(07-29-2016 08:44 PM)Shonuff Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 08:31 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 08:18 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 04:26 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Does Louisiana finally get the opportunity to be a constant thorn in La Tech's side?

I don't know how you figure ULL would be a constant thorn in LA Tech's side. They never have been before, and I mean that in a nice way. We have a pretty decent rivalry. I mean, they can't hate us much more than they do, and I assure you that the feeling is mutual on our end.

Just having to deal with the every year in every sport.

I truly enjoy reading all the realignment threads. The only thing about them that makes me cringe is when people state that certain schools will 'block' other schools. These decisions are made by the conferences and their respective presidents.....and I doubt very much that things that bother posters on fan boards are ever part of that decision process.

No school can officially "block" any other school, but they can, and they do form voting alliances within their conference. For example, USM might ask LA Tech to vote against USA, and Tech, in turn, might ask USM to vote against ULM or ULL. It's easy to see where UTSA, Rice, and UNT might each be willing to trade us their no vote on ULL or ULM for our no vote on TX St.

That's the extent of "blocking" that goes on, and it is very real. It's all about protecting one's self interest, and everybody works hard every day to try to do that.

(07-29-2016 11:22 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 08:44 PM)Shonuff Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 08:31 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 08:18 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 04:26 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Does Louisiana finally get the opportunity to be a constant thorn in La Tech's side?

I don't know how you figure ULL would be a constant thorn in LA Tech's side. They never have been before, and I mean that in a nice way. We have a pretty decent rivalry. I mean, they can't hate us much more than they do, and I assure you that the feeling is mutual on our end.

Just having to deal with the every year in every sport.

I truly enjoy reading all the realignment threads. The only thing about them that makes me cringe is when people state that certain schools will 'block' other schools. These decisions are made by the conferences and their respective presidents.....and I doubt very much that things that bother posters on fan boards are ever part of that decision process.

You'd be surprised. Presidents who go against their athletic fan base and athletics donor's wishes often find all aspects of their jobs more difficult.

I don't know if that applies to the specific case mentioned. But its true in general.

Most top members of our athletic department are well aware of what is voiced here. Same with "King Karl" and his staff. Not saying they read every thread or even every post but they ALWAYS have an "airplane view from 30,000 feet" of what the pulse is on here and other SBC-related boards.

What weight they give to our discussions is questionable, however. Probably somewhere between 3 and 5 at the most.

(07-30-2016 12:58 AM)The4thOption Wrote:  Two things :

1: JMU could come into play if CUSA needs an even count.

2: On CFP MONEY, isn't it 1 million per team, per g5 conference UP TO 12 members? Or did that change?
I ask because in this thread, the OP was talking about splitting 10 million cfp money, twelve and 14 ways I believe. Wouldn't that be 12 million split 12 or 14 ways?

When Idaho and NMSU were dropped it came out that the G5 CFP money dropped to $10 million max - $1 million per team for up to 10.

(07-29-2016 08:03 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 06:27 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 04:26 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Does Louisiana finally get the opportunity to be a constant thorn in La Tech's side?

I think ULL's best move would be to let La Tech rot in CUSA, where they'll be stuck in a division with UTSA, UNT, UTEP, (probably Texas State), and UAB. No USM. No Marshall. No Rice. Some years they won't play MTSU or WKU. In those years, a conference schedule where every game could be a sub 100 team. That's going to be ugly. And that conference can probably kiss their P5 bowl game g'bye too.

Oh, and that conference will still be every bit as wide spread and expensive for their Olympic sports.

Oh, there will probably be LESS money as a result of it.

----

But ULL would still consider it. So would USA. The problem is the fact that if Rice and USM move from the West of CUSA, then that division is going to be a tough sell. Especially if they had to pay 4 million for it.

Does it make sense for the AAC to take Rice & USM along with Marshall? Taking away Cincy, Memphis and Houston leaves the AAC with UCF, USF, Tulane, Tulsa, SMU in the South / ECU, UConn, Temple and football only Navy in the North. Adding Rice or USM balances the south. but the north needs two. Adding both USM & Rice doesn't make a lot of sense considering USM would be sitting directly in the middle of the southern schools, but in the northern division.

Hmmm. Looks like ECU could use a travel partner.... So, That leaves one one other spot for a northern team looking for a home for its football program to make 6 in the north division. USM added to the south. You know the other teams I'm taking about.

But, here's the thing: I'm not convinced that the AAC loses three. I think the odd man out is Houston. BYU, CSU, Memphis, Cincinnati.

(07-30-2016 12:58 AM)The4thOption Wrote:  Two things :

1: JMU could come into play if CUSA needs an even count.

2: On CFP MONEY, isn't it 1 million per team, per g5 conference UP TO 12 members? Or did that change?
I ask because in this thread, the OP was talking about splitting 10 million cfp money, twelve and 14 ways I believe. Wouldn't that be 12 million split 12 or 14 ways?

I think CUSA only loses one team. Maybe two. There is no backfill. They could lose USM and ODU, which would be bad enough for that conference imho.

(07-30-2016 04:20 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 12:58 AM)The4thOption Wrote:  Two things :

1: JMU could come into play if CUSA needs an even count.

2: On CFP MONEY, isn't it 1 million per team, per g5 conference UP TO 12 members? Or did that change?
I ask because in this thread, the OP was talking about splitting 10 million cfp money, twelve and 14 ways I believe. Wouldn't that be 12 million split 12 or 14 ways?

When Idaho and NMSU were dropped it came out that the G5 CFP money dropped to $10 million max - $1 million per team for up to 10.

If the B12 takes houston and BYU, I think the AAC would pick Rice if they are market oriented or somiss if they want the school with the most competitive programs and history. cusa would ask the sbc school with the most perceived upside to them which would probably be stAte or the cajuns. the cajuns get them back into new orleans but they would have to get over that 3 La. teams backlash. stAte would be the safer choice just not the most marketable one.

(07-30-2016 12:58 AM)The4thOption Wrote:  Two things :

1: JMU could come into play if CUSA needs an even count.

2: On CFP MONEY, isn't it 1 million per team, per g5 conference UP TO 12 members? Or did that change?
I ask because in this thread, the OP was talking about splitting 10 million cfp money, twelve and 14 ways I believe. Wouldn't that be 12 million split 12 or 14 ways?

Ironic you mention that. A good friend who is very tight with some in the JMU administration is saying they have been told by CUSA they would get the call if that scenario fell into place. ODU is supposedly advocating for them. If true that tells me either everyone in the SB is content with the arrangement we have, or nobody can afford the entry/exit fees.

As a side note: Obviously the players and situation is different now, but our former AD was saying the same thing a few years back right after we announced our intentions to make the jump. Of course we all know Judy Rose at UNCC blocked our path.

(07-30-2016 07:00 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 08:03 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 06:27 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 04:26 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Does Louisiana finally get the opportunity to be a constant thorn in La Tech's side?

I think ULL's best move would be to let La Tech rot in CUSA, where they'll be stuck in a division with UTSA, UNT, UTEP, (probably Texas State), and UAB. No USM. No Marshall. No Rice. Some years they won't play MTSU or WKU. In those years, a conference schedule where every game could be a sub 100 team. That's going to be ugly. And that conference can probably kiss their P5 bowl game g'bye too.

Oh, and that conference will still be every bit as wide spread and expensive for their Olympic sports.

Oh, there will probably be LESS money as a result of it.

----

But ULL would still consider it. So would USA. The problem is the fact that if Rice and USM move from the West of CUSA, then that division is going to be a tough sell. Especially if they had to pay 4 million for it.

Does it make sense for the AAC to take Rice & USM along with Marshall? Taking away Cincy, Memphis and Houston leaves the AAC with UCF, USF, Tulane, Tulsa, SMU in the South / ECU, UConn, Temple and football only Navy in the North. Adding Rice or USM balances the south. but the north needs two. Adding both USM & Rice doesn't make a lot of sense considering USM would be sitting directly in the middle of the southern schools, but in the northern division.

Hmmm. Looks like ECU could use a travel partner.... So, That leaves one one other spot for a northern team looking for a home for its football program to make 6 in the north division. USM added to the south. You know the other teams I'm taking about.

But, here's the thing: I'm not convinced that the AAC loses three. I think the odd man out is Houston. BYU, CSU, Memphis, Cincinnati.

You're getting my drift.

I just don't see the Big 12 taking little brother Colorado State after losing the Buffs a few years back. Plus, Ft Colllins brings them nothing. There has been a public show of support for Houston by Big 12 coaches and there are still a lot of ties from the old SWC days.

(07-30-2016 07:26 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 12:58 AM)The4thOption Wrote:  Two things :

1: JMU could come into play if CUSA needs an even count.

2: On CFP MONEY, isn't it 1 million per team, per g5 conference UP TO 12 members? Or did that change?
I ask because in this thread, the OP was talking about splitting 10 million cfp money, twelve and 14 ways I believe. Wouldn't that be 12 million split 12 or 14 ways?

Ironic you mention that. A good friend who is very tight with some in the JMU administration is saying they have been told by CUSA they would get the call if that scenario fell into place. ODU is supposedly advocating for them. If true that tells me either everyone in the SB is content with the arrangement we have, or nobody can afford the entry/exit fees.

As a side note: Obviously the players and situation is different now, but our former AD was saying the same thing a few years back right after we announced our intentions to make the jump. Of course we all know Judy Rose at UNCC blocked our path.

Well if you read JMU's message board, you'd be led to believe they are first in line for a bid in the AAC. Lol.

I'll believe a JMU rumor when it actually happens. Those dudes are destined to play Stony Brook and Elon for eternity.

(07-30-2016 08:05 AM)ah59396 Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:26 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 12:58 AM)The4thOption Wrote:  Two things :

1: JMU could come into play if CUSA needs an even count.

2: On CFP MONEY, isn't it 1 million per team, per g5 conference UP TO 12 members? Or did that change?
I ask because in this thread, the OP was talking about splitting 10 million cfp money, twelve and 14 ways I believe. Wouldn't that be 12 million split 12 or 14 ways?

Ironic you mention that. A good friend who is very tight with some in the JMU administration is saying they have been told by CUSA they would get the call if that scenario fell into place. ODU is supposedly advocating for them. If true that tells me either everyone in the SB is content with the arrangement we have, or nobody can afford the entry/exit fees.

As a side note: Obviously the players and situation is different now, but our former AD was saying the same thing a few years back right after we announced our intentions to make the jump. Of course we all know Judy Rose at UNCC blocked our path.

Well if you read JMU's message board, you'd be led to believe they are first in line for a bid in the AAC. Lol.

I'll believe a JMU rumor when it actually happens. Those dudes are destined to play Stony Brook and Elon for eternity.

It is always amazing to me how people can take a few message board posts and use them to paint an entire fan base.

JMU would be in position for an AAC bid if they had moved to FBS a few years ago. Since we didn't make the move, we aren't in line for the AAC....not even close.

(07-29-2016 08:03 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 06:27 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 04:26 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Does Louisiana finally get the opportunity to be a constant thorn in La Tech's side?

I think ULL's best move would be to let La Tech rot in CUSA, where they'll be stuck in a division with UTSA, UNT, UTEP, (probably Texas State), and UAB. No USM. No Marshall. No Rice. Some years they won't play MTSU or WKU. In those years, a conference schedule where every game could be a sub 100 team. That's going to be ugly. And that conference can probably kiss their P5 bowl game g'bye too.

Oh, and that conference will still be every bit as wide spread and expensive for their Olympic sports.

Oh, there will probably be LESS money as a result of it.

----

But ULL would still consider it. So would USA. The problem is the fact that if Rice and USM move from the West of CUSA, then that division is going to be a tough sell. Especially if they had to pay 4 million for it.

Does it make sense for the AAC to take Rice & USM along with Marshall? Taking away Cincy, Memphis and Houston leaves the AAC with UCF, USF, Tulane, Tulsa, SMU in the South / ECU, UConn, Temple and football only Navy in the North. Adding Rice or USM balances the south. but the north needs two. Adding both USM & Rice doesn't make a lot of sense considering USM would be sitting directly in the middle of the southern schools, but in the northern division.

That scenario looks very plausible at this point. If the Big XII goes to 14, here are the scenarios

1) BYU plus 3 AAC teams. USM and Marshall are gone at that point. Rice is probably gone too. Its possible that NIU gets picked up from the AAC, but if they are taken rather than Marshall, then Marshall would probably crawl back to the MAC, hat in hand anyway.

2) BYU, Boise/Colorado State, UH, UC - AAC backfills with USM and Rice. MWC decides to stay at 12 and takes UTEP.

3) Either 1 or 2, but the MWC decides to go to 14 by poaching Texas teams. Every Texas CUSA team left behind would go. In that case, CUSA would lose 3 Texas teams, USM, and Marshall. This is the disaster scenario for CUSA. La Tech and whoever in Texas is left behind would be in a very bad situation. Every team in CUSA with options is looking for the exits.

Remember, this is in a Big XII to 14 scenario. In a Big XII to 12 scenario CUSA just probably loses 1 team, and can probably pick a team from us to get back to an even number.

---

In the past, CUSA could have made a preemptive strike to protect themselves. They could raid the Belt before they get poached. With 14 members, I'm not sure they can do that now as easily.

I'm pretty sure CUSA is concerned about scenarios 1, 2, or 3. I'm not sure they can do anything about it though. They could waive the entrance fee.

---

If USA, Ga Southern, App, ULL, and State stick together, and the Big XII goes to 14, we should pass CUSA in short order. And we just might be able to pick two teams off from them. But if we don't stick together, we could end up with another downgrade, losing 3 of our better programs and have to add more FCS move ups and partial members.

(07-30-2016 09:50 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 08:03 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 06:27 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 04:26 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Does Louisiana finally get the opportunity to be a constant thorn in La Tech's side?

I think ULL's best move would be to let La Tech rot in CUSA, where they'll be stuck in a division with UTSA, UNT, UTEP, (probably Texas State), and UAB. No USM. No Marshall. No Rice. Some years they won't play MTSU or WKU. In those years, a conference schedule where every game could be a sub 100 team. That's going to be ugly. And that conference can probably kiss their P5 bowl game g'bye too.

Oh, and that conference will still be every bit as wide spread and expensive for their Olympic sports.

Oh, there will probably be LESS money as a result of it.

----

But ULL would still consider it. So would USA. The problem is the fact that if Rice and USM move from the West of CUSA, then that division is going to be a tough sell. Especially if they had to pay 4 million for it.

Does it make sense for the AAC to take Rice & USM along with Marshall? Taking away Cincy, Memphis and Houston leaves the AAC with UCF, USF, Tulane, Tulsa, SMU in the South / ECU, UConn, Temple and football only Navy in the North. Adding Rice or USM balances the south. but the north needs two. Adding both USM & Rice doesn't make a lot of sense considering USM would be sitting directly in the middle of the southern schools, but in the northern division.

That scenario looks very plausible at this point. If the Big XII goes to 14, here are the scenarios

1) BYU plus 3 AAC teams. USM and Marshall are gone at that point. Rice is probably gone too. Its possible that NIU gets picked up from the AAC, but if they are taken rather than Marshall, then Marshall would probably crawl back to the MAC, hat in hand anyway.

2) BYU, Boise/Colorado State, UH, UC - AAC backfills with USM and Rice. MWC decides to stay at 12 and takes UTEP.

3) Either 1 or 2, but the MWC decides to go to 14 by poaching Texas teams. Every Texas CUSA team left behind would go. In that case, CUSA would lose 3 Texas teams, USM, and Marshall. This is the disaster scenario for CUSA. La Tech and whoever in Texas is left behind would be in a very bad situation. Every team in CUSA with options is looking for the exits.

Remember, this is in a Big XII to 14 scenario. In a Big XII to 12 scenario CUSA just probably loses 1 team, and can probably pick a team from us to get back to an even number.

---

In the past, CUSA could have made a preemptive strike to protect themselves. They could raid the Belt before they get poached. With 14 members, I'm not sure they can do that now as easily.

I'm pretty sure CUSA is concerned about scenarios 1, 2, or 3. I'm not sure they can do anything about it though. They could waive the entrance fee.

---

If USA, Ga Southern, App, ULL, and State stick together, and the Big XII goes to 14, we should pass CUSA in short order. And we just might be able to pick two teams off from them. But if we don't stick together, we could end up with another downgrade, losing 3 of our better programs and have to add more FCS move ups and partial members.

In scenario 3, and if UTEP is not taken, look for NMSU to get serious consideration to give UTEP a travel partner, allowing travel costs per game for oly sports to be more efficient.

(07-30-2016 11:23 AM)NotANewbie Wrote:  In scenario 3, and if UTEP is not taken, look for NMSU to get serious consideration to give UTEP a travel partner, allowing travel costs per game for oly sports to be more efficient.

Probably the best thing for NMSU as well if it works out that way.

(07-30-2016 11:23 AM)NotANewbie Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 09:50 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 08:03 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 06:27 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 04:26 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Does Louisiana finally get the opportunity to be a constant thorn in La Tech's side?

I think ULL's best move would be to let La Tech rot in CUSA, where they'll be stuck in a division with UTSA, UNT, UTEP, (probably Texas State), and UAB. No USM. No Marshall. No Rice. Some years they won't play MTSU or WKU. In those years, a conference schedule where every game could be a sub 100 team. That's going to be ugly. And that conference can probably kiss their P5 bowl game g'bye too.

Oh, and that conference will still be every bit as wide spread and expensive for their Olympic sports.

Oh, there will probably be LESS money as a result of it.

----

But ULL would still consider it. So would USA. The problem is the fact that if Rice and USM move from the West of CUSA, then that division is going to be a tough sell. Especially if they had to pay 4 million for it.

Does it make sense for the AAC to take Rice & USM along with Marshall? Taking away Cincy, Memphis and Houston leaves the AAC with UCF, USF, Tulane, Tulsa, SMU in the South / ECU, UConn, Temple and football only Navy in the North. Adding Rice or USM balances the south. but the north needs two. Adding both USM & Rice doesn't make a lot of sense considering USM would be sitting directly in the middle of the southern schools, but in the northern division.

That scenario looks very plausible at this point. If the Big XII goes to 14, here are the scenarios

1) BYU plus 3 AAC teams. USM and Marshall are gone at that point. Rice is probably gone too. Its possible that NIU gets picked up from the AAC, but if they are taken rather than Marshall, then Marshall would probably crawl back to the MAC, hat in hand anyway.

2) BYU, Boise/Colorado State, UH, UC - AAC backfills with USM and Rice. MWC decides to stay at 12 and takes UTEP.

3) Either 1 or 2, but the MWC decides to go to 14 by poaching Texas teams. Every Texas CUSA team left behind would go. In that case, CUSA would lose 3 Texas teams, USM, and Marshall. This is the disaster scenario for CUSA. La Tech and whoever in Texas is left behind would be in a very bad situation. Every team in CUSA with options is looking for the exits.

Remember, this is in a Big XII to 14 scenario. In a Big XII to 12 scenario CUSA just probably loses 1 team, and can probably pick a team from us to get back to an even number.

---

In the past, CUSA could have made a preemptive strike to protect themselves. They could raid the Belt before they get poached. With 14 members, I'm not sure they can do that now as easily.

I'm pretty sure CUSA is concerned about scenarios 1, 2, or 3. I'm not sure they can do anything about it though. They could waive the entrance fee.

---

If USA, Ga Southern, App, ULL, and State stick together, and the Big XII goes to 14, we should pass CUSA in short order. And we just might be able to pick two teams off from them. But if we don't stick together, we could end up with another downgrade, losing 3 of our better programs and have to add more FCS move ups and partial members.

In scenario 3, and if UTEP is not taken, look for NMSU to get serious consideration to give UTEP a travel partner, allowing travel costs per game for oly sports to be more efficient.

Not so fast. In scenario 3, UTEP is probably in the MWC. No need for a travel partner in El Paso and no room at the inn for NMSU in the MWC. Sadly, I think that scenario is more of a threat to NMSU than an opportunity.

(07-30-2016 07:32 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:00 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 08:03 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 06:27 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 04:26 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Does Louisiana finally get the opportunity to be a constant thorn in La Tech's side?

I think ULL's best move would be to let La Tech rot in CUSA, where they'll be stuck in a division with UTSA, UNT, UTEP, (probably Texas State), and UAB. No USM. No Marshall. No Rice. Some years they won't play MTSU or WKU. In those years, a conference schedule where every game could be a sub 100 team. That's going to be ugly. And that conference can probably kiss their P5 bowl game g'bye too.

Oh, and that conference will still be every bit as wide spread and expensive for their Olympic sports.

Oh, there will probably be LESS money as a result of it.

----

But ULL would still consider it. So would USA. The problem is the fact that if Rice and USM move from the West of CUSA, then that division is going to be a tough sell. Especially if they had to pay 4 million for it.

Does it make sense for the AAC to take Rice & USM along with Marshall? Taking away Cincy, Memphis and Houston leaves the AAC with UCF, USF, Tulane, Tulsa, SMU in the South / ECU, UConn, Temple and football only Navy in the North. Adding Rice or USM balances the south. but the north needs two. Adding both USM & Rice doesn't make a lot of sense considering USM would be sitting directly in the middle of the southern schools, but in the northern division.

Hmmm. Looks like ECU could use a travel partner.... So, That leaves one one other spot for a northern team looking for a home for its football program to make 6 in the north division. USM added to the south. You know the other teams I'm taking about.

But, here's the thing: I'm not convinced that the AAC loses three. I think the odd man out is Houston. BYU, CSU, Memphis, Cincinnati.

You're getting my drift.

I just don't see the Big 12 taking little brother Colorado State after losing the Buffs a few years back. Plus, Ft Colllins brings them nothing. There has been a public show of support for Houston by Big 12 coaches and there are still a lot of ties from the old SWC days.

csu hardly breaks 25,000 at home games while ut-austin takes in 90,000+ and ou and osu and wvu are packed houses. how do the rams make the case that they belong?

(07-30-2016 04:54 PM)runamuck Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:32 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:00 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 08:03 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 06:27 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I think ULL's best move would be to let La Tech rot in CUSA, where they'll be stuck in a division with UTSA, UNT, UTEP, (probably Texas State), and UAB. No USM. No Marshall. No Rice. Some years they won't play MTSU or WKU. In those years, a conference schedule where every game could be a sub 100 team. That's going to be ugly. And that conference can probably kiss their P5 bowl game g'bye too.

Oh, and that conference will still be every bit as wide spread and expensive for their Olympic sports.

Oh, there will probably be LESS money as a result of it.

----

But ULL would still consider it. So would USA. The problem is the fact that if Rice and USM move from the West of CUSA, then that division is going to be a tough sell. Especially if they had to pay 4 million for it.

Does it make sense for the AAC to take Rice & USM along with Marshall? Taking away Cincy, Memphis and Houston leaves the AAC with UCF, USF, Tulane, Tulsa, SMU in the South / ECU, UConn, Temple and football only Navy in the North. Adding Rice or USM balances the south. but the north needs two. Adding both USM & Rice doesn't make a lot of sense considering USM would be sitting directly in the middle of the southern schools, but in the northern division.

Hmmm. Looks like ECU could use a travel partner.... So, That leaves one one other spot for a northern team looking for a home for its football program to make 6 in the north division. USM added to the south. You know the other teams I'm taking about.

But, here's the thing: I'm not convinced that the AAC loses three. I think the odd man out is Houston. BYU, CSU, Memphis, Cincinnati.

You're getting my drift.

I just don't see the Big 12 taking little brother Colorado State after losing the Buffs a few years back. Plus, Ft Colllins brings them nothing. There has been a public show of support for Houston by Big 12 coaches and there are still a lot of ties from the old SWC days.

csu hardly breaks 25,000 at home games while ut-austin takes in 90,000+ and ou and osu and wvu are packed houses. how do the rams make the case that they belong?

Exactly.

(07-30-2016 08:43 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 04:54 PM)runamuck Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:32 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:00 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 08:03 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Does it make sense for the AAC to take Rice & USM along with Marshall? Taking away Cincy, Memphis and Houston leaves the AAC with UCF, USF, Tulane, Tulsa, SMU in the South / ECU, UConn, Temple and football only Navy in the North. Adding Rice or USM balances the south. but the north needs two. Adding both USM & Rice doesn't make a lot of sense considering USM would be sitting directly in the middle of the southern schools, but in the northern division.

Hmmm. Looks like ECU could use a travel partner.... So, That leaves one one other spot for a northern team looking for a home for its football program to make 6 in the north division. USM added to the south. You know the other teams I'm taking about.

But, here's the thing: I'm not convinced that the AAC loses three. I think the odd man out is Houston. BYU, CSU, Memphis, Cincinnati.

You're getting my drift.

I just don't see the Big 12 taking little brother Colorado State after losing the Buffs a few years back. Plus, Ft Colllins brings them nothing. There has been a public show of support for Houston by Big 12 coaches and there are still a lot of ties from the old SWC days.

csu hardly breaks 25,000 at home games while ut-austin takes in 90,000+ and ou and osu and wvu are packed houses. how do the rams make the case that they belong?

Exactly.

I'm not married to CSU. I just don't think it 3 teams will be gone from the AAC. Could be Boise, could be air force. As for CSU there is this:

(07-29-2016 01:56 PM)Tealblood Wrote:  If If If

Why would a cherry picked CUSA add any teams back

They just got whacked on the tv deal pretty good if they lose a top tier team or 2 the next tv deal gets worse

So in my opinion it comes down to CFP money a G5 gets 10 million before the performance component kicks in

so now 10 mil split 14 ways is 715,000
10 mil split 12 ways 833,333
10 mil split 10 is well you get the point

This will not be the CUSA of 10 years ago much less 5 years ago

That is why CUSA won't lose much after this is done. If AAC loses 2 or 3 they will stay at 10. If they lose 1 they go back to 12. CUSA will at most lose one school to AAC, and in the end I don't see MWC taking anyone.

(07-30-2016 08:56 PM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 08:43 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 04:54 PM)runamuck Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:32 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:00 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  Hmmm. Looks like ECU could use a travel partner.... So, That leaves one one other spot for a northern team looking for a home for its football program to make 6 in the north division. USM added to the south. You know the other teams I'm taking about.

But, here's the thing: I'm not convinced that the AAC loses three. I think the odd man out is Houston. BYU, CSU, Memphis, Cincinnati.

You're getting my drift.

I just don't see the Big 12 taking little brother Colorado State after losing the Buffs a few years back. Plus, Ft Colllins brings them nothing. There has been a public show of support for Houston by Big 12 coaches and there are still a lot of ties from the old SWC days.

csu hardly breaks 25,000 at home games while ut-austin takes in 90,000+ and ou and osu and wvu are packed houses. how do the rams make the case that they belong?

Exactly.

I'm not married to CSU. I just don't think it 3 teams will be gone from the AAC. Could be Boise, could be air force. As for CSU there is this:

ok that's nice but 41,000 and with their usual crowds there will be some empty seats. that new stadium would allow them to bring in some name ooc teams tho and it is on campus instead of across town.