For basketball all that matters is the number of bids to the NCAA tournament. Being 30 spots higher in RPI doesn't really mean much if both leagues are only spending one team to the dance.

Baseball w/ CCU yeah clearly SBC.

Football, unless the AAC takes UNCC and FIU, CUSA will take a hit.

I have been a proponent for the Cajuns leaving the Sun Belt for a long time... At one time it was to anything, now, I do not want to go the C-USA... I think the SBC is already better than C-USA in a lot of areas, now... If C-USA gets robbed of a couple top teams, we (the SBC) will be a vast better conference... If we hold together, I would expect all the C-USA teams will be clamoring to get into the SBC... If two of the following; Marshall, Rice, and/or Southern Miss leaves, I would think WKU and MTSU would want to come back...
Now, guys, if the AAC calls the Cajuns, were gone!!

(08-02-2016 10:28 AM)BankerCajun Wrote:  I have been a proponent for the Cajuns leaving the Sun Belt for a long time... At one time it was to anything, now, I do not want to go the C-USA... I think the SBC is already better than C-USA in a lot of areas, now... If C-USA gets robbed of a couple top teams, we (the SBC) will be a vast better conference... If we hold together, I would expect all the C-USA teams will be clamoring to get into the SBC... If two of the following; Marshall, Rice, and/or Southern Miss leaves, I would think WKU and MTSU would want to come back...
Now, guys, if the AAC calls the Cajuns, were gone!!

A reasonable position.

I hope we manage to remain untouched this time. I do like our current stable.

(08-01-2016 10:50 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 10:43 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 04:50 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 09:27 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 04:00 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  Yea. Not much motivation for GS here. Give up ASU and App to mix it up with with Marshall and USM in a championship game every few years. None of the others get the motor running enough to make the move. Honestly we're on to something nice as it is now. If I'm giving up a team in the Sun Belt the discussion goes something like this. No you can't have them. No you can't have them. No you can't have them. Marshall and USM are nice but we've moved the dial significantly like it is in a short time. The what if we stick together and continue to improve like it is scenario makes me happy. Marshall and USM and WKU and MTSU are welcome to come join us. No need to make snide comments. It was meant to be a compliment.

My gut feeling is USM and Marshall won't be around for the asking.

A whole lot can happen over the next couple of months. Any G5 conference member that isn't actively pursuing advancement for themselves right now is asleep at the wheel.

My gut feeling is that App St's administration has already been in contact with CUSA and possibly the AAC. I know for a fact that LA Tech and several other CUSA schools have been in contact with the AAC. That is how this process works.

The AAC is obviously a no brainer. Other than a more compact regional alignment CUSA offers no real advantage to the Sunbelt. Taking into consideration the money issues our previous AD left us in, the less per school CFP share in CUSA and the new TV contract which is virtually a dead heat with the Sunbelt, there's no way to justify paying the exit and entry fees. Besides, the Sunbelt is a better football league (esp w/o Marshall & USM), virtually the same in men's basketball, far superior in baseball and the women's programs are pretty much a wash.

Far superior in baseball huh? Better in football? Virtually the same in basketball?

Marginally yes, without Marshall and USM definitely.

(08-02-2016 11:28 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 10:50 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 10:43 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 04:50 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 09:27 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  My gut feeling is USM and Marshall won't be around for the asking.

A whole lot can happen over the next couple of months. Any G5 conference member that isn't actively pursuing advancement for themselves right now is asleep at the wheel.

My gut feeling is that App St's administration has already been in contact with CUSA and possibly the AAC. I know for a fact that LA Tech and several other CUSA schools have been in contact with the AAC. That is how this process works.

The AAC is obviously a no brainer. Other than a more compact regional alignment CUSA offers no real advantage to the Sunbelt. Taking into consideration the money issues our previous AD left us in, the less per school CFP share in CUSA and the new TV contract which is virtually a dead heat with the Sunbelt, there's no way to justify paying the exit and entry fees. Besides, the Sunbelt is a better football league (esp w/o Marshall & USM), virtually the same in men's basketball, far superior in baseball and the women's programs are pretty much a wash.

Far superior in baseball huh? Better in football? Virtually the same in basketball?

Marginally yes, without Marshall and USM definitely.

Comical......CUSA is 9-1 vs Sunbelt since current teams took effect.
4 times as many NFL draft picks, not to mentioned CUSA 4th place dominated the undefeated Sunbelt Champs last December. Zero evidence to back up your opinion

(08-02-2016 10:28 AM)BankerCajun Wrote:  I have been a proponent for the Cajuns leaving the Sun Belt for a long time... At one time it was to anything, now, I do not want to go the C-USA... I think the SBC is already better than C-USA in a lot of areas, now... If C-USA gets robbed of a couple top teams, we (the SBC) will be a vast better conference... If we hold together, I would expect all the C-USA teams will be clamoring to get into the SBC... If two of the following; Marshall, Rice, and/or Southern Miss leaves, I would think WKU and MTSU would want to come back...
Now, guys, if the AAC calls the Cajuns, were gone!!

Why in the world would WKU want to come back? What sense would that make for us? If CUSA loses 2 teams A. CUSA will either keep existing teams and not expand or B. pluck 2 teams from the Sun Belt....Always will be that way...Basketball will continue to blow Sun Belt out of the water despite one bad season....

(08-03-2016 12:32 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 10:28 AM)BankerCajun Wrote:  I have been a proponent for the Cajuns leaving the Sun Belt for a long time... At one time it was to anything, now, I do not want to go the C-USA... I think the SBC is already better than C-USA in a lot of areas, now... If C-USA gets robbed of a couple top teams, we (the SBC) will be a vast better conference... If we hold together, I would expect all the C-USA teams will be clamoring to get into the SBC... If two of the following; Marshall, Rice, and/or Southern Miss leaves, I would think WKU and MTSU would want to come back...
Now, guys, if the AAC calls the Cajuns, were gone!!

Why in the world would WKU want to come back? What sense would that make for us? If CUSA loses 2 teams A. CUSA will either remain at 10 or B. pluck 2 teams from the Sun Belt....Always will be that way...Basketball will continue to blow Sun Belt out of the water despite one bad season....

Never trust a guy that doesn't know how many teams are currently in his conference.

(08-03-2016 12:43 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(08-03-2016 12:32 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 10:28 AM)BankerCajun Wrote:  I have been a proponent for the Cajuns leaving the Sun Belt for a long time... At one time it was to anything, now, I do not want to go the C-USA... I think the SBC is already better than C-USA in a lot of areas, now... If C-USA gets robbed of a couple top teams, we (the SBC) will be a vast better conference... If we hold together, I would expect all the C-USA teams will be clamoring to get into the SBC... If two of the following; Marshall, Rice, and/or Southern Miss leaves, I would think WKU and MTSU would want to come back...
Now, guys, if the AAC calls the Cajuns, were gone!!

Why in the world would WKU want to come back? What sense would that make for us? If CUSA loses 2 teams A. CUSA will either remain at 10 or B. pluck 2 teams from the Sun Belt....Always will be that way...Basketball will continue to blow Sun Belt out of the water despite one bad season....

Never trust a guy that doesn't know how many teams are currently in his conference.

Booooom!

(08-03-2016 12:32 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 10:28 AM)BankerCajun Wrote:  I have been a proponent for the Cajuns leaving the Sun Belt for a long time... At one time it was to anything, now, I do not want to go the C-USA... I think the SBC is already better than C-USA in a lot of areas, now... If C-USA gets robbed of a couple top teams, we (the SBC) will be a vast better conference... If we hold together, I would expect all the C-USA teams will be clamoring to get into the SBC... If two of the following; Marshall, Rice, and/or Southern Miss leaves, I would think WKU and MTSU would want to come back...
Now, guys, if the AAC calls the Cajuns, were gone!!

Why in the world would WKU want to come back? What sense would that make for us? If CUSA loses 2 teams A. CUSA will either keep existing teams and not expand or B. pluck 2 teams from the Sun Belt....Always will be that way...Basketball will continue to blow Sun Belt out of the water despite one bad season....

It would make sense for CUSA to stay at 12, if you lose 2 teams (USM, Marshall/Rice). But lets say you do look to the SBC to back fill If you lose 1 or 3 teams. Who would jump? The consensus is (even by the CUSA commish) is that the only choices are TxSt and GaSt. Otherwise you are looking at JMU (Liberty is always an option ) I just don't really see the desire for any other SBC to make the move. Is that the conference WKU and MTSU want to be in? Think about it.

WKU and MTSU would want to come back if CUSA was raided heavily by AAC with a follow-on raid of Texas teams by MWC leaving CUSA pretty much untenable.

Chances of that happening...way low.

Chances of them coming back....way low.

Time that needs to be spent considering it...5 seconds.

There. Done.

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(08-02-2016 10:28 AM)BankerCajun Wrote:  I have been a proponent for the Cajuns leaving the Sun Belt for a long time... At one time it was to anything, now, I do not want to go the C-USA... I think the SBC is already better than C-USA in a lot of areas, now... If C-USA gets robbed of a couple top teams, we (the SBC) will be a vast better conference... If we hold together, I would expect all the C-USA teams will be clamoring to get into the SBC... If two of the following; Marshall, Rice, and/or Southern Miss leaves, I would think WKU and MTSU would want to come back...
Now, guys, if the AAC calls the Cajuns, were gone!!

Well we don't have to wonder about going anywhere. I know for a fact that our administration has not contacted any other conference during this latest realignment period. We are here for the long haul boys.

For some reason, they're still going to chase markets. So, IF they come a callin, it'll be GSU and TxSt. Let's not forget that may open the door for NMSt and possibly JMU. Or they could lose 3 and stand pat...we won't know until the start of the season when the big 12 makes a decision.

(08-03-2016 12:43 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(08-03-2016 12:32 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 10:28 AM)BankerCajun Wrote:  I have been a proponent for the Cajuns leaving the Sun Belt for a long time... At one time it was to anything, now, I do not want to go the C-USA... I think the SBC is already better than C-USA in a lot of areas, now... If C-USA gets robbed of a couple top teams, we (the SBC) will be a vast better conference... If we hold together, I would expect all the C-USA teams will be clamoring to get into the SBC... If two of the following; Marshall, Rice, and/or Southern Miss leaves, I would think WKU and MTSU would want to come back...
Now, guys, if the AAC calls the Cajuns, were gone!!

Why in the world would WKU want to come back? What sense would that make for us? If CUSA loses 2 teams A. CUSA will either remain at 10 or B. pluck 2 teams from the Sun Belt....Always will be that way...Basketball will continue to blow Sun Belt out of the water despite one bad season....

Never trust a guy that doesn't know how many teams are currently in his conference.

That fine WKU edumacation...

(08-03-2016 11:48 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 11:28 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 10:50 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 10:43 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 04:50 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  A whole lot can happen over the next couple of months. Any G5 conference member that isn't actively pursuing advancement for themselves right now is asleep at the wheel.

My gut feeling is that App St's administration has already been in contact with CUSA and possibly the AAC. I know for a fact that LA Tech and several other CUSA schools have been in contact with the AAC. That is how this process works.

The AAC is obviously a no brainer. Other than a more compact regional alignment CUSA offers no real advantage to the Sunbelt. Taking into consideration the money issues our previous AD left us in, the less per school CFP share in CUSA and the new TV contract which is virtually a dead heat with the Sunbelt, there's no way to justify paying the exit and entry fees. Besides, the Sunbelt is a better football league (esp w/o Marshall & USM), virtually the same in men's basketball, far superior in baseball and the women's programs are pretty much a wash.

Far superior in baseball huh? Better in football? Virtually the same in basketball?

Marginally yes, without Marshall and USM definitely.

Comical......CUSA is 9-1 vs Sunbelt since current teams took effect.
4 times as many NFL draft picks, not to mentioned CUSA 4th place dominated the undefeated Sunbelt Champs last December. Zero evidence to back up your opinion

Draft picks don't make good teams. You didn't dominate the game, you dominated the 4th qtr. I don't care about the past I'm looking at the future. App (& GA So) had nothing to do with the Sun Belt's past. BTW, how did that little FCS move-up in the mountains of the NC outdraw the big city Bulldogs last season while playing 2 Thursday night games and a Thanksgiving weekend game? How could thay also have 17 games with higher attendance than La Tech's largest ever home crowd? No wonder you guys have to cover big sections of empty seats with bilboards.

(08-03-2016 11:29 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-03-2016 11:48 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 11:28 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 10:50 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 10:43 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  The AAC is obviously a no brainer. Other than a more compact regional alignment CUSA offers no real advantage to the Sunbelt. Taking into consideration the money issues our previous AD left us in, the less per school CFP share in CUSA and the new TV contract which is virtually a dead heat with the Sunbelt, there's no way to justify paying the exit and entry fees. Besides, the Sunbelt is a better football league (esp w/o Marshall & USM), virtually the same in men's basketball, far superior in baseball and the women's programs are pretty much a wash.

Far superior in baseball huh? Better in football? Virtually the same in basketball?

Marginally yes, without Marshall and USM definitely.

Comical......CUSA is 9-1 vs Sunbelt since current teams took effect.
4 times as many NFL draft picks, not to mentioned CUSA 4th place dominated the undefeated Sunbelt Champs last December. Zero evidence to back up your opinion

Draft picks don't make good teams. You didn't dominate the game, you dominated the 4th qtr. I don't care about the past I'm looking at the future. App (& GA So) had nothing to do with the Sun Belt's past. BTW, how did that little FCS move-up in the mountains of the NC outdraw the big city Bulldogs last season while playing 2 Thursday night games and a Thanksgiving weekend game? How could thay also have 17 games with higher attendance than La Tech's largest ever home crowd? No wonder you guys have to cover big sections of empty seats with bilboards.

Yep, Like I said zero facts. 9-1 since ODU, Charlotte, App and GSU joined. Hell even winless Charlotte beat a Sunbel bowl team Tech alone had as many draft picks as the whole Sunbelt conference. Better on the field and better talent.

Big city Bulldogs, have you ever been to Ruston? There isnt much difference in population. Ruston and Boone are probably among the smallest towns in FBS

(08-03-2016 06:32 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  For some reason, they're still going to chase markets. So, IF they come a callin, it'll be GSU and TSU. Let's not forget that may open the door for NMSt and possibly JMU. Or they could lose 3 and stand pat...we won't know until the start of the season when the big 12 makes a decision.

who is tsu

(08-04-2016 07:39 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(08-03-2016 06:32 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  For some reason, they're still going to chase markets. So, IF they come a callin, it'll be GSU and TSU. Let's not forget that may open the door for NMSt and possibly JMU. Or they could lose 3 and stand pat...we won't know until the start of the season when the big 12 makes a decision.

who is tsu

TxSt if you are really wanting to know.

Also, They aren't going after them because of the markets (that is what they may say), but because those are the only 2 schools who would remotely consider a move to a gutted CUSA and that is simply to be with similar schools (Texas schools for one, and city/basketball schools for the other) Otherwise there is 0 reason for an SBC school to make the jump unless it is in some mass reshuffle.

oh and I would love for App or GS to play LaTech, just to shut their fans up.

LA Tech fans have to come over here and talk down to SBC schools to feel better about the status of their program, sad.

(08-04-2016 07:34 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(08-03-2016 11:29 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-03-2016 11:48 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 11:28 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 10:50 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Far superior in baseball huh? Better in football? Virtually the same in basketball?

Marginally yes, without Marshall and USM definitely.

Comical......CUSA is 9-1 vs Sunbelt since current teams took effect.
4 times as many NFL draft picks, not to mentioned CUSA 4th place dominated the undefeated Sunbelt Champs last December. Zero evidence to back up your opinion

Draft picks don't make good teams. You didn't dominate the game, you dominated the 4th qtr. I don't care about the past I'm looking at the future. App (& GA So) had nothing to do with the Sun Belt's past. BTW, how did that little FCS move-up in the mountains of the NC outdraw the big city Bulldogs last season while playing 2 Thursday night games and a Thanksgiving weekend game? How could thay also have 17 games with higher attendance than La Tech's largest ever home crowd? No wonder you guys have to cover big sections of empty seats with bilboards.

Yep, Like I said zero facts. 9-1 since ODU, Charlotte, App and GSU joined. Hell even winless Charlotte beat a Sunbel bowl team Tech alone had as many draft picks as the whole Sunbelt conference. Better on the field and better talent.

I have looked at the records for every Sun Belt member against the members of CUSA and what do I see. Congrats to LaTech, without your team the overall record between both conferences would almost be a dead heat.

(08-04-2016 08:04 AM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  

(08-04-2016 07:39 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(08-03-2016 06:32 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  For some reason, they're still going to chase markets. So, IF they come a callin, it'll be GSU and TSU. Let's not forget that may open the door for NMSt and possibly JMU. Or they could lose 3 and stand pat...we won't know until the start of the season when the big 12 makes a decision.

who is tsu

TxSt if you are really wanting to know.

Also, They aren't going after them because of the markets (that is what they may say), but because those are the only 2 schools who would remotely consider a move to a gutted CUSA and that is simply to be with similar schools (Texas schools for one, and city/basketball schools for the other) Otherwise there is 0 reason for an SBC school to make the jump unless it is in some mass reshuffle.

oh and I would love for App or GS to play LaTech, just to shut their fans up.

Just were I looked it up. LaTech has only played games against 4 of the present conference members and one of those teams it has only been 1 game.
LaTech has never played AppSt, GS, GSU, Troy, USA, or CC.

Record against CUSA of 4 out of the 6 Sun Belt members that LaTech has never played against.

AppSt 20-13
GS 15-9
Troy 49-29
USA 3-4