http://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm

SBC ranking and national rank

1. Appalachian State 45
2. Georgia Southern 54
3. Arkansas State 65
4. Georgia State 96
5. Troy 99
6. South Alabama 100
7. Idaho 107
8. UL 108
9. Texas State 119
10. New Mexico State 122
11. ULM 124

Couple of things to note…

1. Georgia Southern is rated below 2 teams they beat by 4 TDS. I guess that's what happens when you bomb a late-season game against a conference opponent with 6 losses.

2. App State has the highest spread of rankings of any FBS team. App is top 25 in quite a few in the constituent rankings but is below 70 on several.

These will shift a little as the rest of the ratings come in. Only 58 rankings as of the time of this post.

Whoops. My bad.

Final F/+ Rankings (change from 2014 final ranking)

42 App State (+62!!!!)
48 Georgia Southern (+9)
71 stAte (-5)
87 Georgia State (+35)
90 Troy (+36)
102 USA (-13)
104 ULL (-32)
114 Idaho (-2)
116 TX State (-21)
118 NMSU (+6)
121 ULM (-24)

App, Ga State, and Troy are the big improvers from last year.

Staying pretty consistent with previous performance was Georgia Southern, stAte, Idaho, and NMSU (to some degree USA).

Everyone else? Yeesh....

(01-12-2016 01:13 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  Final F/+ Rankings (change from 2014 final ranking)

42 App State (+62!!!!)
48 Georgia Southern (+9)
71 stAte (-5)
87 Georgia State (+35)
90 Troy (+36)
102 USA (-13)
104 ULL (-32)
114 Idaho (-2)
116 TX State (-21)
118 NMSU (+6)
121 ULM (-24)

App, Ga State, and Troy are the big improvers from last year.

Staying pretty consistent with previous performance was Georgia Southern, stAte, Idaho, and NMSU (to some degree USA).

Everyone else? Yeesh....

Considering we returned only 4 starters off of last years roster, dropping 13 spots is not too terrible for USA.

They are all in now. A computer ranking or just a handful are laughable this seems to be the best as it will eliminate the one or two idiotic rankings some teams get. Some have Clemson still at #1, if it were just five that would skew it bad but 78 it has little affect.

(01-12-2016 04:21 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  

(01-12-2016 01:13 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  Final F/+ Rankings (change from 2014 final ranking)

42 App State (+62!!!!)
48 Georgia Southern (+9)
71 stAte (-5)
87 Georgia State (+35)
90 Troy (+36)
102 USA (-13)
104 ULL (-32)
114 Idaho (-2)
116 TX State (-21)
118 NMSU (+6)
121 ULM (-24)

App, Ga State, and Troy are the big improvers from last year.

Staying pretty consistent with previous performance was Georgia Southern, stAte, Idaho, and NMSU (to some degree USA).

Everyone else? Yeesh....

Considering we returned only 4 starters off of last years roster, dropping 13 spots is not too terrible for USA.

Y'all exceeded my expectations tenfold. I think Joey Jones has and continues to do a great job for USA.

(01-12-2016 01:13 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  Final F/+ Rankings (change from 2014 final ranking)

42 App State (+62!!!!)
48 Georgia Southern (+9)
71 stAte (-5)
87 Georgia State (+35)
90 Troy (+36)
102 USA (-13)
104 ULL (-32)
114 Idaho (-2)
116 TX State (-21)
118 NMSU (+6)
121 ULM (-24)

App, Ga State, and Troy are the big improvers from last year.

Staying pretty consistent with previous performance was Georgia Southern, stAte, Idaho, and NMSU (to some degree USA).

Everyone else? Yeesh....

I'm having trouble understanding a ratings system that has our 4-8 2015 team 2 places worse than our 1-10 2014 team.

Last one there were 125 submitted.


http://www.masseyratings.com/cf/arch/compare2015-14.htm

(01-12-2016 06:39 PM)LatahCounty Wrote:  

(01-12-2016 01:13 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  Final F/+ Rankings (change from 2014 final ranking)

42 App State (+62!!!!)
48 Georgia Southern (+9)
71 stAte (-5)
87 Georgia State (+35)
90 Troy (+36)
102 USA (-13)
104 ULL (-32)
114 Idaho (-2)
116 TX State (-21)
118 NMSU (+6)
121 ULM (-24)

App, Ga State, and Troy are the big improvers from last year.

Staying pretty consistent with previous performance was Georgia Southern, stAte, Idaho, and NMSU (to some degree USA).

Everyone else? Yeesh....

I'm having trouble understanding a ratings system that has our 4-8 2015 team 2 places worse than our 1-10 2014 team.

Because it's about performance, not the records. F/+ is comprised of 2 statistical analysis models, the S&P+ and the FEI.

S&P+

Quote:The S&P+ Ratings are a college football ratings system derived from the play-by-play and drive data of all 800+ of a season's FBS college football games (and 140,000+ plays).
The components for S&P+ reflect opponent-adjusted components of four of what Bill Connelly has deemed the Five Factors of college football: efficiency, explosiveness, field position, and finishing drives. (A fifth factor, turnovers, is informed marginally by sack rates, the only quality-based statistic that has a consistent relationship with turnover margins.)

FEI

Quote:The Fremeau Efficiency Index (FEI) is a college football rating system based on opponent-adjusted drive efficiency. Approximately 20,000 possessions are contested annually in FBS vs. FBS games. First-half clock-kills and end-of-game garbage drives and scores are filtered out. Unadjusted game efficiency (GE) is a measure of net success on non-garbage possessions, and opponent adjustments are calculated with special emphasis placed on quality performances against good teams, win or lose

These are really good models, don't discredit them. Lot of data looked at here and it's way beyond the typical ppg, ypg type stuff that really doesn't tell you much about your team. Bill Connelly's Football Study Hall (SBNation) is a great site to read, even for articles that don't pertain to your team, and he does a major analysis of all teams in the preseason. His preseason writeups are the only ones I really read.

To cheer you up a little, the Weighted S&P+ ranking is a measure of how well a team performed at the end of the season. It's subject to small sample sizes, but it allows you to remove a slow/shaky start. In that ranking, Idaho finished 98th which is 11 positions higher than your overall S&P+ ranking (the beginning of your season is dragging you down).