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08-11-2016 09:58 PM
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I'm not sold either way that it's a good idea. I see positives and negatives for both sides. Tough call.
08-11-2016 11:59 PM
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Well I think it's a good thing. Removes a barrier/excuse recruits would have for not coming here.

In the grand scheme of things its really not a lot. Basketball players will get $ 250 a month per semester.
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08-12-2016 07:27 AM
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If you want to play with the big boys, you've got to compete with the big boys. Not a net gain, but at least not a net loss.
08-12-2016 11:15 AM
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I understand Title IX and all, but seriously, Nationally Competitive in Women's basketball. That's a publicity joke right? I'm sure you could find plenty of other championship women's programs that would recruit better National level players with that stipend.
08-13-2016 09:29 PM
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Can we not pay the women, and pay the Diamond Hawks instead?
08-13-2016 10:27 PM
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You're such a sexist
08-13-2016 10:31 PM
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Like it or not, both basketball programs are fully funded and thus have to be treated the same. I'll withhold my other opinions on the program.

I fully agree we need the stipend for baseball too. And we need that program to, finally, be fully funded. I'm starting to wonder if some of us here, me included, can start a movement of sorts to make that happen. Any thoughts on first steps?
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Yeah, my thought on the matter was since we are using the idea of national prominence and competition, our baseball team has been doing so longer and sustaining it. I won't denigrate any of our programs but baseball should be getting this too if it's truly to sustain national competitive levels of athletes.
08-14-2016 10:34 PM
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This is a situation if you do it can be bad and if you do not it can be bad. As for funding if for multiple sports it depends on your budget. Just for basketball alone you are putting out 52000 dollars a year. For every male team you do this for you have to comply with title IX and do it for an equal number of female athletes. Not many small schools have the budget to find multiple sports with a stipend. Basketball gives you the best return on dollars spent so it makes sense to start with basketball. Is it fair to all ths other athlete in your school. Not in my thoughts but life is not always faif
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What does fully funded in baseball mean?
08-15-2016 09:48 AM
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(08-15-2016 09:48 AM)Alpha Hawk Wrote:  What does fully funded in baseball mean?

It's a recurring dollar figure that covers both in-state and out-of-state players. Right now there's an in-state exemption but not out of state, so we can't really recruit outside of NC like we'd like to. And that's a problem, given how competitive it is to steal NC talent from the likes of UNC, NC State, and ECU.

In order to become fully funded, we would need to take the money needed for one student's out of state tuition, multiply it by 11.7, and that's the amount needed. By my figures it's around $325,000 needed per year. And that total needed would be a reoccurring annual amount.
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(08-15-2016 07:16 AM)swampcougar1 Wrote:  This is a situation if you do it can be bad and if you do not it can be bad. As for funding if for multiple sports it depends on your budget. Just for basketball alone you are putting out 52000 dollars a year. For every male team you do this for you have to comply with title IX and do it for an equal number of female athletes. Not many small schools have the budget to find multiple sports with a stipend. Basketball gives you the best return on dollars spent so it makes sense to start with basketball. Is it fair to all ths other athlete in your school. Not in my thoughts but life is not always faif

good point

now that we have basetball, we should be working towards getting baseball the money they deserve, even if that means softball gets extra money.
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Nation asked about first steps to fully funding baseball. A good start would be gettinng in on the Seroka challenge. The challenge gets fans to sign up to donate for each run and/or homerun that the Hawks produce over the year. The money goes to baseball scholarships.

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08-16-2016 09:36 AM
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Baseball needs better facilities to compete for recruits and the indoor hitting building would be a great first step. I don't think you have to have what CCU has but anything is better than nothing. When it rains or is really cold these guys can't practice at UNCW-they should have rented a place years ago. The stadium is not on a par with most D1 baseball stadiums that I have seen in this area and is basically a overgrown high school field. They would be hard pressed to ever get a super regional at home with the junk they have there now. At least now they don't have to dress in cars for the game or practice.
08-17-2016 07:50 AM
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Mullet is actually spot on this time around. Upgrading the facilities is really the very first step. And luckily I'm hearing that the Chancellor is actually going to get directly involved in that process. Also a new Seahawk Club director is coming on board Aug 22, so sending concerns that way can't hurt either.
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Agreed. That baseball stadium area has more untapped potential than any other athletic facilities on campus and it shouldn't have taken them this long to start making changes.
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Since the state of NC will not allow athletics to utilize state funds(beyond the AD salary), we are at a disadvantage against Coastal because South Carolina does allow it.
Best case scenario for UNCW is if they were to share a stadium with a minor league team in Wilmington.
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(08-21-2016 02:40 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Since the state of NC will not allow athletics to utilize state funds(beyond the AD salary), we are at a disadvantage against Coastal because South Carolina does allow it.
Best case scenario for UNCW is if they were to share a stadium with a minor league team in Wilmington.
True about state funds. That has put us behind the eight ball a lot (that's the reason there are classrooms in Trask). Two problems with working with a minor league team - on campus means no alcohol sales for a minor league team - off campus means not much student support. We need to keep playing on campus. If the alcohol issue could be taken care of it could be a good partnership. Not likely to happen though.

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Apparently there is an area on campus that can be used for a new stadium to share with a minor league team and be able to sell beer. I hear it's all in the early stages, but very promising.
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