We gave that game away period!

This is f*ckin depressing.

Horrible, you just can't let that happen at home complete CHOKE JOB.

What has happened to Flemmings? He was playing like a POY candidate, and can't seem to hit the bucket now.

Students were stunned walking out. Not a word was said.

I don't really give a dam what anybody else may think right now. I was sitting right there on the floor and watched one pos official in particular help Hofstra get back in the game. Keatts was about to explode. The guys played too hard to get hosed like that. You know you're in trouble when Jerry Heater was the best official on the floor tonight.

Can someone shed some light on the Charge/Block review.. What exactly was being looked at as that play is not reviewable and the official behind the play has the call on that correct?

(02-25-2016 09:53 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  I don't really give a dam what anybody else may think right now. I was sitting right there on the floor and watched one pos official in particular helped Hofstra get back in the game. Keatts was about to explode. The guys played too hard to get hosed like that. You know you're in trouble when Jerry Heater was the best official on the floor tonight.

Your not lying brother

WTF

What in the world happened in the 2nd half?!

(02-25-2016 11:16 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  WTF

Whatever the circumstance, once more we had the ability to clinch outright the regular season title in a game in which we were favored we did not get the job done. While the officials were a factor this is primarily on the shoulders of the players and coaches.

The Hawks made dumb fouls period. You don't foul a 3 point shooter and we did that 2x I believe. Missed 2 key FTs. Talley and Ponder fouled out which hurt. We had an open 3 to win it and enough time to tip it. This kind of game caught up to UNCW. They have won several close games and when it's close, you can lose. When up 7 with about 2 to play, you have to make them drive the ball, collapse and double Green. He's the guy that can beat you and did. This was a bad loss because they should have closed it out. They have to be what they are and not play clock for the last 6 minutes. Again, it finally caught up to us by not playing UNCW ball. The fouling 50 feet from the hoop in the bonus was dumb too. This loss should make them hungry to go out and just play good ball. That's all they need to do.....play the game the way they play....not a half court game against a half court team without fouling.

Normally I would agree with your assessment. But not here. We made some mistakes, but played very well overall. We had a double digit lead in the first half even with nine fouls called on us to their two. The officials confusingly huddled together in the second half after making calls against us. One of those three point fouls you mentioned involved a flop that the ref bought into. One ref in particular was anticipating the calls instead of letting the event finish. Not to take anything away from Hofstra, because they never gave up. But one official in particular aided in their comeback. Officials should never figure into the outcome of a game, but this one did.

I have posted numerous times about how bad the officiating has been the last few seasons, but have not blamed them for a loss, until now.

We can't control officiating my friend. We can control putting ourselves in a position to get a foul called. You don't close out straight on unless you can stop to vertical. The one leg kick, yea, I'll give you that but he gets that call often see the Delaware game. Got to make the trade 2's in that scenario or make someone else beat you. It does suck to only shoot like 11 FT's to their 33 or so. Guys need to get contact even against a zone. Their 2/3 was a joke and it should have been easy to get good looks...even from 3. We simply didn't hit that high post and kick enough or get a few solid ball reversals to initiate. To me, we were playing the clock too early. Still, we should have not put ourselves in that situation. When you look at the entire season, we have won more close games in CAA play than we have lost. And, part of that has been guys stepping up and knocking down shots either at the arc or FT line. Losing Talley was large because he's a really good clutch, tough player.

We were without Talley, Ponder, and Gettys for the final minute due to fouls. That was backbreaking

We lost for several reasons.

1. As Ponder and Talley have regained their offense, Bryce and Flemmings have lost theirs. No explanation. Bryce missed both free throws in a crucial point at the end of the game, as Hofstra kept making their FT's. He had 24 points in the first win, and 6 last night.

2. Rebounding. Gustys has had CAREER nights in rebounding both times we've played this year with TWENTY ONE. I cannot, for the life of me, understand how one player gets 21 rebounds in a man to man defense. BOX OUT! The last rebound where he was given the time out, he was literally standing under the basket while Bryan watched. Rough him up in that situation...foul him...but DO NOT let him just stand under the basket and grab a board.

3. I don't care that Keatts doesn't like to play zone, we have to or we won't get out of this tournament on top. We simply cannot keep giving up 25+ FT attempts to good teams while we take 11 and expect to win. We cannot expect to play two and three players with four fouls and expect to win. WE HAVE SMALL GUARDS. Ok, fine. BUT, you have to account for that on defense. Every decent team calls a timeout at some point, and simply says DRIVE ON THESE GUYS. We do not have the size at guard, or athleticism at center to stop penetration without fouling. That's on the coach.

One other thing I've noticed. Against the best teams, it seems we need career nights from one player to win. Our wins against Hostra and W&M required 31 points from Ingram and 24 points from Bryce respectively.

If you look at CAA play realistically, we beat W&M in OT and got thumped in the 2nd game. We needed a heroic comeback to even have a chance against Hofstra, and then allowed them back into a game we had won. CAA tournament play will be a rock fight. We also needed OT to beat CoC. These are teams that would be challenged to score against a zone, and we'd lower the number of FT's and fouls we give up. I don't think we can expect to win in Baltimore if we don't adjust and play some zone.

I can't believe we lost that game. We were playing great in the first half. We were pushing the ball whenever possible and then had great spacing in the half-court.

A few random thoughts:

CJ Getty's had a couple of really nice post up moves yesterday. He faked right and shot over his left shoulder. Why doesn't he do this every time? It's extremely hard to block as tall as he is. I think he often tries to get too cute with the ball. He cannot shoot going to his right and needs to quit trying.

Did we have timeouts at the end of the game? If so, why don't we sub for offensive and defensive purposes at the end of games? When Ponder hits that huge 3 with about 2 minutes left, why not take him and Talley out on defense? Having those 2 foul out killed us.

Is Ogbodo hurt? I don't think he's a great player but probably could have helped with some defense yesterday. Marcus Bryan is not effective against bigger players. He really struggled on both ends of the court. Why not give Ogbodo or Cacok a chance to see if they have it that night?

I love Keatts but don't understand how his bigs go from starter to zero minutes. Getty's, Ogbodo, Cacok, Sherwood...it's happened to them all at some point in the season.

Bryce needs to stay out of foul trouble early. It seems he can't get into a rhythm. He seemed to be the one guy earlier in the season that wasn't getting the fouls called as much.

Flemmings needs to relax and go back to being a role player. I think he's trying too hard to be the man when he doesn't need to be.

Talley has been playing great. He needs to keep taking it to the hoop!

I still think we are the team to beat in Baltimore. We need to push the ball ALL game, every game. Use most of our bench and wear teams out.

Go Hawks!!

(02-25-2016 09:49 PM)Seahawkfan716 Wrote:  Students were stunned walking out. Not a word was said.

Wanted to give the students some props. There were times last night it felt like the Trask of old. Biggest suggestion would be to get students behind the visitors bench who will stand, get loud, and even heckle. The students behind the Hofstra bench last night were very low energy, to quote CG's favorite bombastic facist

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