entirely too much and refused correction when it was badly needed. But that certainly does not excuse him for being AWOL from his team and duties as a head coach. Great head coaches have to coach over friendship at times and do whats best for the team. I don't think Anderson can do that and that is scary.

(10-12-2016 05:03 AM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  Great head coaches have to coach over friendship at times and do whats best for the team. I don't think Anderson can do that and that is scary.

He's only been a Head Coach for 2 1/2 seasons.

That's really not a large enough sample size to make that determination.

(10-12-2016 05:03 AM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(10-09-2016 06:43 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  I understand where AState is.
The coaches were wrong about the best use of the talent in the Spring and Fall camps and didn't really notice the issues initially, after all Toledo has dominated AState on the lines the last two years so it happening a third time didn't cause alarm. Auburn is a mid-pack SEC so again no alarm bells. Utah State, Voytik had two big turnovers early, Hansen came in and made it competitive, no big concern. It took UCA to show there big problems.

USA I've only seen bits and pieces don't have a feel for them. The Jags seem to me to be a team that desperately wants to run effectively to set up the pass but can't run very well but has an argument to be the best pass protecting OL in the league.

I respect your opinion but think you are really spinning the situation here. Problems were obvious starting with the Toledo game. If fans can see problems and many of us in the seats could, shouldn't the head coach see them as well? There have been just too many signals to ignore and I really can't understand how a head coach with Anderson's background could miss them. My only explanation for it is that he relied on his staff entirely too much and refused correction when it was badly needed. But that certainly does not excuse him for being AWOL from his team and duties as a head coach. Great head coaches have to coach over friendship at times and do whats best for the team. I don't think Anderson can do that and that is scary.

No spin. Seriously you read a single word I wrote after the first three games???????

If you think you are the smartest guys on the block, you are that much more susceptible to confirmation bias.

Look at the quotes after Toledo, Auburn, and Utah State. Not much about needing to adjust the plan and quite a bit about discipline and execution, in other words, the message from staff following those three losses centered around the idea that they (the coaches) were calling the right plays and had the right plans and what was preventing success was the players.

Now after UCA the quotes changed, it shifted to finding ways to put players in the best position to be able to succeed, talked about changing to fit this team rather than a cookie cutter approach.

Yeah you saw the problems. I saw the problems (and wrote a lot about them) but I don't think the coaches agreed until UCA shook them out of their belief they had been right the first three games.

The scuttlebutt I'm hearing is that the powers that be at A-State have decided that Blake Anderson needs a boss looking over his shoulder, otherwise he tends to avoid doing things he does not want to do. Think he now has a boss.

(10-12-2016 08:28 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(10-12-2016 05:03 AM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(10-09-2016 06:43 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  I understand where AState is.
The coaches were wrong about the best use of the talent in the Spring and Fall camps and didn't really notice the issues initially, after all Toledo has dominated AState on the lines the last two years so it happening a third time didn't cause alarm. Auburn is a mid-pack SEC so again no alarm bells. Utah State, Voytik had two big turnovers early, Hansen came in and made it competitive, no big concern. It took UCA to show there big problems.

USA I've only seen bits and pieces don't have a feel for them. The Jags seem to me to be a team that desperately wants to run effectively to set up the pass but can't run very well but has an argument to be the best pass protecting OL in the league.

I respect your opinion but think you are really spinning the situation here. Problems were obvious starting with the Toledo game. If fans can see problems and many of us in the seats could, shouldn't the head coach see them as well? There have been just too many signals to ignore and I really can't understand how a head coach with Anderson's background could miss them. My only explanation for it is that he relied on his staff entirely too much and refused correction when it was badly needed. But that certainly does not excuse him for being AWOL from his team and duties as a head coach. Great head coaches have to coach over friendship at times and do whats best for the team. I don't think Anderson can do that and that is scary.

No spin. Seriously you read a single word I wrote after the first three games???????

If you think you are the smartest guys on the block, you are that much more susceptible to confirmation bias.

Look at the quotes after Toledo, Auburn, and Utah State. Not much about needing to adjust the plan and quite a bit about discipline and execution, in other words, the message from staff following those three losses centered around the idea that they (the coaches) were calling the right plays and had the right plans and what was preventing success was the players.

Now after UCA the quotes changed, it shifted to finding ways to put players in the best position to be able to succeed, talked about changing to fit this team rather than a cookie cutter approach.

Yeah you saw the problems. I saw the problems (and wrote a thabout them) but I don't think the coaches agreed until UCA shook them out of their belief they had been right the first three games.

No, I'm not going back to previous threads. My remarks are in reference to your post here in which you were telling us how poor play was over looked because Toledo has man handled us before, how Auburn was Auburn etc. and only after UCA were changes made. And why this remark about 'smart' when you obviously believe you have the market cornered in that area. Is your opinion suppose to count more than mine, another point we disagree on.

(10-13-2016 07:00 AM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(10-12-2016 08:28 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(10-12-2016 05:03 AM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(10-09-2016 06:43 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  I understand where AState is.
The coaches were wrong about the best use of the talent in the Spring and Fall camps and didn't really notice the issues initially, after all Toledo has dominated AState on the lines the last two years so it happening a third time didn't cause alarm. Auburn is a mid-pack SEC so again no alarm bells. Utah State, Voytik had two big turnovers early, Hansen came in and made it competitive, no big concern. It took UCA to show there big problems.

USA I've only seen bits and pieces don't have a feel for them. The Jags seem to me to be a team that desperately wants to run effectively to set up the pass but can't run very well but has an argument to be the best pass protecting OL in the league.

I respect your opinion but think you are really spinning the situation here. Problems were obvious starting with the Toledo game. If fans can see problems and many of us in the seats could, shouldn't the head coach see them as well? There have been just too many signals to ignore and I really can't understand how a head coach with Anderson's background could miss them. My only explanation for it is that he relied on his staff entirely too much and refused correction when it was badly needed. But that certainly does not excuse him for being AWOL from his team and duties as a head coach. Great head coaches have to coach over friendship at times and do whats best for the team. I don't think Anderson can do that and that is scary.

No spin. Seriously you read a single word I wrote after the first three games???????

If you think you are the smartest guys on the block, you are that much more susceptible to confirmation bias.

Look at the quotes after Toledo, Auburn, and Utah State. Not much about needing to adjust the plan and quite a bit about discipline and execution, in other words, the message from staff following those three losses centered around the idea that they (the coaches) were calling the right plays and had the right plans and what was preventing success was the players.

Now after UCA the quotes changed, it shifted to finding ways to put players in the best position to be able to succeed, talked about changing to fit this team rather than a cookie cutter approach.

Yeah you saw the problems. I saw the problems (and wrote a thabout them) but I don't think the coaches agreed until UCA shook them out of their belief they had been right the first three games.

No, I'm not going back to previous threads. My remarks are in reference to your post here in which you were telling us how poor play was over looked because Toledo has man handled us before, how Auburn was Auburn etc. and only after UCA were changes made. And why this remark about 'smart' when you obviously believe you have the market cornered in that area. Is your opinion suppose to count more than mine, another point we disagree on.

Right now based on your reply, my opinion does count more than yours because your opinion isn't rooted in reality in fact your reply is damned lie about what I posted but that doesn't matter your post reveals your motivation. Personal dislike for me.

NEVER did I say that anyone outside the coaching staff pooh-poohed the results of the first three games.

Damnit just read Anderson, Faulkner and Cauthen quotes after games 1, 2, 3.

It was all about they were right and the players weren't doing their job.

No logical reader looks at what they said and reaches any conclusion other than the coaches believed they were smarter than anyone else and they had dismissed the results of Toledo because of the prior two games, they dismissed Auburn because SEC, and dismissed what happed in Logan because of the turnovers by Voytik and penalties.

It took the UCA game for the COACHES to catch on to what the fans were screaming about the first three games.

The coaches think they are some sort of football geniuses and games 1-3 they looked at the film believed they were right, they see a few mistakes and it confirms their bias. They are Bear Bryant and Nick Saban incarnate in NE Arkansas and the players are screwing everything up.

The UCA game slapped them in the face AND ONLY THEN did they address the glaring problems with the game plan.

Why me pointing that out pisses you off is beyond my capacity to understand.

(10-13-2016 08:34 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(10-13-2016 07:00 AM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(10-12-2016 08:28 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(10-12-2016 05:03 AM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(10-09-2016 06:43 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  I understand where AState is.
The coaches were wrong about the best use of the talent in the Spring and Fall camps and didn't really notice the issues initially, after all Toledo has dominated AState on the lines the last two years so it happening a third time didn't cause alarm. Auburn is a mid-pack SEC so again no alarm bells. Utah State, Voytik had two big turnovers early, Hansen came in and made it competitive, no big concern. It took UCA to show there big problems.

USA I've only seen bits and pieces don't have a feel for them. The Jags seem to me to be a team that desperately wants to run effectively to set up the pass but can't run very well but has an argument to be the best pass protecting OL in the league.

I respect your opinion but think you are really spinning the situation here. Problems were obvious starting with the Toledo game. If fans can see problems and many of us in the seats could, shouldn't the head coach see them as well? There have been just too many signals to ignore and I really can't understand how a head coach with Anderson's background could miss them. My only explanation for it is that he relied on his staff entirely too much and refused correction when it was badly needed. But that certainly does not excuse him for being AWOL from his team and duties as a head coach. Great head coaches have to coach over friendship at times and do whats best for the team. I don't think Anderson can do that and that is scary.

No spin. Seriously you read a single word I wrote after the first three games???????

If you think you are the smartest guys on the block, you are that much more susceptible to confirmation bias.

Look at the quotes after Toledo, Auburn, and Utah State. Not much about needing to adjust the plan and quite a bit about discipline and execution, in other words, the message from staff following those three losses centered around the idea that they (the coaches) were calling the right plays and had the right plans and what was preventing success was the players.

Now after UCA the quotes changed, it shifted to finding ways to put players in the best position to be able to succeed, talked about changing to fit this team rather than a cookie cutter approach.

Yeah you saw the problems. I saw the problems (and wrote a thabout them) but I don't think the coaches agreed until UCA shook them out of their belief they had been right the first three games.

No, I'm not going back to previous threads. My remarks are in reference to your post here in which you were telling us how poor play was over looked because Toledo has man handled us before, how Auburn was Auburn etc. and only after UCA were changes made. And why this remark about 'smart' when you obviously believe you have the market cornered in that area. Is your opinion suppose to count more than mine, another point we disagree on.

Right now based on your reply, my opinion does count more than yours because your opinion isn't rooted in reality in fact your reply is damned lie about what I posted but that doesn't matter your post reveals your motivation. Personal dislike for me.

NEVER did I say that anyone outside the coaching staff pooh-poohed the results of the first three games.

Damnit just read Anderson, Faulkner and Cauthen quotes after games 1, 2, 3.

It was all about they were right and the players weren't doing their job.

No logical reader looks at what they said and reaches any conclusion other than the coaches believed they were smarter than anyone else and they had dismissed the results of Toledo because of the prior two games, they dismissed Auburn because SEC, and dismissed what happed in Logan because of the turnovers by Voytik and penalties.

It took the UCA game for the COACHES to catch on to what the fans were screaming about the first three games.

The coaches think they are some sort of football geniuses and games 1-3 they looked at the film believed they were right, they see a few mistakes and it confirms their bias. They are Bear Bryant and Nick Saban incarnate in NE Arkansas and the players are screwing everything up.

The UCA game slapped them in the face AND ONLY THEN did they address the glaring problems with the game plan.

Why me pointing that out pisses you off is beyond my capacity to understand.

Similar story to what we had with Malzahn and Harsin. Newly pressed head coaches can be mighty stubborn.

I really feel South Alabama is ready for this game with the Red Wolves. Arkansas St. no doubt, is much, much better than their record indicates. The Jags, I believe, have two very capable quarterbacks that can move this team effectively. The Red Wolves shouldn't take this team lightly. If they do, then they're going to experience another loss in their collection. Looking for a hard faught game.

(10-13-2016 09:55 AM)JoeJag Wrote:  I really feel South Alabama is ready for this game with the Red Wolves. Arkansas St. no doubt, is much, much better than their record indicates. The Jags, I believe, have two very capable quarterbacks that can move this team effectively. The Red Wolves shouldn't take this team lightly. If they do, then they're going to experience another loss in their collection. Looking for a hard faught game.

If you take anyone lightly when you are 1-4 you deserve what happens next.

^^^^^^^^^^^What he said.^^^^^^^^^^^^

(10-13-2016 06:18 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  The scuttlebutt I'm hearing is that the powers that be at A-State have decided that Blake Anderson needs a boss looking over his shoulder, otherwise he tends to avoid doing things he does not want to do. Think he now has a boss.

Are you basing this off a single quote from Mohajir about watching film with Anderson until after 10pm the night after the UCA debacle?

(10-13-2016 02:17 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-13-2016 06:18 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  The scuttlebutt I'm hearing is that the powers that be at A-State have decided that Blake Anderson needs a boss looking over his shoulder, otherwise he tends to avoid doing things he does not want to do. Think he now has a boss.

Are you basing this off a single quote from Mohajir about watching film with Anderson until after 10pm the night after the UCA debacle?

Maybe SI has been hired to help out Anderson? That would make sense...