(03-19-2016 04:01 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(03-19-2016 12:03 PM)gopher952 Wrote:  I really think its time we send north Dakota and umd a invite for hockey. 4 mn teams playing in conference championships speaks for its self umd deffinatly deserves a look at. Only problem I see is north Dakota already being d1 in other sports. But umd is d2 in everything but hockey and like john Hopkins will never turn d1 in other sports. Uofm would never let them.

Barely 5000 fans showed up for the BIG tournament at Excel Arena, yet more than twice that amount showed up at the Target Center for the NCHC tourney, most of them UND fans. We lost last night, but we still have a 1 seed wrapped up. The Gophers are fighting for their lives even to make the NCAA tournament.

Who would have thought that UND would be more esteemed in the Minneapolis market.

UCONN and Ariz St are rumored the choices by some Gopher fans, so their will be no relief for Gopher faithful that want more local teams.

interesting. why UConn?

(03-19-2016 05:17 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  

(03-19-2016 04:01 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(03-19-2016 12:03 PM)gopher952 Wrote:  I really think its time we send north Dakota and umd a invite for hockey. 4 mn teams playing in conference championships speaks for its self umd deffinatly deserves a look at. Only problem I see is north Dakota already being d1 in other sports. But umd is d2 in everything but hockey and like john Hopkins will never turn d1 in other sports. Uofm would never let them.

Barely 5000 fans showed up for the BIG tournament at Excel Arena, yet more than twice that amount showed up at the Target Center for the NCHC tourney, most of them UND fans. We lost last night, but we still have a 1 seed wrapped up. The Gophers are fighting for their lives even to make the NCAA tournament.

Who would have thought that UND would be more esteemed in the Minneapolis market.

UCONN and Ariz St are rumored the choices by some Gopher fans, so their will be no relief for Gopher faithful that want more local teams.

interesting. why UConn?

There not he is delusional. North Dakota relevant in minneapolis? Lol never. Ndsu maybe but nodak never. Minnesota had second best attandence this year. But I guess all our fans have disappeared.

(03-19-2016 05:17 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  

(03-19-2016 04:01 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(03-19-2016 12:03 PM)gopher952 Wrote:  I really think its time we send north Dakota and umd a invite for hockey. 4 mn teams playing in conference championships speaks for its self umd deffinatly deserves a look at. Only problem I see is north Dakota already being d1 in other sports. But umd is d2 in everything but hockey and like john Hopkins will never turn d1 in other sports. Uofm would never let them.

Barely 5000 fans showed up for the BIG tournament at Excel Arena, yet more than twice that amount showed up at the Target Center for the NCHC tourney, most of them UND fans. We lost last night, but we still have a 1 seed wrapped up. The Gophers are fighting for their lives even to make the NCAA tournament.

Who would have thought that UND would be more esteemed in the Minneapolis market.

UCONN and Ariz St are rumored the choices by some Gopher fans, so their will be no relief for Gopher faithful that want more local teams.

interesting. why UConn?

UCONN would give NYC a B1G hockey presence, but UCONN fans insist it is only possible with a full bid. Notre Dame, BC, and BU have appeal, but it's not mutual.

Ariz St is almost assured if one more team can be signed by the B1G.

The attendance so far tonight is terrible can't even deny it.

(02-29-2016 05:57 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 11:54 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  Yes, and I'd go even further: the school had NO position to say no. If the Big Ten adds a sport, then its member schools HAVE to be members. It's not even a question. I understand Minnesota hockey fans' complaints on an emotional guttural level, but it's the tail wagging the dog if you let hockey rule the tens of millions of dollars at stake with Big Ten football that so many other schools would KILL for and Minnesota was gifted by making the right conference choice over 100 years ago. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth, Gopher fans.

If things started from scratch today, the Gophers would still be in a power conference.

It has 50,000 students, 400,000 living alumni, and a $3.3 billion endowment. Those numbers are all more than Maryland, Utah, or Missouri.

It's also the only D-1 school in a state with 5.4 milllion people, and by-and-large the state doesn't have anywhere near the level of divided loyalties that you find in Maryland or Missouri's metro areas.

Power conference yes. But "the" power conference? That's what he's referring to. Also like anything else, the power schools in other sports, more important sports, likely feel the same way about some schools within the conference, perhaps even Minnesota, but they do it for the good of the conference. Showing a lack of gratitude in the primary sport in which Minnesota contributes, is what frank is talking about.

(03-20-2016 10:04 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 05:57 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 11:54 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  Yes, and I'd go even further: the school had NO position to say no. If the Big Ten adds a sport, then its member schools HAVE to be members. It's not even a question. I understand Minnesota hockey fans' complaints on an emotional guttural level, but it's the tail wagging the dog if you let hockey rule the tens of millions of dollars at stake with Big Ten football that so many other schools would KILL for and Minnesota was gifted by making the right conference choice over 100 years ago. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth, Gopher fans.

If things started from scratch today, the Gophers would still be in a power conference.

It has 50,000 students, 400,000 living alumni, and a $3.3 billion endowment. Those numbers are all more than Maryland, Utah, or Missouri.

It's also the only D-1 school in a state with 5.4 milllion people, and by-and-large the state doesn't have anywhere near the level of divided loyalties that you find in Maryland or Missouri's metro areas.

Power conference yes. But "the" power conference? That's what he's referring to. Also like anything else, the power schools in other sports, more important sports, likely feel the same way about some schools within the conference, perhaps even Minnesota, but they do it for the good of the conference. Showing a lack of gratitude in the primary sport in which Minnesota contributes, is what frank is talking about.

More important sport's? Please hockey is king to us. Our football use to be good but i can't Deny at moment we are a terrible in football and basketball. I think most the gopher fan base would be happy if other schools would put more effort in there teams. Besides Michigan everyone else sucked this year including us I don't know how we won big ten regular season championship with such bad team and to make it worse losing last night cost us a chance in postseason.

We where making strides just ranked a few years ago in football and basketball but has all gone down hill with ad scandal, terrible hiring of rich pitino and jerry kill retiring due to health.

Minnesota isn't even in the NCAA tournament. The B1G got only one team, Michigan.

(03-20-2016 11:10 AM)gopher952 Wrote:  

(03-20-2016 10:04 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 05:57 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 11:54 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  Yes, and I'd go even further: the school had NO position to say no. If the Big Ten adds a sport, then its member schools HAVE to be members. It's not even a question. I understand Minnesota hockey fans' complaints on an emotional guttural level, but it's the tail wagging the dog if you let hockey rule the tens of millions of dollars at stake with Big Ten football that so many other schools would KILL for and Minnesota was gifted by making the right conference choice over 100 years ago. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth, Gopher fans.

If things started from scratch today, the Gophers would still be in a power conference.

It has 50,000 students, 400,000 living alumni, and a $3.3 billion endowment. Those numbers are all more than Maryland, Utah, or Missouri.

It's also the only D-1 school in a state with 5.4 milllion people, and by-and-large the state doesn't have anywhere near the level of divided loyalties that you find in Maryland or Missouri's metro areas.

Power conference yes. But "the" power conference? That's what he's referring to. Also like anything else, the power schools in other sports, more important sports, likely feel the same way about some schools within the conference, perhaps even Minnesota, but they do it for the good of the conference. Showing a lack of gratitude in the primary sport in which Minnesota contributes, is what frank is talking about.

More important sport's? Please hockey is king to us. Our football use to be good but i can't Deny at moment we are a terrible in football and basketball. I think most the gopher fan base would be happy if other schools would put more effort in there teams. Besides Michigan everyone else sucked this year including us I don't know how we won big ten regular season championship with such bad team and to make it worse losing last night cost us a chance in postseason.

Hockey may be king to the fans but which sport is bringing in all the money?

Why again would UCONN leave a 6 bid conference (Hockey East) for a 1 bid conference (Big Ten) in respect to a hockey-only affiliation? Big Ten can up their offer or GTFOH.

(03-20-2016 05:42 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Why again would UCONN leave a 6 bid conference (Hockey East) for a 1 bid conference (Big Ten) in respect to a hockey-only affiliation? Big Ten can up their offer or GTFOH.

UCONN has a pretty good bargaining position. There's no denying that.

(03-20-2016 11:16 AM)gopher952 Wrote:  We where making strides just ranked a few years ago in football and basketball but has all gone down hill with ad scandal, terrible hiring of rich pitino and jerry kill retiring due to health.

But your women's hockey team won yet another title, so there's that!

(03-20-2016 06:16 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(03-20-2016 11:16 AM)gopher952 Wrote:  We where making strides just ranked a few years ago in football and basketball but has all gone down hill with ad scandal, terrible hiring of rich pitino and jerry kill retiring due to health.

But your women's hockey team won yet another title, so there's that!

Honestly I am pretty proud of our women's teams overall.

(03-19-2016 07:16 PM)gopher952 Wrote:  The attendance so far tonight is terrible can't even deny it.

Thankfully the Big Ten tournament goes back to Detroit next year.

(02-28-2016 01:17 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Add UCONN. Problem solved.

Do you mean for all sports?

No way UConn would leave the best hockey conference to join the B1G in a Johns Hopkins style move.

As for UConn and the NYC market for hockey, I don't think there is a NYC college hockey market at all. UConn does have fans in NYC and Boston for both men's and women's college bball (you can see it in the ratings from the cities, and heck, in the blowout loss to Kansas the other day, they were talking about all the Roxbury, Mass. kids who grew up as Uconn fans, including Kansas' Wayne Selden), but there is no such tradition in hockey. UConn hockey is a totally new thing limited to the state.

I'd be willing to bet that Cornell and Boston U. have more pull in new York City when it comes to hockey. But that's just because of the alumni from New York.

(02-29-2016 11:51 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(02-28-2016 08:19 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Ariz St still hasn't started on their own rink. Doubt Ariz St gets added for B1G hockey until that happens.

It's about the market. Period. The Phoenix market actually has more Big Ten alums living there than Pac-12 alums (and then you add the Midwestern snowbirds that come every winter AKA hockey season on top of it). At the same time, the Pac-12 is the Big Ten's closest friend in college sports - there's a symbiotic relationship there (and they aren't encroaching on each other's geographic territory, unlike the other P5 leagues). Once again, this is a much bigger picture issue beyond hockey itself.

Quote:Our fan base absolutely detests the idea of going B1G hockey. Highly doubt that it would happen, but we are practically the only fan base that fills opposing arenas now.

The North Dakota fan base can tell themselves that, but they shouldn't be delusional in thinking that the school has any power on that front. If the Big Ten invited UND or ANY school that isn't in the Hockey East (which is the only hockey league that is reasonably immune from poaching by the Big Ten), they would accept that invite sight unseen. It isn't even a question. The Big Ten has complete poaching power here - they just may not choose to exercise that power because they have a greater slew of factors to consider beyond on-the-ice metrics (i.e. market size, academic fit, etc.).

I wonder if you're going to get the same dynamic we see in Charlotte and Phoenix etc.

Though there are a ton of Canadians on the west coast, LA and Arizona, and there are a ton of northeasterners in the Carolinas, are these the people who hated snow and winter sports? That's what they say about the Canadians out west.