(09-22-2016 09:45 AM)SubGod22 Wrote: The GOP has been dying a slow death for years. Win or lose, that won't change. The only reason Trump even has a slight chance is because Clinton carries so much baggage. The only reason Clinton has a chance is because the GOP is running Trump.
Two of the worst possible candidates in history. Thankfully, I don't have to vote for either of them.
Funny. The GOP probably has more governors and state legislatures than any time in their history.
(09-22-2016 09:45 AM)SubGod22 Wrote: The GOP has been dying a slow death for years. Win or lose, that won't change. The only reason Trump even has a slight chance is because Clinton carries so much baggage. The only reason Clinton has a chance is because the GOP is running Trump.
Two of the worst possible candidates in history. Thankfully, I don't have to vote for either of them.
Funny. The GOP probably has more governors and state legislatures than any time in their history.
(09-22-2016 09:45 AM)SubGod22 Wrote: The GOP has been dying a slow death for years. Win or lose, that won't change. The only reason Trump even has a slight chance is because Clinton carries so much baggage. The only reason Clinton has a chance is because the GOP is running Trump.
Two of the worst possible candidates in history. Thankfully, I don't have to vote for either of them.
Funny. The GOP probably has more governors and state legislatures than any time in their history.
Gerrymandering.
You can't gerrymander states.
He's a teacher. Let that sink in.
He also frequents a political site where we try like hell to educate him.
(09-22-2016 08:04 AM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote: Every year, I am in college, the term college educated means less and less aware of critical thinking. My one English class yesterday was a bashing of Thanksgiving and the idea that the Native Americans were completely innocent of any bloodshed and that the colonists were all killers.
LOL what a joke. you basically are pissy that revisionist history is dying out.
So the many Native Americans tribes who exterminated other tribes didn't exist?
The Indian braves who would take babies and smash their heads against a tree didn't exist?
The use of torture by Native Americans didn't happen?
Neither side weren't good by an objective standpoint. It was a conflict filled with nuance. I understand that. Do you?
(09-22-2016 09:45 AM)SubGod22 Wrote: The GOP has been dying a slow death for years. Win or lose, that won't change. The only reason Trump even has a slight chance is because Clinton carries so much baggage. The only reason Clinton has a chance is because the GOP is running Trump.
Two of the worst possible candidates in history. Thankfully, I don't have to vote for either of them.
Funny. The GOP probably has more governors and state legislatures than any time in their history.
Gerrymandering.
Trying to figure out how you gerrymander state lines to elect governors.
(09-22-2016 09:45 AM)SubGod22 Wrote: The GOP has been dying a slow death for years. Win or lose, that won't change. The only reason Trump even has a slight chance is because Clinton carries so much baggage. The only reason Clinton has a chance is because the GOP is running Trump.
Two of the worst possible candidates in history. Thankfully, I don't have to vote for either of them.
Funny. The GOP probably has more governors and state legislatures than any time in their history.
Gerrymandering.
You do realize that the only reason there are any dim members of congress from the South is because of gerrymandering right? I mean you don't think that people as ignorant as this:
could actually win an election in a district where they actually stood a chance of facing opposition do you?
Donald Trump is their nominee.... has the GOP really not reached worst case scenario?
As a social liberal and economic / foreign policy pragmatist I'd love to see a republican party principal on fiscal conservatism, reasonable on social issues and losing the hateful racist, homophobic baggage. I'd love to see real fights on regulation and tax reform, and entitlements. Instead we get a party hunkered down on Isolationism, high tariffs (anti-free trade), building a wall when more Mexicans are leaving than coming and rhetoric on how dangerous the country is when crime continues to be down across the board. There has never been a nominee with less knowledge of the issues and the best and brightest in the party refuse to work for Trump so he can't even surround himself with competence.
If the battles you care about are fiscal responsibility, free trade and reigning in government, I'm pretty sure you couldn't do worse as a republican than Donald Trump as the nominee.
(This post was last modified: 09-22-2016 02:39 PM by bearcatmark.)
(09-22-2016 02:39 PM)bearcatmark Wrote: Donald Trump is their nominee.... has the GOP really not reached worst case scenario?
As a social liberal and economic / foreign policy pragmatist I'd love to see a republican party principal on fiscal conservatism, reasonable on social issues and losing the hateful racist, homophobic baggage. I'd love to see real fights on regulation and tax reform, and entitlements. Instead we get a party hunkered down on Isolationism, high tariffs (anti-free trade), building a wall when more Mexicans are leaving than coming and rhetoric on how dangerous the country is when crime continues to be down across the board. There has never been a nominee with less knowledge of the issues and the best and brightest in the party refuse to work for Trump so he can't even surround himself with competence.
If the battles you care about are fiscal responsibility, free trade and reigning in government, I'm pretty sure you couldn't do worse as a republican than Donald Trump as the nominee.
As a social moderate and fiscal conservative advocate of a balanced budget and smaller government, who favors a strong defense and a non-interventionist (not isolationist) foreign policy, I tend to agree.
(09-22-2016 08:01 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: Trump loses but clearly outperforms Romney and McCain. Trumpism is still alive and well and the Tea Party becomes a footnote in History. Trump stole the GOP's base. I was reading this morning that Trump is down 12 points in college educated whites. A demo that the GOP relies on to win presidential elections. Romney was +7 with this group in 2012. How does the GOP recover? Trump has killed the party.
Worst case for the Republicans seems it is just really hard to get that damn smile off of our faces with all of this #winning going on. It really is a burden, but we are happy to accept it.
(09-22-2016 08:01 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: Trump loses but clearly outperforms Romney and McCain. Trumpism is still alive and well and the Tea Party becomes a footnote in History. Trump stole the GOP's base. I was reading this morning that Trump is down 12 points in college educated whites. A demo that the GOP relies on to win presidential elections. Romney was +7 with this group in 2012. How does the GOP recover? Trump has killed the party.
Worst case for the Republicans seems it is just really hard to get that damn smile off of our faces with all of this #winning going on. It really is a burden, but we are happy to accept it.
You know, that's true. Now, when my neighbor who supported Killary big time drives by my house I wave at her with a big smile on my face and she scowls at me thinking that I'm making fun of her. Sad…tsk.
I am, sort of but that's no reason for her to hate me. Right?
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What is the worst case scenario for the GOP?
