Any questions regarding CF's mod removal should be sent to GTS.

(02-16-2016 09:15 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  Any questions regarding CF's mod removal should be sent to GTS.

Not trying to pick a fight, but why can't this be addressed publicly, so that everyone is kept apprised of what happened?

And btw, and since I'm the one who bumped this thread: I think a lot of folks (like myself) never saw it, but noticed the absence of cf and wondered why. I think the obtuse title of the thread, not to mention the op, did notmake it clear what had happened.

(02-16-2016 09:25 AM)LAcajuns_fan Wrote:  

(02-16-2016 09:15 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  Any questions regarding CF's mod removal should be sent to GTS.

Not trying to pick a fight, but why can't this be addressed publicly, so that everyone is kept apprised of what happened?

And btw, and since I'm the one who bumped this thread: I think a lot of folks (like myself) never saw it, but noticed the absence of cf and wondered why. I think the obtuse title of the thread, not to mention the op, did notmake it clear what had happened.

Again, that is a question you have to ask GTS in a PM. It will be up to him what details are released since it was his decision.

I don't mean to say that it can only be discussed in a PM, its easier to get his attention that way since he has a multitude of forums.

I've pm'd him twice to get my ID corrected....zero response.

Don't see how he'd respond anymore to someone questioning his motives, lol.

(02-16-2016 09:01 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(02-16-2016 07:42 AM)boroeagle2 Wrote:  

(02-15-2016 10:15 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I don t see him on here at all anymore. Was he expelled completely from the board?

Also, was it the constant bickering with LaTech fans that lost him his status? I've been on this board a few years now, but I don't really know or understand all of the rules/roles of moderators, etc.

I know GTS left this open for questions, but since this thread was recently bumped he might not have seen it and I'll address these two posts. CF has not been expelled from the board, and GTS stated his decision wasn't to appease La Tech fans (per the original post).

The job of the moderators is to keep order/civility on the board and enforce the rules found here: http://csnbbs.com/thread-457167.html.

The period got in your link and created an error.
Here's the working one: http://csnbbs.com/thread-457167.html

(02-16-2016 10:03 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(02-16-2016 09:01 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(02-16-2016 07:42 AM)boroeagle2 Wrote:  

(02-15-2016 10:15 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I don t see him on here at all anymore. Was he expelled completely from the board?

Also, was it the constant bickering with LaTech fans that lost him his status? I've been on this board a few years now, but I don't really know or understand all of the rules/roles of moderators, etc.

I know GTS left this open for questions, but since this thread was recently bumped he might not have seen it and I'll address these two posts. CF has not been expelled from the board, and GTS stated his decision wasn't to appease La Tech fans (per the original post).

The job of the moderators is to keep order/civility on the board and enforce the rules found here: http://csnbbs.com/thread-457167.html.

The period got in your link and created an error.
Here's the working one: http://csnbbs.com/thread-457167.html

Thanks! I removed the period I was using to end my sentence that was unintentionally being interpreted in the html link.

Also....I was very intrigued as to why things need to be 'settled down' before a UL mod is chosen..... ....What is ths referring to? Why should the UL fans/posters have to pay a penalty for something we never even knew was happening, much less could affect????

And, again, we get no responses from pm's to GTS, so where can we go from there for answers?

Finally, and with all due respect, nothing about the whole way this situation was handled seems very orderly....and certainly not civil. Thx

Just a guess on my part…

Moderation is often a contentious issue on a message board and a lot of message board posters will pick up their toys and go home if they have even the slightest reason to believe the moderator team is biased. GTS bends over backwards to try and make the moderator team be and appear to be as unbiased as possible to try and limit this, hence the thing about having a moderator team from each fan base.

CF being the jocular poster he is is just a straw for someone to grasp at when complaining about moderators.

(02-16-2016 10:37 AM)LAcajuns_fan Wrote:  Also....I was very intrigued as to why things need to be 'settled down' before a UL mod is chosen..... ....What is ths referring to? Why should the UL fans/posters have to pay a penalty for something we never even knew was happening, much less could affect????

And, again, we get no responses from pm's to GTS, so where can we go from there for answers?

Finally, and with all due respect, nothing about the whole way this situation was handled seems very orderly....and certainly not civil. Thx

(02-16-2016 10:38 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Just a guess on my part…

Moderation is often a contentious issue on a message board and a lot of message board posters will pick up their toys and go home if they have even the slightest reason to believe the moderator team is biased. GTS bends over backwards to try and make the moderator team be and appear to be as unbiased as possible to try and limit this, hence the thing about having a moderator team from each fan base.

CF being the jocular poster he is is just a straw for someone to grasp at when complaining about moderators.

I don't really have a dog in this fight but it is just my opinion that you will not get any answers on why a Mod is removed unless GTS or CF give them to you directly which is highly doubtful. Being that GTS or CF will most likely not publicly say what happened continuing this thread is pointless.

On the matter of representation I see no effort to have a Mod represent each fan base. We have 3 from Troy (some of those are almost never heard from) and then one each from TX St, stAte, USA, UALR and GS so even if another ULL Mod was added each fan base certainly wouldn't have one and why would each fan base need one. As long as the Mods are fair and follow the rules it shouldn't matter which fan base they are from.

(02-16-2016 10:37 AM)LAcajuns_fan Wrote:  Also....I was very intrigued as to why things need to be 'settled down' before a UL mod is chosen..... ....What is ths referring to? Why should the UL fans/posters have to pay a penalty for something we never even knew was happening, much less could affect????

And, again, we get no responses from pm's to GTS, so where can we go from there for answers?

Finally, and with all due respect, nothing about the whole way this situation was handled seems very orderly....and certainly not civil. Thx

What do you want, do you think this message board needs to have new MOD added every few months. The biggest issue is that the MOD's are fair and consistent. I have been following this board since before Georgia Southern joined the Sun Belt. In that time as far as I can remember there has only been a change in the Mod's 2 times. The first was not long after all the schools left for CUSA and GS & AppSt joined the conference. The second time was just a few months ago.

As far as being orderly and civil with the removal of a MOD, it is the owner of this message boards who has the responsibility of who are the MOD's because it is his butt that is on the line.

Just to reiterate one more time some things

1. If you have an issue with the decision making process, PM GTS. This was his decision, and he alone made that decision. We as a mod staff are not board admins, so it's not our call.

2. The decision to wait on electing a replacement centers around the moderator selections process. We have 2 issues in play that can be openly discussed at any point with us. A: Should every fan base if possible have at least one mod representative, or B: Should mods be chosen regardless of fan affiliation, and based moreso on their ability to guide discussion on this board effectively. As I mentioned yesterday, this is the slow period on this board. We're not overly active right now. Most of us feel that we don't need the additional mod support immediately.

When the time comes, you guys will likely elect the new one entirely.

I'm really not sure what else we can do here as a mod staff. If you have a suggestion, please feel free to bring it up.

(02-14-2016 07:28 PM)airtroop Wrote:  Respectfully, just in my opinion, for the life of me I have no idea why you chose to make this move but it'd have been a LOT classier to let CajunFanatico make this announcement himself vs the "I have removed..." statement you chose to announce.

He's a valued member of this online community and remember, it was the majority of members of this community who offered our nominations on his behalf to become an "esteemed mod".

Just my 2¢... carry on and thanks for letting me voice my opinion.

I PM'ed him before I posted this thread.

(02-15-2016 03:59 AM)airtroop Wrote:  Here's one more point...

If the OP hadn't have pointed out the public flogging, I doubt more than a few of us would've ever noticed the missing "MOD" on CF's avatar. Of those of us who might have, probably only one or two of us would've been curious enough to ask why anyway. FWIW, I don't know CF at all - I just find this whole thread one of the most unnecessary threads I've ever seen in this forum. And that's saying a LOT.

If I just quietly removed him that's sneaky and disingenuous and somebody will eventually notice it was down quietly and throw a hissy. This thread was started point blank to stop school loyalty based conspiracy theories before they got started.

(02-15-2016 09:07 AM)LAcajuns_fan Wrote:  So, when is a ragin Cajun moderator going to be selected to replace CF?

TBD. Right now I want the mod team to gel and work as a team again.


Also, CF hasn't been banned, he has abstained thus far on his own volition.

Also, it is true I won't publicly say what transpired to lead to this, but I think it's fair to say that it is mostly a gut call on my part as to where things were headed with the future health of the mod team working as a team. There were personality conflicts within the mod team and since the buck stops here I have the unpleasant responsibility of adjudicating things before they come to a head. Which means everybody complains how cryptic and heavy handed I was as we quietly sail past the iceburg instead of hitting it. :)

(02-16-2016 02:50 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(02-14-2016 07:28 PM)airtroop Wrote:  Respectfully, just in my opinion, for the life of me I have no idea why you chose to make this move but it'd have been a LOT classier to let CajunFanatico make this announcement himself vs the "I have removed..." statement you chose to announce.

He's a valued member of this online community and remember, it was the majority of members of this community who offered our nominations on his behalf to become an "esteemed mod".

Just my 2¢... carry on and thanks for letting me voice my opinion.

I PM'ed him before I posted this thread.

(02-15-2016 03:59 AM)airtroop Wrote:  Here's one more point...

If the OP hadn't have pointed out the public flogging, I doubt more than a few of us would've ever noticed the missing "MOD" on CF's avatar. Of those of us who might have, probably only one or two of us would've been curious enough to ask why anyway. FWIW, I don't know CF at all - I just find this whole thread one of the most unnecessary threads I've ever seen in this forum. And that's saying a LOT.

If I just quietly removed him that's sneaky and disingenuous and somebody will eventually notice it was down quietly and throw a hissy. This thread was started point blank to stop school loyalty based conspiracy theories before they got started.

(02-15-2016 09:07 AM)LAcajuns_fan Wrote:  So, when is a ragin Cajun moderator going to be selected to replace CF?

TBD. Right now I want the mod team to gel and work as a team again.


Also, CF hasn't been banned, he has abstained thus far on his own volition.

Also, it is true I won't publicly say what transpired to lead to this, but I think it's fair to say that it is mostly a gut call on my part as to where things were headed with the future health of the mod team working as a team. There were personality conflicts within the mod team and since the buck stops here I have the unpleasant responsibility of adjudicating things before they come to a head. Which means everybody complains how cryptic and heavy handed I was as we quietly sail past the iceburg instead of hitting it. :)

Thank you for respecting my opinion enough to address my issues - that means a lot. I certainly have a better understanding now on the dilemma you faced in how to reveal your decision to the masses and why you felt it was a "must".

I guess we'll just have to respectfully agree to disagree on the method you finally chose to announce that a volunteer from our online community was "demoted". You chose to use humor while I'd have probably just left it very vague and said something like: "... nothing personal at all, just one of those group dynamics situations and that's all there is to say about it. Thank you, CF, for your contribution."

But hey, that's just me

EDITED to add: Just to be clear, this is my opinion regardless of the identity of the MOD.

(02-14-2016 07:28 PM)airtroop Wrote:  Thank you for respecting my opinion enough to address my issues - that means a lot. I certainly have a better understanding now on the dilemma you faced in how to reveal your decision to the masses and why you felt it was a "must".

I guess we'll just have to respectfully agree to disagree on the method you finally chose to announce that a volunteer from our online community was "demoted". You chose to use humor while I'd have probably just left it very vague and said something like: "... nothing personal at all, just one of those group dynamics situations and that's all there is to say about it. Thank you, CF, for your contribution."

But hey, that's just me

I learned many years ago there is no fully right answer. If you remove someone quietly you'll stoke conspiracy theorists. If you announce publicly people will that's a rude of handling it. If you lay down the law and call it like you see it you're mean. If you handle them with kid gloves you're blowing smoke up their *** and hiding the truth. There's tens of thousands of people on this site. The sheer number of people assures you'll never get full satisfaction. I choose the path of least resistance ... PM notification, then public announce, and lots of humor. It seems to ruffle the fewest feathers in my experience. *shrug*

#FreeCajunFanatico

(02-16-2016 03:50 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  #FreeCajunFanatico

We'll get that one trending on Twitter immediately!

(02-16-2016 03:22 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  I learned many years ago there is no fully right answer. If you remove someone quietly you'll stoke conspiracy theorists. If you announce publicly people will that's a rude of handling it. If you lay down the law and call it like you see it you're mean. If you handle them with kid gloves you're blowing smoke up their *** and hiding the truth. There's tens of thousands of people on this site. The sheer number of people assures you'll never get full satisfaction. I choose the path of least resistance ... PM notification, then public announce, and lots of humor. It seems to ruffle the fewest feathers in my experience. *shrug*

Time I weigh in.

GTS, wouldn't the decent thing to have done would have been to write me first and at least ask my opinion on how I thought the announcement should be handled? Since I once asked you to remove me as a mod (after the first dust-up on the mod forum), I could have easily used that as an honest explanation for my loss of mod duties.

Instead, I get humiliated in public for what I saw as merely expressing my views openly and clearly to my fellow mods.....in essence, trying to do what you say you wish to do now, push for a more cohesive mod unit, one that follows the rules as I understood them, and a unit that works together.

When I was first elected to the mod staff, Burn The Horse, our boss, gave me some very specific instructions to follow:

1) Conference FIRST. Put aside your team loyalties. Don't let fellow fanbase members divide the mod group.

2) Always back your mod brothers even if you disagree with them. Maintain a united front, never disagree with a fellow mod on the open forum. AND WHEN YOU SEE A FELLOW MOD HAVING TROUBLE, COME TO HIS AID IMMEDIATELY.

3) It's okay to be arrogant about being a mod, as long as you're not a jerk. Don't take mess from anyone, espeically from those who come into our community to stir up trouble.

I would ask my fellow Belt members, was there another poster here who defended the SunBelt as vehemently as I against those arrogant, elitists from across the street? Yeah, I admit that LaTech posters are like catnip to me, but did I ever lord my mod position over any of them, threaten them, forum ban any of them? I let them have their say, to a point. And when one of them reached that point, I asked my fellow mods to step in and help me, as I was instructed to do. In essence I was told to take a long walk off a short plank.

I'm not going to go into all the gory details here, but suffice it to say that I felt at times I was the only one following those rules from BTH. And never one to be a shrinking violet, I told my fellow mod members how I felt. It was maddening to me then, and still is today. And I believe it cost me my mod position.

Heck, the fact that we're here today talking about mod issues on the open forum demonstrates my point that the rules appear to be malleable.

I've interacted with a lot posters here since I joined this place. I've made a lot of friends and I'll admit, I've pissed off a poster or two with my Al Bundy-like sarcasm. But at the end of the day I believe I performed my mod duties as well as I could and was fair to virtually everyone. Yeah, I made some errors, but who hasn't?

You guys, the ones who post and contribute here every single day can be the final judge of my contributions to this forum. I suspect with this post I'll receive the death penalty. Anyone have a cigarette?

(02-16-2016 07:03 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(02-16-2016 03:22 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  I learned many years ago there is no fully right answer. If you remove someone quietly you'll stoke conspiracy theorists. If you announce publicly people will that's a rude of handling it. If you lay down the law and call it like you see it you're mean. If you handle them with kid gloves you're blowing smoke up their *** and hiding the truth. There's tens of thousands of people on this site. The sheer number of people assures you'll never get full satisfaction. I choose the path of least resistance ... PM notification, then public announce, and lots of humor. It seems to ruffle the fewest feathers in my experience. *shrug*

Time I weigh in.

GTS, wouldn't the decent thing to have done would have been to write me first and at least ask my opinion on how I thought the announcement should be handled? Since I once asked you to remove me as a mod (after the first dust-up on the mod forum), I could have easily used that as an honest explanation for my loss of mod duties.

Instead, I get humiliated in public for what I saw as merely expressing my views openly and clearly to my fellow mods.....in essence, trying to do what you say you wish to do now, push for a more cohesive mod unit, one that follows the rules as I understood them, and a unit that works together.

When I was first elected to the mod staff, Burn The Horse, our boss, gave me some very specific instructions to follow:

1) Conference FIRST. Put aside your team loyalties. Don't let fellow fanbase members divide the mod group.

2) Always back your mod brothers even if you disagree with them. Maintain a united front, never disagree with a fellow mod on the open forum. AND WHEN YOU SEE A FELLOW MOD HAVING TROUBLE, COME TO HIS AID IMMEDIATELY.

3) It's okay to be arrogant about being a mod, as long as you're not a jerk. Don't take mess from anyone, espeically from those who come into our community to stir up trouble.

I would ask my fellow Belt members, was there another poster here who defended the SunBelt as vehemently as I against those arrogant, elitists from across the street? Yeah, I admit that LaTech posters are like catnip to me, but did I ever lord my mod position over any of them, threaten them, forum ban any of them? I let them have their say, to a point. And when one of them reached that point, I asked my fellow mods to step in and help me, as I was instructed to do. In essence I was told to take a long walk off a short plank.

I'm not going to go into all the gory details here, but suffice it to say that I felt at times I was the only one following those rules from BTH. And never one to be a shrinking violet, I told my fellow mod members how I felt. It was maddening to me then, and still is today. And I believe it cost me my mod position.

Heck, the fact that we're here today talking about mod issues on the open forum demonstrates my point that the rules appear to be malleable.

I've interacted with a lot posters here since I joined this place. I've made a lot of friends and I'll admit, I've pissed off a poster or two with my Al Bundy-like sarcasm. But at the end of the day I believe I performed my mod duties as well as I could and was fair to virtually everyone. Yeah, I made some errors, but who hasn't?

You guys, the ones who post and contribute here every single day can be the final judge of my contributions to this forum. I suspect with this post I'll receive the death penalty. Anyone have a cigarette?

Thanks for weighing in cf....we needed to hear your side to get the complete picture.

And no, in the short time that I've been here I haven't seen anyone else defend the SBC more than you. As I have told you in the past, it was your unwavering support of a conference that not all UL fans (myself included) are very crazy about being in that encouraged me to bite the bullet, face reality and join in on the fun here. I'm glad I'm now able to say that publicly.


Seems like most SBC posters here want cf back as moderator. Can we have a vote? Can we at least have a discussion about what it would take for that to happen? Unless if CF would not want that to happen, I think it would be the best way to resolve this whole issue.

(02-16-2016 07:03 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  Time I weigh in.

GTS, wouldn't the decent thing to have done would have been to write me first and at least ask my opinion on how I thought the announcement should be handled? Since I once asked you to remove me as a mod (after the first dust-up on the mod forum), I could have easily used that as an honest explanation for my loss of mod duties.

Instead, I get humiliated in public for what I saw as merely expressing my views openly and clearly to my fellow mods.....in essence, trying to do what you say you wish to do now, push for a more cohesive mod unit, one that follows the rules as I understood them, and a unit that works together.

When I was first elected to the mod staff, Burn The Horse, our boss, gave me some very specific instructions to follow:

1) Conference FIRST. Put aside your team loyalties. Don't let fellow fanbase members divide the mod group.

2) Always back your mod brothers even if you disagree with them. Maintain a united front, never disagree with a fellow mod on the open forum. AND WHEN YOU SEE A FELLOW MOD HAVING TROUBLE, COME TO HIS AID IMMEDIATELY.

3) It's okay to be arrogant about being a mod, as long as you're not a jerk. Don't take mess from anyone, espeically from those who come into our community to stir up trouble.

I would ask my fellow Belt members, was there another poster here who defended the SunBelt as vehemently as I against those arrogant, elitists from across the street? Yeah, I admit that LaTech posters are like catnip to me, but did I ever lord my mod position over any of them, threaten them, forum ban any of them? I let them have their say, to a point. And when one of them reached that point, I asked my fellow mods to step in and help me, as I was instructed to do. In essence I was told to take a long walk off a short plank.

I'm not going to go into all the gory details here, but suffice it to say that I felt at times I was the only one following those rules from BTH. And never one to be a shrinking violet, I told my fellow mod members how I felt. It was maddening to me then, and still is today. And I believe it cost me my mod position.

Heck, the fact that we're here today talking about mod issues on the open forum demonstrates my point that the rules appear to be malleable.

I've interacted with a lot posters here since I joined this place. I've made a lot of friends and I'll admit, I've pissed off a poster or two with my Al Bundy-like sarcasm. But at the end of the day I believe I performed my mod duties as well as I could and was fair to virtually everyone. Yeah, I made some errors, but who hasn't?

You guys, the ones who post and contribute here every single day can be the final judge of my contributions to this forum. I suspect with this post I'll receive the death penalty. Anyone have a cigarette?

Well if you want the unvarnished version so be it.

You have personality conflicts with other members of the mod staff. I'm not placing blame, just stating. You enjoy flinging smack poo at the public, but bring out the mod badge when some gets thrown back your way. You haven't overtly used your position to drive discussion and threads where you want, but it is my opinion you will eventually, based purely upon discourse on the mod board and gut feeling. You have a flare for wanting to take any provocation to 11 immediately. First time other mods ask me to step in you immediately want to resign. If I step in on my own volition after that (which is what happened most recently) you presume other mods acting behind your back.

FWIW I think you're a genuinely alright guy, and would probably be a blast to tailgate with. But IMO you are prone to taking things said or acted upon on a message board personally ... and that's not healthy to have at the same time as being a board mod.

The public posting, as I mentioned earlier, was to prevent team based conspiracy theories from emerging.

Also give it a rest with the "I expect to be banned next" closings. That's like the third time you've done that.

Now if anybody has further questions feel free to PM me. But I'm dropping the lock here before the manufactured drama train has a chance to leave the station.

(02-16-2016 07:16 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  Seems like most SBC posters here want cf back as moderator. Can we have a vote? Can we at least have a discussion about what it would take for that to happen? Unless if CF would not want that to happen, I think it would be the best way to resolve this whole issue.

I can save you time and say that I'll veto him in any vote. For now barring something pretty dramatic the mod team stays as it is. After they've had a few months to gel it is worth considering adding a replacement mod (with preference for an unrepresented team) before football.