change your settings hoss. Only 7 pages on mine.

(08-02-2016 12:02 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  change your settings hoss. Only 7 pages on mine.

Does that reduce the number of posts, or do you just have to read them with a magnifying glass?

no, it just has 50 posts per page, instead of 10 or whatever. You just have to scroll down longer before getting to the end of the page.

(08-02-2016 11:49 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  It's possible, I don't know. But the drastic change in membership likely affected whatever marketing revenue there was.

I thought we were talking about the drizzling shyt of a contract they have now.

Here's the 990 from 2013 stating @ $10.4 in tv and marketing:

http://990s.foundationcenter.org/990_pdf...06_990.pdf

ODU AD also confirmed the tv deal got cut with defections. It sounds likes he suggests all the way to $6M @ 4min mark.

https://soundcloud.com/espnradio94-1/woo...-16#t=0:00

(08-02-2016 02:36 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 10:57 AM)MickMack Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 10:51 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 10:48 AM)upstater1 Wrote:  If the AAC loses 2, the contract is null and void.

No it isn't. It "can" be renegotiated, but doesn't mean it will be. Most feel it won't be, as there would only (probably) be two years left on the contract anyway when the changes were completed, and the contract is so cheap, it would not be worth it to change it. Also, this scenario only has them losing one, so it is a non issue.

Group A: UC, UConn, Houston, Temple
Group B: Everyone else.

If 2 Group A programs leave, it can be terminated.
If 1 Group A program and 1 Group B program leaves, it can be terminated.
If 2 Group B programs leave, it can be renegotiated.

Right, but "can" doesn't mean "will". Those clauses leave it up to ESPN. And they may decide not to invoke them.

Jeez. For the second time today, I'm not debating the "can" versus "will" language, I'm reinforcing it. I thought it would be helpful to spell out the full clause, that's all.

(08-02-2016 02:42 PM)MickMack Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 02:36 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 10:57 AM)MickMack Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 10:51 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 10:48 AM)upstater1 Wrote:  If the AAC loses 2, the contract is null and void.

No it isn't. It "can" be renegotiated, but doesn't mean it will be. Most feel it won't be, as there would only (probably) be two years left on the contract anyway when the changes were completed, and the contract is so cheap, it would not be worth it to change it. Also, this scenario only has them losing one, so it is a non issue.

Group A: UC, UConn, Houston, Temple
Group B: Everyone else.

If 2 Group A programs leave, it can be terminated.
If 1 Group A program and 1 Group B program leaves, it can be terminated.
If 2 Group B programs leave, it can be renegotiated.

Right, but "can" doesn't mean "will". Those clauses leave it up to ESPN. And they may decide not to invoke them.

Jeez. For the second time today, I'm not debating the "can" versus "will" language, I'm reinforcing it. I thought it would be helpful to spell out the full clause, that's all.

LET"S GET INTO A HUGE SHOUTING MATCH ABOUT OUR AREAS OF VEHEMENT AGREEMENT!!!!!

(08-02-2016 02:55 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 02:42 PM)MickMack Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 02:36 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 10:57 AM)MickMack Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 10:51 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  No it isn't. It "can" be renegotiated, but doesn't mean it will be. Most feel it won't be, as there would only (probably) be two years left on the contract anyway when the changes were completed, and the contract is so cheap, it would not be worth it to change it. Also, this scenario only has them losing one, so it is a non issue.

Group A: UC, UConn, Houston, Temple
Group B: Everyone else.

If 2 Group A programs leave, it can be terminated.
If 1 Group A program and 1 Group B program leaves, it can be terminated.
If 2 Group B programs leave, it can be renegotiated.

Right, but "can" doesn't mean "will". Those clauses leave it up to ESPN. And they may decide not to invoke them.

Jeez. For the second time today, I'm not debating the "can" versus "will" language, I'm reinforcing it. I thought it would be helpful to spell out the full clause, that's all.

LET"S GET INTO A HUGE SHOUTING MATCH ABOUT OUR AREAS OF VEHEMENT AGREEMENT!!!!!

I COULDN'T AGREE MORE!!!

(08-02-2016 02:58 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 02:55 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 02:42 PM)MickMack Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 02:36 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 10:57 AM)MickMack Wrote:  Group A: UC, UConn, Houston, Temple
Group B: Everyone else.

If 2 Group A programs leave, it can be terminated.
If 1 Group A program and 1 Group B program leaves, it can be terminated.
If 2 Group B programs leave, it can be renegotiated.

Right, but "can" doesn't mean "will". Those clauses leave it up to ESPN. And they may decide not to invoke them.

Jeez. For the second time today, I'm not debating the "can" versus "will" language, I'm reinforcing it. I thought it would be helpful to spell out the full clause, that's all.

LET"S GET INTO A HUGE SHOUTING MATCH ABOUT OUR AREAS OF VEHEMENT AGREEMENT!!!!!

I COULDN'T AGREE MORE!!!

Yes you could, you blankety blank!