(02-03-2016 07:52 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Unless the B12 raids them, I think the AAC will extend the difference with the rest of the Gang, not let it shrink. The AAC tv coverage advantage is huge. And I think unlike CUSA which just got cut, the AAC in 4 years will get a decent raise. If the Big 12 expands who knows how it all works out.

As for Navy, I doubt they win the AAC on a regular basis. Too many other schools with recruiting advantages in AAC. Long term, UH, UCF, USF, Cincy and maybe ECU and or Uconn will be the headliners.

They cant control if it shrinks or not. Are they going to keep us from winning more? With no access to the playoffs the ceiling has been hit or will be soon. I have never heard a recruit say I was going to that winning school but Tulane is on TV more so let me go there. Media markets and TV is the most overblown thing in college football especially at the G5 level everything pales in comparison to WINNING and LOCATION. Winning gets you on TV and location gives you access to talent. If TV and media markets mattered Rutgers would be the #1 team in the country and not some team in BFE Alabama. Also news flash if you have kids you already know this they dont watch TV anymore. The majority people probably 30 and under view media on Tablets or with Roku or Appletv. The majority of what I watch is on a ROKU. Including a lot of football games.

Perception is
AAC-MWC

CUSA-MAC-SBC

last year the MWC sucked out of conference and was in the second group. They still get the benefit of the doubt though.

A team from the second needs a clear advantage or a couple year run . The top G5 team gets the selection not the team from the top conference.

(02-03-2016 07:51 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(02-03-2016 07:01 PM)panama Wrote:  

(02-03-2016 06:30 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  They are the best of the G5 but please the separation is not that great from whoever is #2. It like saying you have the nicest chair at thanksgiving at the kids table. Until the G5 gets reasonable access to a expanded playoff the AAC will bang its head on the G5 ceiling while growing conferences like this one gain on them.

They have 7 schools ranked 77 or better in recruiting and 9 ranked 85 or better.

And? Like you way you spin lol. You definitely missed your calling in politics. Only Houston is in big boy territory at 40 lol. The next highest is 21 spots down. So six of those super 7 are between 77 and 61. Sounds a little different when you know they are basically still logged jammed behind just about all P5's and will end up being within 10 spots of the Belts top class. We may even pass a few more once are three three star kids are updated.
Houston's best recruit had strong ties with the coaching staff I think I heard on ESPN. They drop nearly 20 points without him which would drop them about 14 spots. It is rare G5 gets a five star actually it is the first time ever. AAC is still not near a P5 from top to bottom. Houston, once Herman leaves, will come back down to earth and they will bang their heads on the G5 ceiling like all the other good G5's.

I said they were the best G5 no doubt but my statement is still 100% true. They have a really nice chair at the G5 table but it is not like conferences can't close the gap. Houston is the only team on that list that impresses me. For the rest I think GS would be at worst 50/50 for any other team and the favorite against most.

No spin. Just facts. 7 schools ranked above the top SBC school. What do you want next? Athletic budget? MBB RPI? LOL.

Am I the only one who thinks the AAC isn't really that great of a football league? Houston and navy were good last year, the rest were sort of meh.

Temple and Memphis were not meh. They have seem good programs if they can hold on to them. ECU and Cincy will be back as well.

(02-03-2016 08:17 PM)panama Wrote:  Temple and Memphis were not meh. They have seem good programs if they can hold on to them. ECU and Cincy will be back as well.

Memphis existed because of a single win over Ole Miss. They then fell apart spectacularly, losing 3 of their last 4, and then dropping the bowl to Auburn.

I was never impressed with Temple.

This year they were a cut above, but will that last? It wasn't long ago that Houston was losing to Texas St and Memphis, Temple and UConn were bottom of the barrel G5 teams. UCF and USF look to be trading roller coaster runs. ECU just set their program back a few years with their premature dismissal of Ruffin. SMU is stiiiilllll trying to come back from the death penalty. Tulsa has a flash in the pan every once in a while and don't get me started on TooLame. Houston and the other contenders looked like a cut above this year, but for the most part, until this year, talent and performance-wise, the AAC is a conference full of top-tier C-USA and Sun Belt type programs with better name recognition.

(02-03-2016 08:34 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(02-03-2016 08:17 PM)panama Wrote:  Temple and Memphis were not meh. They have seem good programs if they can hold on to them. ECU and Cincy will be back as well.

Memphis existed because of a single win over Ole Miss. They then fell apart spectacularly, losing 3 of their last 4, and then dropping the bowl to Auburn.

I was never impressed with Temple.

Ok SBC = AAC

(02-03-2016 07:52 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Unless the B12 raids them, I think the AAC will extend the difference with the rest of the Gang, not let it shrink. The AAC tv coverage advantage is huge. And I think unlike CUSA which just got cut, the AAC in 4 years will get a decent raise. If the Big 12 expands who knows how it all works out.

As for Navy, I doubt they win the AAC on a regular basis. Too many other schools with recruiting advantages in AAC. Long term, UH, UCF, USF, Cincy and maybe ECU and or Uconn will be the headliners.

The aac along with every other league will see a reduction. Could be really bad depending on which teams the b12 take.
The truth is some of these teams built themselves up using the recruiting line that they were gonna be an AQ league which has vanished. They can no longer make any truthful claim in recruiting that win over any kid from another g5 school.

If such a separation existed then my lowly school that was supposedly held out because of our market, budget or whatever the excuse of the day is, would not have been able to take committed players from aac schools like we did this week.

The houston ad is simply doing what its fanbase does. ... Blowing smoke.

(02-03-2016 09:21 PM)panama Wrote:  

(02-03-2016 08:34 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(02-03-2016 08:17 PM)panama Wrote:  Temple and Memphis were not meh. They have seem good programs if they can hold on to them. ECU and Cincy will be back as well.

Memphis existed because of a single win over Ole Miss. They then fell apart spectacularly, losing 3 of their last 4, and then dropping the bowl to Auburn.

I was never impressed with Temple.

Ok SBC = AAC

Where did I say that?

I just said that the league outside of Houston and Navy was not as good as people claimed it was. Houston and Navy were absolutely two of the best teams in the country though.

Temple was 10-4 and beat Penn State and finished #41 (Massey Composite)
Memphis was 9-4 and finished #37

Considering that only three non AAC G5 schools finished ahead of Temple, they aren't that bad. Have they created complete separation? No. But the way they are headed budget and facility wise it's obvious where they are headed and few have the resources to keep up.

(02-03-2016 09:36 PM)panama Wrote:  Temple was 10-4 and beat Penn State and finished #41 (Massey Composite)
Memphis was 9-4 and finished #37

Considering that only three non AAC G5 schools finished ahead of Temple, they aren't that bad. Have they created complete separation? No. But the way they are headed budget and facility wise it's obvious where they are headed and few have the resources to keep up.

You seem so eager to accept perception when it is not reality.

The AAC is the best G5 league right now...but there ranking this year was overinflated because of two really good teams.

Ok

(02-03-2016 09:44 PM)panama Wrote:  Ok

Well...you are. You listen to so called "experts" and follow unscientific polls to magically determine that one team is better than another, when the only way to actually do that is for the two to play on the field.

(02-03-2016 09:47 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(02-03-2016 09:44 PM)panama Wrote:  Ok

Well...you are. You listen to so called "experts" and follow unscientific polls to magically determine that one team is better than another, when the only way to actually do that is for the two to play on the field.

LMAO yea look at our record all time vs all those elite teams

(02-03-2016 10:44 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(02-03-2016 09:47 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(02-03-2016 09:44 PM)panama Wrote:  Ok

Well...you are. You listen to so called "experts" and follow unscientific polls to magically determine that one team is better than another, when the only way to actually do that is for the two to play on the field.

LMAO yea look at our record all time vs all those elite teams

Our AD loves to cite Southern Miss vs Houston 2011 as reason #1 why the Sun Belt should not hold a conference title game. I swear he has highlights of that game that he plays on continual loop in his office

I don't agree with this. They have ONE elite team right now (and Houston wasn't anything special a few years ago).

Their bottom tier teams can't come close to defeating the top tier CUSA, SBC, MWC, MAC etc.

Have a strong team in the SBC go undefeated in 2016 and you'll notice that they defeated a SEC school and probably ACC/BIG12 squad as well. That will trump a 10-2 season for an AAC school.

I'll admit, if the AAC school goes undefeated as well, the selection committee will select the AAC school.

As for Temple, yes this school is looking better than in the past, but their facilities are not special, commuter school, and their stadium situation is a mess. Also if they have another successful season, their coach will begin getting offers from P5 schools. Also they are 50 miles from a BIG10 school who hasn't even received half of the money they will normally be receiving like all the other BIG10 schools.

Temple isn't going anywhere special.

One school that should be special is East Carolina but that administration is a mess and I don't see them rebounding anytime soon either.

AAC ain't pulled away from MWC but hell did anyone think this year or the year before that if you won MAC, Sun Belt or CUSA you would be in the access game unless AAC or MWC's champ was at least a win behind?

Coaches from Boise and Colorado State could have made the same claims for the previous 3 years. Those two conferences each have a few standout programs that make the rest of the league look better, but many of their programs are no better than the rest of us.

Let's not forget they had the worst bowl record of any G5 conference this year as well.