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RE: King Karl on Jonesboro Radio
(05-28-2016 10:31 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-28-2016 09:02 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(05-28-2016 08:39 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-28-2016 06:40 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Thought he was straight forward on every question asked.

As I have stated before hopefully one of the days the rest of the SBC will come to realize that the agenda of the A-State posters here to derail and vilify him, are base strictly on the fact they think he is not bowing down to them.

He must have the the interest of the SBC as a whole in mind not just them, and that really irks them.

Little FYI for the A-State posters here ..........by any measure the SBC is getting better under him, so deal with it.

I think it's more accurate to say the conference has gotten better despite him. If Benson was professional, had tact, and didn't play favorites, maybe stAte fans would have more respect for him. We're just not afraid to call him out on all his BS.
As long as posters from the other SBC teams here come to realize that the agenda of the A-State posters here, and your coordinated efforts to discredit him has nothing to do with what is in their best interest I'm good with that.

He has in fact done a good job for them, and that it irks A-State fans here is probably a pretty good indication of that.

Most SBC fans hate Karl. Maybe not to the level that AState fans hate him, but he, like every commisioner around these days, is unpopular.

AState fans will hate him until the day he leaves this job. No one gives two licks for whether or not the league has imrpoved under him. (That's arguable to begin with) We're going to still hate him, my advice would be for you to deal with it.
What do I have to deal with. I'm not a part of these failed efforts.
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King Karl on Jonesboro Radio
(05-29-2016 01:19 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  People vastly over-rate the power commissioners have. The bulk of what they do is give advice and try to help the members reach consensus. Commissioner can't add new members and can't set scheduling policy.

Seminole's inaccurate comments to the contrary there is reasonable reason to AState dislike of the commissioner that isn't about wanting him to bow down.

In a game in 2012 AState had a player involved in a "targeting" play. Official whose responsibility it was didn't see it as a targeting call, the supervisor of officials reviewed it grading the crew and didn't think it was targeting. WKU coaches saw it on film (they were the next opponent) they pointed it out and supervisor again reviewed it and ruled it a clean play. The commissioner looked at it and ruled it was targeting and suspended the player for the WKU game.

In 2013 the GoDaddy had indicated an interest in taking AState for a third straight season. The commissioner told them AState had another game lined up (we were making a pitch to Shreveport but so were others) and suggested taking WKU. The Cajuns then shat themselves and left AState in the title picture and AState discovered that we might get left out of the bowl picture despite the league football regs requiring that all teams tied for the league title had to be placed in bowls. Benson claimed that the rule didn't exist then that it didn't mean what it said (even though it plainly said all tied teams for first get a game if the league has enough ties). GoDaddy discovers AState is interested and doesn't bother to wait to see if AState will be a tied team and invites us.

Then in 2015 at the Sun Belt women's tournament Benson is asked about the AState-UALR match (AState is floating on the edge of the bubble, UALR has sealed up an NCAA bid) and says its in the best interest of the conference if UALR wins so they can get a better seed where anyone else in that situation says either way it is good, a UALR win means a higher seed, an AState win means two bids. But no equivocation, he wants UALR to win.

Then fall of 2015 AState has clinched no worse than a tie for first and is facing Texas State. AState plans a championship ceremony after the game since the only question is whether the Red Wolves share the title. Benson had presented at GaSo the year before but can't make it to Jonesboro for whatever reason. The trophy gets sent FedEx to the Convocation Center and arrives on Saturday, no signature required. Worker going in sees a box by the door! Finally word gets to the right people there is some box from the Sun Belt over here.

That's not asking the commissioner to bow down, it is asking him to not overturn his hired football rules expert on a controversial play, it is asking him to follow the league's own rules in bowl selection, it is asking for a veneer of professionalism in discussing who he wants to WIN a league title, it is asking for not having a trophy left outside a building on the day of an event.


Ah, 2013.

Also known as the year I took Karl down by digging out the football regs and sending them to any press members who wanted them.

Within an hour the site required a password to access the docs.

Hahaha


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RE: King Karl on Jonesboro Radio
(05-29-2016 06:31 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Nothing inaccurate about my comment, just wanted the other posters here to be reminded that the coordinated efforts by the A-State posters here to discredit him are not necessarily in their best interest. The reasons for these efforts was not mentioned, but the effort and agenda is real.

It does appear that he has done a pretty good job considering the circumstances the last few years.

TV we are still under the contract signed while Waters was commissioner. We had NOLA and GoDaddy signed and a handshake with Cure before Waters left so not seeing any major victory on bowls.

With the conference tournament he PAID Hot Springs to leave a year early and we've had the atrociously attended tournament in New Orleans that costs more money because the hotel and food costs for the teams are higher.

We added two teams in a panic that we now are kicking to the curb.

What exactly is the good job you are seeing? He hiring coaches and recruiting for the rising programs?
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RE: King Karl on Jonesboro Radio
(05-29-2016 11:23 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(05-29-2016 06:31 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Nothing inaccurate about my comment, just wanted the other posters here to be reminded that the coordinated efforts by the A-State posters here to discredit him are not necessarily in their best interest. The reasons for these efforts was not mentioned, but the effort and agenda is real.

It does appear that he has done a pretty good job considering the circumstances the last few years.

TV we are still under the contract signed while Waters was commissioner. We had NOLA and GoDaddy signed and a handshake with Cure before Waters left so not seeing any major victory on bowls.

With the conference tournament he PAID Hot Springs to leave a year early and we've had the atrociously attended tournament in New Orleans that costs more money because the hotel and food costs for the teams are higher.

We added two teams in a panic that we now are kicking to the curb.

What exactly is the good job you are seeing? He hiring coaches and recruiting for the rising programs?

Didn't you know that Benson secretly recruits for Georgia Southern on his days off?
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RE: King Karl on Jonesboro Radio
(05-29-2016 06:44 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(05-28-2016 10:31 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-28-2016 09:02 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(05-28-2016 08:39 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-28-2016 06:40 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Thought he was straight forward on every question asked.

As I have stated before hopefully one of the days the rest of the SBC will come to realize that the agenda of the A-State posters here to derail and vilify him, are base strictly on the fact they think he is not bowing down to them.

He must have the the interest of the SBC as a whole in mind not just them, and that really irks them.

Little FYI for the A-State posters here ..........by any measure the SBC is getting better under him, so deal with it.

I think it's more accurate to say the conference has gotten better despite him. If Benson was professional, had tact, and didn't play favorites, maybe stAte fans would have more respect for him. We're just not afraid to call him out on all his BS.
As long as posters from the other SBC teams here come to realize that the agenda of the A-State posters here, and your coordinated efforts to discredit him has nothing to do with what is in their best interest I'm good with that.

He has in fact done a good job for them, and that it irks A-State fans here is probably a pretty good indication of that.

Most SBC fans hate Karl. Maybe not to the level that AState fans hate him, but he, like every commisioner around these days, is unpopular.

AState fans will hate him until the day he leaves this job. No one gives two licks for whether or not the league has imrpoved under him. (That's arguable to begin with) We're going to still hate him, my advice would be for you to deal with it.
What do I have to deal with. I'm not a part of these failed efforts.

I'm not sure what you are apart of anymore.
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RE: King Karl on Jonesboro Radio
(05-28-2016 10:40 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  We have four bowl games in our footprint and one (Tucson) out of it. Only one is at a member's stadium (GoDaddy which pre-dates USA football)
CUSA outlier ties are Bahamas and Hawaii. New Mexico is an outlier if UTEP doesn't go.
AAC doesn't have ANY bowl game that is reasonable travel for the western schools other than Birmingham and half the west division is long drive to B'ham. Only one bowl at a member's stadium. Great bowl line-up for the eastern schools though.
MAC has no bowl games that are easily accessible to fans. None at member stadiums.
MWC five of six games are at member stadiums.

AAC has a tie in to the Armed Forces bowl...playing a Big 12 team there this year. AAC has 8 tie ins for 12 teams...9 if you include access bowl, which should at least be 50 percent of the time, if you want to go off the past 3 years when UCF and Houston won major bowls. We also have an alternate tie in to the Independence bowl. This is the AAC bowl lineup this year:

Birmingham Bowl
Birmingham, Ala. – vs. SEC

St. Petersburg Bowl
St. Petersburg, Fla. – vs. ACC

Miami Beach Bowl
Miami, Fla. – vs. MAC

Military Bowl presented by Northrop Grumman
Annapolis, Md. – vs. ACC

Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl
Fort Worth, Texas – vs. Big 12

Bahamas Bowl
Nassau Bahamas – vs. MAC

Marmot Boca Raton Bowl
Boca Raton, Fla. – vs. Conference USA

AutoNation Cure Bowl
Orlando, Fla. – vs. Sun Belt
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RE: King Karl on Jonesboro Radio
(05-29-2016 08:16 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-29-2016 06:44 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(05-28-2016 10:31 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-28-2016 09:02 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(05-28-2016 08:39 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  I think it's more accurate to say the conference has gotten better despite him. If Benson was professional, had tact, and didn't play favorites, maybe stAte fans would have more respect for him. We're just not afraid to call him out on all his BS.
As long as posters from the other SBC teams here come to realize that the agenda of the A-State posters here, and your coordinated efforts to discredit him has nothing to do with what is in their best interest I'm good with that.

He has in fact done a good job for them, and that it irks A-State fans here is probably a pretty good indication of that.

Most SBC fans hate Karl. Maybe not to the level that AState fans hate him, but he, like every commisioner around these days, is unpopular.

AState fans will hate him until the day he leaves this job. No one gives two licks for whether or not the league has imrpoved under him. (That's arguable to begin with) We're going to still hate him, my advice would be for you to deal with it.
What do I have to deal with. I'm not a part of these failed efforts.

I'm not sure what you are apart of anymore.

Anyone on this board who hasn't figured out his schtick deserves it.

Benson is widely mocked...not just by A-State fans...not just within this conference.
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RE: King Karl on Jonesboro Radio
(05-29-2016 08:16 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-29-2016 06:44 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(05-28-2016 10:31 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-28-2016 09:02 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(05-28-2016 08:39 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  I think it's more accurate to say the conference has gotten better despite him. If Benson was professional, had tact, and didn't play favorites, maybe stAte fans would have more respect for him. We're just not afraid to call him out on all his BS.
As long as posters from the other SBC teams here come to realize that the agenda of the A-State posters here, and your coordinated efforts to discredit him has nothing to do with what is in their best interest I'm good with that.

He has in fact done a good job for them, and that it irks A-State fans here is probably a pretty good indication of that.

Most SBC fans hate Karl. Maybe not to the level that AState fans hate him, but he, like every commisioner around these days, is unpopular.

AState fans will hate him until the day he leaves this job. No one gives two licks for whether or not the league has imrpoved under him. (That's arguable to begin with) We're going to still hate him, my advice would be for you to deal with it.
What do I have to deal with. I'm not a part of these failed efforts.

I'm not sure what you are apart of anymore.
Look I like the job you guys do here promoting the SBC,and AStateNation ( my primary source for all things Redwolf) for promoting A-State, just that it appears King Karl as you call him, has won the fight.

I can certainly understand the beef A-State fans have with him, but at some point you have to except the fact this is a no win situation that is not helping your program, and yes I've notices a strong bias toward GaSo, and AppSt ( who are among the biggest gets in realignment IMO so I really don't mind ). Time to cut your losses, and walk away IMO.
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RE: King Karl on Jonesboro Radio
(05-29-2016 10:04 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  
(05-28-2016 10:40 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  We have four bowl games in our footprint and one (Tucson) out of it. Only one is at a member's stadium (GoDaddy which pre-dates USA football)
CUSA outlier ties are Bahamas and Hawaii. New Mexico is an outlier if UTEP doesn't go.
AAC doesn't have ANY bowl game that is reasonable travel for the western schools other than Birmingham and half the west division is long drive to B'ham. Only one bowl at a member's stadium. Great bowl line-up for the eastern schools though.
MAC has no bowl games that are easily accessible to fans. None at member stadiums.
MWC five of six games are at member stadiums.

AAC has a tie in to the Armed Forces bowl...playing a Big 12 team there this year. AAC has 8 tie ins for 12 teams...9 if you include access bowl, which should at least be 50 percent of the time, if you want to go off the past 3 years when UCF and Houston won major bowls. We also have an alternate tie in to the Independence bowl. This is the AAC bowl lineup this year:

Birmingham Bowl
Birmingham, Ala. – vs. SEC

St. Petersburg Bowl
St. Petersburg, Fla. – vs. ACC

Miami Beach Bowl
Miami, Fla. – vs. MAC

Military Bowl presented by Northrop Grumman
Annapolis, Md. – vs. ACC

Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl
Fort Worth, Texas – vs. Big 12

Bahamas Bowl
Nassau Bahamas – vs. MAC

Marmot Boca Raton Bowl
Boca Raton, Fla. – vs. Conference USA

AutoNation Cure Bowl
Orlando, Fla. – vs. Sun Belt

He noted all of that. He was just simply pointing out that for a school on the Western side of the league, there's nothing drive-able for fans outside of Fort Worth.
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Re: RE: King Karl on Jonesboro Radio
(05-29-2016 08:13 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-29-2016 11:23 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(05-29-2016 06:31 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Nothing inaccurate about my comment, just wanted the other posters here to be reminded that the coordinated efforts by the A-State posters here to discredit him are not necessarily in their best interest. The reasons for these efforts was not mentioned, but the effort and agenda is real.

It does appear that he has done a pretty good job considering the circumstances the last few years.

TV we are still under the contract signed while Waters was commissioner. We had NOLA and GoDaddy signed and a handshake with Cure before Waters left so not seeing any major victory on bowls.

With the conference tournament he PAID Hot Springs to leave a year early and we've had the atrociously attended tournament in New Orleans that costs more money because the hotel and food costs for the teams are higher.

We added two teams in a panic that we now are kicking to the curb.

What exactly is the good job you are seeing? He hiring coaches and recruiting for the rising programs?

Didn't you know that Benson secretly recruits for Georgia Southern on his days off?

That explains why we can't keep up with Ark St in recruiting:D
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RE: King Karl on Jonesboro Radio
(05-29-2016 11:48 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  
(05-29-2016 08:13 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-29-2016 11:23 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(05-29-2016 06:31 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Nothing inaccurate about my comment, just wanted the other posters here to be reminded that the coordinated efforts by the A-State posters here to discredit him are not necessarily in their best interest. The reasons for these efforts was not mentioned, but the effort and agenda is real.

It does appear that he has done a pretty good job considering the circumstances the last few years.

TV we are still under the contract signed while Waters was commissioner. We had NOLA and GoDaddy signed and a handshake with Cure before Waters left so not seeing any major victory on bowls.

With the conference tournament he PAID Hot Springs to leave a year early and we've had the atrociously attended tournament in New Orleans that costs more money because the hotel and food costs for the teams are higher.

We added two teams in a panic that we now are kicking to the curb.

What exactly is the good job you are seeing? He hiring coaches and recruiting for the rising programs?

Didn't you know that Benson secretly recruits for Georgia Southern on his days off?

That explains why we can't keep up with Ark St in recruiting:D
I think you are doing just fine in recruiting, and a couple of more classes is all that is needed for both AppSt, and GaSo to really get a full FBS roster. Should have the depth to be among the very best G5's every year, and better than most P5's at that point.
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RE: King Karl on Jonesboro Radio
(05-29-2016 10:23 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(05-29-2016 08:16 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-29-2016 06:44 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(05-28-2016 10:31 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(05-28-2016 09:02 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  As long as posters from the other SBC teams here come to realize that the agenda of the A-State posters here, and your coordinated efforts to discredit him has nothing to do with what is in their best interest I'm good with that.

He has in fact done a good job for them, and that it irks A-State fans here is probably a pretty good indication of that.

Most SBC fans hate Karl. Maybe not to the level that AState fans hate him, but he, like every commisioner around these days, is unpopular.

AState fans will hate him until the day he leaves this job. No one gives two licks for whether or not the league has imrpoved under him. (That's arguable to begin with) We're going to still hate him, my advice would be for you to deal with it.
What do I have to deal with. I'm not a part of these failed efforts.

I'm not sure what you are apart of anymore.
Look I like the job you guys do here promoting the SBC,and AStateNation ( my primary source for all things Redwolf) for promoting A-State, just that it appears King Karl as you call him, has won the fight.

I can certainly understand the beef A-State fans have with him, but at some point you have to except the fact this is a no win situation that is not helping your program, and yes I've notices a strong bias toward GaSo, and AppSt ( who are among the biggest gets in realignment IMO so I really don't mind ). Time to cut your losses, and walk away IMO.

So where exactly do we walk to? If we become quiet, then it's basically giving him a vote of confidence. If we keep things the same, we definitely won't get any special treatment but at least we will keep him on his toes.
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