SI is amusing. Not a fan, no skin in the game, but over 2000 posts? I am a big fan of the program, have followed the team for 30 years, have followed this board board for 10, but I'm not even close to that many messages.

I will give SI a little credit in that he may have Anderson's coaching strategy pegged. Seems to me that his teams perform poorly against better or even talent, but do well against teams with less talent. The remaining question is whether his teams do have better talent and if that is enough to overcome all the mistakes and poor decisions.

(10-10-2016 06:05 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(10-09-2016 11:35 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  I totally agree.
I'm just wondering how/why he was selected as a 'expert' of football talent. Or even just able to evaluate talent.

I thought he was a track guy.

Again for the readers that are new here as I have stated many times i would not even know where to began to evaluate talent,and I know even less about coaching.

The company i contracted with to crunch some numbers is suppose to be the gold standard in that department, certainly not me.

I have watched film with some coaches of different players decades ago, but all the players looked good to me.

My comments about their coaching is taken from what their HC is saying.

The reason that A-State went into SBC play last year at 1-3, and this year at 0-4, has nothing to do with talent. They were the most talented team in the SBC last year, and are again this year, and that should again be clear as the season progresses this year, as it was last year.

Y'all can tell that to Troy this year, but they won't buy it.

(10-10-2016 08:54 AM)Rik Flair Wrote:  SI is amusing. Not a fan, no skin in the game, but over 2000 posts? I am a big fan of the program, have followed the team for 30 years, have followed this board board for 10, but I'm not even close to that many messages.

I will give SI a little credit in that he may have Anderson's coaching strategy pegged. Seems to me that his teams perform poorly against better or even talent, but do well against teams with less talent. The remaining question is whether his teams do have better talent and if that is enough to overcome all the mistakes and poor decisions.

He posts a lot on Memphis and CUSA boards too. Maybe others as well.

(10-10-2016 10:22 AM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  

(10-10-2016 08:54 AM)Rik Flair Wrote:  SI is amusing. Not a fan, no skin in the game, but over 2000 posts? I am a big fan of the program, have followed the team for 30 years, have followed this board board for 10, but I'm not even close to that many messages.

I will give SI a little credit in that he may have Anderson's coaching strategy pegged. Seems to me that his teams perform poorly against better or even talent, but do well against teams with less talent. The remaining question is whether his teams do have better talent and if that is enough to overcome all the mistakes and poor decisions.

He posts a lot on Memphis and CUSA boards too. Maybe others as well.

Got banned from CUSA for saying the SBC would surpass them in football, and mostly touted the SBC, especially the addition of GaSo, and AppSt on the other forums on this site.

I pretty much know what the folks on AStateNation, and the local media that covers them tell me when it comes to almost anything regarding their program.

In the past i did have "sources" within their program, but not for the last 2-3 years.

The only thing I know is that a company that contracted me to crunch some numbers has this A-State team with 9 win's +/-1, and the best roster of talent in the SBC. Last year 8 wins +/-1. They are suppose to be good at what they do.

Except for the fact I agreed to monitor a forum on another schools message board, and have enjoyed the banter with the GaSo posters here so looked forward to their game, I normally don't watch or follow collegefootball that close after I turn in my spreadsheet.

"I normally don't watch or follow college football that close after I turn in my spreadsheet."

(10-08-2016 10:27 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  Funny how this guy comes back... I feel for you stAte fans.

Comets and crazy posters...

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(10-10-2016 08:54 AM)Rik Flair Wrote:  SI is amusing. Not a fan, no skin in the game, but over 2000 posts? I am a big fan of the program, have followed the team for 30 years, have followed this board board for 10, but I'm not even close to that many messages.

I will give SI a little credit in that he may have Anderson's coaching strategy pegged. Seems to me that his teams perform poorly against better or even talent, but do well against teams with less talent. The remaining question is whether his teams do have better talent and if that is enough to overcome all the mistakes and poor decisions.

He obviously has some "skin in the game" but he ain't no fan. Just the opposite I believe.

Since this has sort of become a meta thread by SI, about SI, I'll say this...

I don't understand what all the hate is that's directed at him. I can't say I've ever interacted with SI, but from what I've seen, he's pretty much right on the money in what he claims and always has been.

Before the GS game, Anderson said he and his coordinators were changing course and focusing on a game plan that utilizes the players they have, and that they "had to give up a lot of plays they liked because it didn't fit the talent we have". Low and behold, we perform well against GS and look far, far better than we have all year. Anderson basically claimed and subsequently proved that it was the coaches fault we were playing like dogshite.

Sure, the "I was a talent scout numbers guy and don't really care, in a fan sense, if they win or lose" is rather... unique... but everything he's said tends to line up with reality in the end. He's been saying we're the most talented team in the SBC and, aside from a year we were plagued by injuries, we have been. Remove 2014 from the equation and we've lost 3 games in conference in 5 years, two of them to a team that's not even IN the SBC anymore.

(10-09-2016 07:54 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(10-08-2016 10:55 AM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  

(10-08-2016 10:09 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Like last year the key to another championship run.

The talent that prompted Anderson to say that Dallas was their goal is still there for the most part( losing Armond Weh Weh was a pretty big loss), and can overcome a lot of obstacles placed in front of the team by their HC.

QB play is again the key,and Justice Hansen is as talented as any recent QB, who simply need's PT, and is now getting it. He is surrounded by top-shelf skill players, and the OL has experience and is not without talent.

Defense is still fast, athletic, and aggressive and are not substantially more undisciplined than the others directed by their DC.

The other SBC teams seem to press a little when playing them, probably based on their recent success in the SBC.

Like last year, the answer is still yes, even in an improved SBC.

The answer will not be what you want versus Troy...they're through which the road to an SBC championship will run.

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What I want, the only game I was interested was the game against GaSo, because I wanted to see how GaSo's talent matched up against A-State, and as i expected it did not match up well at all and neither will any other SBC team, not even Troy.

I could care less if they win out or lose every game, just as long as their HC is not pointing the figure at their talent.

That they are 1-4, has nothing to do with their talent ( and their AD knows it, and is trying to help Anderson with the real problem) but everything to do with how their HC approaches football, period.

In the Jonseboro Sun today Anderson was quoted as saying,"I'd love to see this team play mistake free. If we can find that, that would be great because we haven't even come close in tapping into just how talented and how good this team can be because were so accident prone and mistake prone."

Fact is their talent meant they could play like dogs and compete with Utah State, or GaSo, who are not bad teams, so they don't have to play "mistake free" to compete with any team left on their schedule. Will have to play a little better to beat a couple maybe, but their talent is so good i don't know, might still win.

Like last year, IMO they have the talent to overcome even Blake Anderson, and that is saying a lot.

What is it with your talent fetish?

(10-10-2016 05:14 PM)Paraprosdokian Wrote:  Since this has sort of become a meta thread by SI, about SI, I'll say this...

I don't understand what all the hate is that's directed at him. I can't say I've ever interacted with SI, but from what I've seen, he's pretty much right on the money in what he claims and always has been.

Before the GS game, Anderson said he and his coordinators were changing course and focusing on a game plan that utilizes the players they have, and that they "had to give up a lot of plays they liked because it didn't fit the talent we have". Low and behold, we perform well against GS and look far, far better than we have all year. Anderson basically claimed and subsequently proved that it was the coaches fault we were playing like dogshite.

Sure, the "I was a talent scout numbers guy and don't really care, in a fan sense, if they win or lose" is rather... unique... but everything he's said tends to line up with reality in the end. He's been saying we're the most talented team in the SBC and, aside from a year we were plagued by injuries, we have been. Remove 2014 from the equation and we've lost 3 games in conference in 5 years, two of them to a team that's not even IN the SBC anymore.

As opposed to what?

Unfortunately for people like Seminole Indian and State fan's in general, coaching is a factor in football. You all are quick to jump off the wagon when losing in OOC games due to Blake Anderson's propensity to "tinker with his new toys" however once you get in conference and play "lesser" opponents such as Southern, you are all back immediately.

I give kudos to Chiefsfan and select others for showing up consistently. For them, it's about the game and understanding that there are far more factors at play than "talent" (which in my opinion is thrown around far too much as talent is relative).

Even Georgia Southern players subscribe to Seminole Indian's college football talent newsletter!

“We have no clue how they haven’t won a game yet,” Georgia Southern quarterback Favian Upshaw said. “They’re full of talent. They’re probably the most talented team in the league, honestly.”

(10-10-2016 07:00 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-10-2016 05:14 PM)Paraprosdokian Wrote:  Since this has sort of become a meta thread by SI, about SI, I'll say this...

I don't understand what all the hate is that's directed at him. I can't say I've ever interacted with SI, but from what I've seen, he's pretty much right on the money in what he claims and always has been.

Before the GS game, Anderson said he and his coordinators were changing course and focusing on a game plan that utilizes the players they have, and that they "had to give up a lot of plays they liked because it didn't fit the talent we have". Low and behold, we perform well against GS and look far, far better than we have all year. Anderson basically claimed and subsequently proved that it was the coaches fault we were playing like dogshite.

Sure, the "I was a talent scout numbers guy and don't really care, in a fan sense, if they win or lose" is rather... unique... but everything he's said tends to line up with reality in the end. He's been saying we're the most talented team in the SBC and, aside from a year we were plagued by injuries, we have been. Remove 2014 from the equation and we've lost 3 games in conference in 5 years, two of them to a team that's not even IN the SBC anymore.

As opposed to what?

Unfortunately for people like Seminole Indian and State fan's in general, coaching is a factor in football. You all are quick to jump off the wagon when losing in OOC games due to Blake Anderson's propensity to "tinker with his new toys" however once you get in conference and play "lesser" opponents such as Southern, you are all back immediately.

I give kudos to Chiefsfan and select others for showing up consistently. For them, it's about the game and understanding that there are far more factors at play than "talent" (which in my opinion is thrown around far too much as talent is relative).

As opposed to trying to force our players to run a scheme that didn't fit their talents, I suppose. It kind of pisses me off to hear, TBH.

Seminole is an odd duck and follows the beat of his own drum.
Don't agree with a lot of his comments but seriously he livens the place up.

Anyone who thinks AState fans aren't aware of the importance of coaching didn't spend any time on AState Nation during the losing streak. It was constant ranting about how the coaches had changed the blocking scheme on the offensive line and the odd play selection and the decision to ditch Justice as the starter after a good (not great Spring) in favor of a grad transfer who arrived for Fall camp then ditching the transfer after 2 1/4th games.

Also don't forget one of the legendary moments at AState was Harsin admitting after the USA game in 2013 that he had fired himself as the offensive playcaller and handed those duties over to Drinkwitz a Malzahn leftover (and currently OC at NC State).

We are very aware of the importance of hiring the right staff.

(10-10-2016 07:22 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  Even Georgia Southern players subscribe to Seminole Indian's college football talent newsletter!

“We have no clue how they haven’t won a game yet,” Georgia Southern quarterback Favian Upshaw said. “They’re full of talent. They’re probably the most talented team in the league, honestly.”

If Seminole Indian had his own College Football Newsletter, what would he name it?

Serious question.

(10-10-2016 09:47 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-10-2016 07:22 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  Even Georgia Southern players subscribe to Seminole Indian's college football talent newsletter!

“We have no clue how they haven’t won a game yet,” Georgia Southern quarterback Favian Upshaw said. “They’re full of talent. They’re probably the most talented team in the league, honestly.”

If Seminole Indian had his own College Football Newsletter, what would he name it?

Serious question.

Smoke Signals?

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(10-10-2016 08:22 PM)Paraprosdokian Wrote:  

(10-10-2016 07:00 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-10-2016 05:14 PM)Paraprosdokian Wrote:  Since this has sort of become a meta thread by SI, about SI, I'll say this...

I don't understand what all the hate is that's directed at him. I can't say I've ever interacted with SI, but from what I've seen, he's pretty much right on the money in what he claims and always has been.

Before the GS game, Anderson said he and his coordinators were changing course and focusing on a game plan that utilizes the players they have, and that they "had to give up a lot of plays they liked because it didn't fit the talent we have". Low and behold, we perform well against GS and look far, far better than we have all year. Anderson basically claimed and subsequently proved that it was the coaches fault we were playing like dogshite.

Sure, the "I was a talent scout numbers guy and don't really care, in a fan sense, if they win or lose" is rather... unique... but everything he's said tends to line up with reality in the end. He's been saying we're the most talented team in the SBC and, aside from a year we were plagued by injuries, we have been. Remove 2014 from the equation and we've lost 3 games in conference in 5 years, two of them to a team that's not even IN the SBC anymore.

As opposed to what?

Unfortunately for people like Seminole Indian and State fan's in general, coaching is a factor in football. You all are quick to jump off the wagon when losing in OOC games due to Blake Anderson's propensity to "tinker with his new toys" however once you get in conference and play "lesser" opponents such as Southern, you are all back immediately.

I give kudos to Chiefsfan and select others for showing up consistently. For them, it's about the game and understanding that there are far more factors at play than "talent" (which in my opinion is thrown around far too much as talent is relative).

As opposed to trying to force our players to run a scheme that didn't fit their talents, I suppose. It kind of pisses me off to hear, TBH.

I read the same article in the Jonesboro SUN regarding Anderson's comments on the changes he and his staff were making to better fit the players talents along with the other staff changes. He was actually bragging about the staff being "courageous" enough and smart enough to make the changes. His comments were perfect proof that he has been wrong for months regarding his team. It was really damning of his coaching skills and those of his staff. This ASU team has been greatly underserved by Anderson and deserves much better. SI's question is right on target.

(10-10-2016 09:47 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-10-2016 07:22 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  Even Georgia Southern players subscribe to Seminole Indian's college football talent newsletter!

“We have no clue how they haven’t won a game yet,” Georgia Southern quarterback Favian Upshaw said. “They’re full of talent. They’re probably the most talented team in the league, honestly.”

If Seminole Indian had his own College Football Newsletter, what would he name it?

Serious question.

How about: Vague Talent Discussion, No Ranking Allowed

Anderson has been hands off and allowed assistants to implement things our team isn't that good at. Clearly.

But if we were so talented then we would have some better stats despite a bad scheme. We'd have more 3rd down conversions. We'd have less turnovers. We'd have more individual highlights. We'd have more NFL draft picks.

SI's schtick is tiresome.



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(10-11-2016 02:17 AM)panama Wrote:  

(10-10-2016 09:47 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-10-2016 07:22 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  Even Georgia Southern players subscribe to Seminole Indian's college football talent newsletter!

“We have no clue how they haven’t won a game yet,” Georgia Southern quarterback Favian Upshaw said. “They’re full of talent. They’re probably the most talented team in the league, honestly.”

If Seminole Indian had his own College Football Newsletter, what would he name it?

Serious question.

Smoke Signals?

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Blowing Smoke Talent Report - BSTR

Seminole Indian is quite the antagonist. He gets people riled up at Arkansas State fans and they haven't even done anything. I've taken the bait many times, I've learned my lesson and now I find it humorous.