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RE: CUSA & Sun Belt merger?
(05-19-2017 10:40 PM)arkstfan Wrote: (05-19-2017 05:26 PM)Ourland Wrote: (05-19-2017 10:56 AM)arkstfan Wrote: (05-19-2017 10:04 AM)Ourland Wrote: (05-19-2017 09:41 AM)arkstfan Wrote: In a CUSA - Sun Belt mash-up, AState can gain one opponent our fans have any significant interest in. Southern Miss. There are a smattering of people who would be happy about Rice or La.Tech but if you aren't about 40 or older neither really means anything to you.
The closest CUSA is the same distance as the closest Sun Belt FBS.
That said, our AD is in favor of geographic realignment but I bet if you gave him a shot of truth serum his preferred shuffle would be one that creates a doughnut hole in the CUSA and Sun Belt maps. Hell if USM and UAB defected to Sun Belt I suspect he'd be ready to call it a day and not think about it again.
New rivalries aren't going to be developed overnight. It's going to take years. The old Rice alums hate CUSA and still think we rightfully belong with our old SWC rivals, even though they have left us far behind. Reorganizing into two 12-member divisions gives you stability in numbers and geography. Those schools have to play meaningful games against each other for years before they become rivalries, but you have to start somewhere. The worst thing that could happen is for things to stay exactly how they are now, or for several members to break away and form their own conference by themselves. I don't see how Arkansas State wouldn't benefit from playing Louisiana Tech, Southern Mississippi, Rice, UTSA, and North Texas. That gives Arkansas State access to all of the recruits and large media hubs it could possibly want. Not to mention, it's fans could drive to almost all of the road games. The annual basketball tournament would be amazing with so many members being in such close proximity to one another, especially if throw in UTA and Arkansas-Little Rock. That's the fans of 14 schools coming together for a tournament that's never more than 500 miles away.
If the tournament were in El Paso, San Antonio, or Houston it would be more than 500 miles from AState.
We are 298 miles from La.Tech, 304 from ULM, 308 from UAB, 309 from MTSU, 323 from WKU, 366 from Southern Miss, 435 from South Alabama, 447 from Troy and 480 to UL. Now the Texans. 465 to North Texas, 566 to Rice, 683 to Texas State, 720 to UTSA, 1080 to UTEP.
We are closer to Georgia State than we are North Texas, Rice, Texas State, UTSA, and UTEP.
Closer to UL than Rice, Texas State, UTSA, and UTEP
We are closer to App State and Georgia Southern than we are to Texas State, UTSA, and UTEP.
Coastal is 200 miles closer than UTEP.
If Arkansas State wants to be in a compact league and 11 schools were picked to join us in order of distance, we would be with:
La.Tech, ULM, UAB, MTSU, WKU, USM, USA, Troy, Georgia State, UNT, and UL. If we ditch one from either Lincoln Parish or Ouachita Parish, the replacement is Rice.
Out of the five Texas schools only one is in the 11 closest to Arkansas State.
So yep, we like looking east.
You can't have it all. You guys would be in a divion with most of the schools your closest to. If you want East, then you'll also have to visit Marshall, Old Dominion, Appalachian State, FIU, FAU, Coastal Carolina, and Georgia Southern. Those aren't within driving distance.
Not asking for all. Asking to not be worse off.
I see where you're coming from, but if a merger did happen, maybe ASU wouldn't be in a division with the Texas schools. You'd have to play two or three crossover games a year with us in football, but most of those are still within a 6-hour drive. Not impossible if you take Friday off. If not, Southwest offers really cheap flights to Houston, San Antonio, and El Paso, all big destination cities in Texas with lots to do. The basketball tournament would definitely be closer than El Paso or Birmingham, where they've usually been held for CUSA lately. Maybe the Frisco site works out and it stays there. Are you guys serious about basketball?
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