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(07-12-2016 08:36 PM)SENOREIDA Wrote:  I am sorry, but the Naval academy is the best school on the list. Don't know how it is ranked last. The Naval Academy and West Point are the two best schools in the nation.

They weren't ranked last as much as they just weren't ranked. I'm assuming there was some criteria that just left them off the list altogether
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My big surprises on the list:

-New Mexico State. 196 in the world, just wow! Its a surprise but they are a land grand school. Edit: This was supposed to be New Mexico.

-Rice & SMU are a lot closer in ranking here than most people perceive them to be.

-Akron at 494 and ahead of Kent State is a shock as that school is doing horribly at the moment with a big decline in its freshman class.

-Tulsa is NR. I've always thought Tulsa is overrated as a school. Rice, SMU and Tulane are some fine schools but Tulsa seems to be an average private school with FBS football.

-AAC is by far and away the best academically. MWC is slightly ahead of the MAC. CUSA is sub 600 except for Rice & UAB.
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(07-12-2016 11:01 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  My big surprises on the list:

-New Mexico State. 196 in the world, just wow! Its a surprise but they are a land grand school. Edit: This was supposed to be New Mexico.

-Rice & SMU are a lot closer in ranking here than most people perceive them to be.

-Akron at 494 and ahead of Kent State is a shock as that school is doing horribly at the moment with a big decline in its freshman class.

-Tulsa is NR. I've always thought Tulsa is overrated as a school. Rice, SMU and Tulane are some fine schools but Tulsa seems to be an average private school with FBS football.

-AAC is by far and away the best academically. MWC is slightly ahead of the MAC. CUSA is sub 600 except for Rice & UAB.

CUSA is sub 600 except for Rice & UAB, yet you fail to mention the fact that only two SBC schools even cracked the top 1000?

My big surprise was this:

AAC - 83% of membership ranked
CUSA - 71% of membership ranked
MAC - 67% of membership ranked
MWC - 67% of membership ranked

SBC - 20% of membership ranked

The SBC is clearly very much below par in these rankings. I'm truly surprised that it's this bad.
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(07-12-2016 08:32 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  Academic dick measuring contest on a sports board. Just shut up.

Worst thread of the year?
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(07-12-2016 07:05 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  
(07-12-2016 07:01 PM)itsmeagain Wrote:  
(07-12-2016 06:59 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  
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(07-12-2016 06:25 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  Academics has zero impact or relevance to any sport and obviously attendance and support for athletics. As with a lot of schools the postgraduate students are a small part of the student base, often graduates of a different school and or are not heavily involved in athletics. Undergraduates are the bread and butter of athletic support. There is little difference in UGA, GSU and GS in initial and mid career salary especially GS and GSU. I can only guess since we have only been a university since 1992 the insignificant gap that is there will only get narrower as we continue to grow. Only GT runs with the big dogs when is comes to pay in this state.

GSU's location facilitated the need in a booming city for all the transplants to get masters and doctorates good for them. How that makes them "not fit" (by some not all of course) when their quality of undergrad is sub par to others in this conference is beyond me.

You're right it probably makes little difference to athletics. But hey, here's something which during this long summer GSU fans can boast about, so there's that. But if you take a look at the AAC board, one of the reasons their fans don't want a look at Southern is their low academic standing. We might not have all of the things we need done in line yet to progress to higher things, but academically were in the mix with AAC schools

What is your USNEWS ranking again? If you are an elite academic school why can't you crack top 200 ranking? RNP

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreview...es/page+19

Naa. But at least were ranked globally. Sorry, Southern doesn't seem to be on the list...

You should email US News they obviously missed something. Or they get your undergrad is not elite. Hate to break it to you, you will never be confused with Stanford.
I hate that this thread was even posted. I mean that last sentence was nonsensical and yet totally predictable.

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(07-12-2016 08:36 PM)SENOREIDA Wrote:  I am sorry, but the Naval academy is the best school on the list. Don't know how it is ranked last. The Naval Academy and West Point are the two best schools in the nation.
Doesn't it say NR.

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My gods, people, these are world university rankings. They're looking at things they expect global-impact universities to do. Quality of education is only a small part of it, and I'm going to guess that that's actually a really hard thing to quantify anyway.

Look at who else isn't on the list: Villanova, Vassar, Smith, Wesleyan* (actually, it's on the list), Oberlin, Davidson... It simply doesn't cover the spectrum of goals for colleges. Now, itsmeagain is a scientist who may end up wanting to work in academia someday. Like it or not, these rankings have value there, and seeing GSU at 153 in the US pretty cool. Obviously, we'd love to be higher...another reason I don't get why anyone would think that posting this meant GSU folks feel like we're the same as Harvard, Stanford, or whoever else your current insult includes.

As has been mentioned, if your school has a desire to grow in the areas assessed by these rankings, I'm sure that's being addressed within the university. It's entirely possible that they're not concerned. That's okay. My undergrad alma mater, Mercer, is not listed. They seem to be fine with where they've settled in as a highly regarded regional university who isn't so concerned with pumping up research dollars, possibly at the expense of the undergraduate education that's so highly valued there. That's okay. Seriously, it is!

Props to those of you who did actually try to just discuss these...
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(07-12-2016 04:13 PM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  
(07-12-2016 03:56 PM)panama Wrote:  #Funbelt

You guys are definitely too good for it. We can ignore those other school rankings where you guys are middle of the pack in conference.

All that from a single hashtag? Jesus!
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(07-13-2016 07:18 AM)timber Wrote:  
(07-12-2016 04:13 PM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  
(07-12-2016 03:56 PM)panama Wrote:  #Funbelt

You guys are definitely too good for it. We can ignore those other school rankings where you guys are middle of the pack in conference.

All that from a single hashtag? Jesus!
The funny part is that it was a comment on where I thought this thread was headed...lol

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(07-13-2016 06:49 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  My gods, people, these are world university rankings. They're looking at things they expect global-impact universities to do. Quality of education is only a small part of it, and I'm going to guess that that's actually a really hard thing to quantify anyway.

Look at who else isn't on the list: Villanova, Vassar, Smith, Wesleyan, Oberlin, Davidson... It simply doesn't cover the spectrum of goals for colleges. Now, itsmeagain is a scientist who may end up wanting to work in academia someday. Like it or not, these rankings have value there, and seeing GSU at 153 in the US pretty cool. Obviously, we'd love to be higher...another reason I don't get why anyone would think that posting this meant GSU folks feel like we're the same as Harvard, Stanford, or whoever else your current insult includes.

As has been mentioned, if your school has a desire to grow in the areas assessed by these rankings, I'm sure that's being addressed within the university. It's entirely possible that they're not concerned. That's okay. My undergrad alma mater, Mercer, is not listed. They seem to be fine with where they've settled in as a highly regarded regional university who isn't so concerned with pumping up research dollars, possibly at the expense of the undergraduate education that's so highly valued there. That's okay. Seriously, it is!

Props to those of you who did actually try to just discuss these...

I think the only reason some of my Eagle brethren got their panties twisted is because it felt like this thread was started solely to take a dig at Georgia Southern which most likely wasn't the case.
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(07-13-2016 08:56 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(07-13-2016 06:49 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  My gods, people, these are world university rankings. They're looking at things they expect global-impact universities to do. Quality of education is only a small part of it, and I'm going to guess that that's actually a really hard thing to quantify anyway.

Look at who else isn't on the list: Villanova, Vassar, Smith, Wesleyan, Oberlin, Davidson... It simply doesn't cover the spectrum of goals for colleges. Now, itsmeagain is a scientist who may end up wanting to work in academia someday. Like it or not, these rankings have value there, and seeing GSU at 153 in the US pretty cool. Obviously, we'd love to be higher...another reason I don't get why anyone would think that posting this meant GSU folks feel like we're the same as Harvard, Stanford, or whoever else your current insult includes.

As has been mentioned, if your school has a desire to grow in the areas assessed by these rankings, I'm sure that's being addressed within the university. It's entirely possible that they're not concerned. That's okay. My undergrad alma mater, Mercer, is not listed. They seem to be fine with where they've settled in as a highly regarded regional university who isn't so concerned with pumping up research dollars, possibly at the expense of the undergraduate education that's so highly valued there. That's okay. Seriously, it is!

Props to those of you who did actually try to just discuss these...

I think the only reason some of my Eagle brethren got their panties twisted is because it felt like this thread was started solely to take a dig at Georgia Southern which most likely wasn't the case.

It honestly wasn't. I just like seeing organized data.
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A BS is a BS is a BS.
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(07-13-2016 09:07 AM)itsmeagain Wrote:  
(07-13-2016 08:56 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  I think the only reason some of my Eagle brethren got their panties twisted is because it felt like this thread was started solely to take a dig at Georgia Southern which most likely wasn't the case.

It honestly wasn't. I just like seeing organized data.

Considering the history of such discussions on here...I guess I get the reaction. Although I like seeing the data organized like that, too.

Also, I was wrong about Wesleyan not being on the list. It's there; it must have been Wellesley that I ctrl-f'ed...
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(07-13-2016 09:21 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  
(07-13-2016 09:07 AM)itsmeagain Wrote:  
(07-13-2016 08:56 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  I think the only reason some of my Eagle brethren got their panties twisted is because it felt like this thread was started solely to take a dig at Georgia Southern which most likely wasn't the case.

It honestly wasn't. I just like seeing organized data.

Considering the history of such discussions on here...I guess I get the reaction. Although I like seeing the data organized like that, too.

Also, I was wrong about Wesleyan not being on the list. It's there; it must have been Wellesley that I ctrl-f'ed...
I take itsmeagain at his word because its a subject that interest him. But I would not have posted that thread here. Ninety Nine times out of one hundred that thread end up right where we are.
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(07-12-2016 03:11 PM)CatMom Wrote:  TXST is a doctorate granting research university. UTA has been one for a longer or similar time frame than/as UTSA but didn't make it. They're a Carnegie R1 for cripes sake.

UTA was listed at 592. and #175 in u.s., but carnegie has UTA at #110. parameters vary for all these ratings associations.
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(07-13-2016 05:24 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(07-12-2016 11:01 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  My big surprises on the list:

-New Mexico State. 196 in the world, just wow! Its a surprise but they are a land grand school. Edit: This was supposed to be New Mexico.

-Rice & SMU are a lot closer in ranking here than most people perceive them to be.

-Akron at 494 and ahead of Kent State is a shock as that school is doing horribly at the moment with a big decline in its freshman class.

-Tulsa is NR. I've always thought Tulsa is overrated as a school. Rice, SMU and Tulane are some fine schools but Tulsa seems to be an average private school with FBS football.

-AAC is by far and away the best academically. MWC is slightly ahead of the MAC. CUSA is sub 600 except for Rice & UAB.

CUSA is sub 600 except for Rice & UAB, yet you fail to mention the fact that only two SBC schools even cracked the top 1000?

My big surprise was this:

AAC - 83% of membership ranked
CUSA - 71% of membership ranked
MAC - 67% of membership ranked
MWC - 67% of membership ranked

SBC - 20% of membership ranked

The SBC is clearly very much below par in these rankings. I'm truly surprised that it's this bad.



We can see that Idaho and NMSU are really outliers in the the SBC, both geographically and in academic ranking.

What on earth were those SBC presidents thinking when they voted to non-renew them? I wonder.
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(07-13-2016 08:56 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(07-13-2016 06:49 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  My gods, people, these are world university rankings. They're looking at things they expect global-impact universities to do. Quality of education is only a small part of it, and I'm going to guess that that's actually a really hard thing to quantify anyway.

Look at who else isn't on the list: Villanova, Vassar, Smith, Wesleyan, Oberlin, Davidson... It simply doesn't cover the spectrum of goals for colleges. Now, itsmeagain is a scientist who may end up wanting to work in academia someday. Like it or not, these rankings have value there, and seeing GSU at 153 in the US pretty cool. Obviously, we'd love to be higher...another reason I don't get why anyone would think that posting this meant GSU folks feel like we're the same as Harvard, Stanford, or whoever else your current insult includes.

As has been mentioned, if your school has a desire to grow in the areas assessed by these rankings, I'm sure that's being addressed within the university. It's entirely possible that they're not concerned. That's okay. My undergrad alma mater, Mercer, is not listed. They seem to be fine with where they've settled in as a highly regarded regional university who isn't so concerned with pumping up research dollars, possibly at the expense of the undergraduate education that's so highly valued there. That's okay. Seriously, it is!

Props to those of you who did actually try to just discuss these...

I think the only reason some of my Eagle brethren got their panties twisted is because it felt like this thread was started solely to take a dig at Georgia Southern which most likely wasn't the case.
Apparently, anything that is posted that does not involve Georgia Southern is considered a dig by some of your fans. Like really, this thread was meant to be just small talk considering there's no major sport to talk about right now. 03-banghead
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(07-16-2016 07:58 PM)BariBlue Wrote:  
(07-13-2016 08:56 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(07-13-2016 06:49 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  My gods, people, these are world university rankings. They're looking at things they expect global-impact universities to do. Quality of education is only a small part of it, and I'm going to guess that that's actually a really hard thing to quantify anyway.

Look at who else isn't on the list: Villanova, Vassar, Smith, Wesleyan, Oberlin, Davidson... It simply doesn't cover the spectrum of goals for colleges. Now, itsmeagain is a scientist who may end up wanting to work in academia someday. Like it or not, these rankings have value there, and seeing GSU at 153 in the US pretty cool. Obviously, we'd love to be higher...another reason I don't get why anyone would think that posting this meant GSU folks feel like we're the same as Harvard, Stanford, or whoever else your current insult includes.

As has been mentioned, if your school has a desire to grow in the areas assessed by these rankings, I'm sure that's being addressed within the university. It's entirely possible that they're not concerned. That's okay. My undergrad alma mater, Mercer, is not listed. They seem to be fine with where they've settled in as a highly regarded regional university who isn't so concerned with pumping up research dollars, possibly at the expense of the undergraduate education that's so highly valued there. That's okay. Seriously, it is!

Props to those of you who did actually try to just discuss these...

I think the only reason some of my Eagle brethren got their panties twisted is because it felt like this thread was started solely to take a dig at Georgia Southern which most likely wasn't the case.
Apparently, anything that is posted that does not involve Georgia Southern is considered a dig by some of your fans. Like really, this thread was meant to be just small talk considering there's no major sport to talk about right now. 03-banghead

It's classless in my opinion to rub the salt following an exercise in humility. Certainly the possibility of some rubbing from the Ga state bunch is not out of the question.

Even with lower avg SAT scores there's still 25,000 more students. This comparison reminds me of the comps the appraiser used to value my house. 4 houses all on the same block. All similar sq footage. One is half the appraised value of the other three. It can not possibly be a comp. It's on a corner adjacent to an office parking lot and across from the big church. Half price may as well be in the church parking lot. It's never had any upgrades and it's 40 years old. The rest have been updated. You have to ask why? It appears to be the same but it is clearly not. Ga state fans much like the appraiser seem to brush over the obvious and despite it being a rub on all traditional universities GS fans deal with it.
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