(01-02-2016 08:16 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  I know Bill. He's had better games, but with the way we've played this year, his shot selection needs some attention. We aren't going to be playing our best ball when it's one pass to Ponder and he tries to force something. We have way too much offensive talent on this team to be pulling that mid-major Kobe Bryant crap.

You nailed it, Ponder should not be the player taking the big shot, to much talent on the floor for that to happen.

(01-02-2016 08:28 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  08 he's got to adjust. He seems to have problems adjusting. How many times on our press do they run the exact same play to beat it before you adjust? Pull a guy off the ball and take away the second pass that beat it every single time. We didn't adjust in the Ecu game we didn't adjust tonight. That bull crap charge call was a 6 point swing and really was the game IMO.

We did adjust in the 2nd half, cutting a 12-pt first half lead to 0 with 30 seconds left.

NE shot 44% 50% from 3s and 100% from fts at the end of the 1st half. And we were only down 5. We played well but NE shot lights out, we missed fts and a couple crucial calls went against us

(01-02-2016 08:37 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 08:28 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  08 he's got to adjust. He seems to have problems adjusting. How many times on our press do they run the exact same play to beat it before you adjust? Pull a guy off the ball and take away the second pass that beat it every single time. We didn't adjust in the Ecu game we didn't adjust tonight. That bull crap charge call was a 6 point swing and really was the game IMO.

We did adjust in the 2nd half, cutting a 12-pt first half lead to 0 with 30 seconds left.

I'd say that was more to the effect of us finally getting a few stops and NE missing a few shots finally. They still used the same play to beat our press the entire game.

We played their game tonight, look at the score. They are flat out well-coached and good especially in the half court. We are also well coached and good especially 94 feet. They however had the ball last and executed to perfection in the half court. And, we didn't defend well at all on that critical play.

Yes,it came down to execution at the end. That last play was a killer to me! They decoy Walker to the smart walkon that can really shoot it, we bite on his corner 3, he drives the ball without help partly because Ford goes to the top of the key (Flemmings honors that) the Sherwood tries to help and you have Miller right under the hoop. You have to play better D than that guys!! What a shame to lose it like that. You live and learn and then you understand that times running out. Defend the rim at all costs and live with J's. Not blaming Chris either, somebody else can rotate over too. It started with the aggressive close out on the shot fake.

Looking back,we played well to tie the game. Flemmings made 2 clutch shots and was hot. Still, you have to defend the rim at the end of the game. We hopefully learned a valuable lesson there. Frustrating loss tonight. We really had a great chance to win this game at the end.

If NU had their missing starters available, we lose by 10+. The difference is, they may not have played zone with them in the lineup. May have been a blessing in disguise for NU, since we have no answer against a zone. Now, they'll know what to do at home.

So, here's the question. What do we do different strategically next time?

Normally, you use your big men in the paint to dissect a zone. Good passing leads to open baseline layups, kickouts for open 3's, or shots close to the rim. However, Getty's can't hit a layup, so we are left with driving into the zone(which creates turnovers) or shooting a bunch of 3's(which aren't reliable).

The ideal lineup for UNCW is Talley, Bryce, Flemmings, Sherwood, Bryan. That's an athletic, smart, good sized group who can flat out score and press, and impose our style of play on an opponent.

Watching this team under Keatts for two years, many of our scoring bursts on the full court press are led by Dylan Sherwood. He allows us to bring an athletic 6'9" player from the 4 spot into the front of a press, and when he traps he's impossible to pass over. Bryan does a good job at the back of the press stopping fast breaks if the press is broken, and Talley, Flemmings and Bryce are just great athletes who can get a hand on passes, make the steal and finish.

I hope the Getty's experiment is over. With him starting and playing significant minutes we looked pitiful against a bad Drexel squad, and ineffective with Gettys in the game against an undermanned NU team. He blocks some shots...that's it. In back to back starts he's contributed 4 points and 3 points in 20 mpg.

Our 7th. place preseason prediction looks possible now. If we play like this against W&M, JMU, CoC, Hofstra, Towson and even Elon, we're going to lose a lot of games.

Coach Keatts thought that they were better without those guys. They had good guys out there. Ford and Walker were out there...their best players without question. And, they had that shooter that's a killer and smart...he won the game for them plus they had that big freshmen that didn't miss all night. Whoever was in there could not have played better than him. He nearly had a double double.

You make a lot of good points '82 and I always enjoy reading your posts. I'll just add that I was kind of surprised we didn't consistently have a high post presence against that 2/3 zone look. That is how you break it down and is Hoops 101. We didn't attack it in that fashion-I'm sure that Coach had a reason or maybe I'm just missing somethere here. Yes, ball reversals have a place and a quick drive can help but that high post touch wasn't there at the end when I finally got a chance to watch the last 8 minutes after visiting family. Gotta go to church...

Bill, even if those guys were better, not having the depth with two starters benched for the game meant they had to go to other bench players. The two who were benched were starters for a reason.

And yes, I never saw a big at the FT in the high post to collapse the zone. G'twon used some zone against us and we hit that high post a lot with Bryan. I honestly think the insertion of Gettys into the lineup creates severe limitations on what we can run offensively. He can't cover anywhere but the post on defense, which means a JMU or NU can run their big men outside and take shots he simply can't cover. IMO, Bryan and Chuck have more positives than negatives and Gettys has more negatives than positives. If Keatts wants to go big, i'd rather he play Chuck at the 5 and Bryan at the 4. I thought we were going more uptempo this year, and Gettys is a non-factor on breaks. No way he can get down and offense and back on defense. Both Chuck and Bryan can follow the break for offensive putbacks.

Our big freshman Miller is a normal starter, but with Stahl and Williams out, we went small with freshman Gresham and sophomore Begley filling in to start. They were able to make up for Williams absence. Thankfully we were able to hit enough shots so that Stahl was not missed that much. (He is the player we run a lot of our offense through at the top of the key.) From what I saw of the first half watching on mute, we didn't rebound that well and I thought missing Stahl was big, but then looking at the final box score I guess it was alright.

In the end, Gresham stepped up and played well in Williams' absence. Miller finally played a full game well, which is something he hasn't done all season, except maybe the Miami game.

So from an NU perspective, I kind of agree with both of you. We were missing starters, but had a bench player step up and our freshman F/C have maybe his best game of the season.

Bill I agree with that 100% hoops 101 flash big guy to free throw line he catches squares and looks for open man. With Gettys that's a limitation because when he squares they don't have to respect, with Sherwood though. Also, the press breaker NE ran with their big guy passing in, than immediately pass back worked every time. Why not pull guy off the ball and take that away? Look I love coaches recruiting etc I just think he has to adjust better on the fly

https://twitter.com/Travis_Durkee/status...2742755328

On a lighter note this was hilarious

(01-03-2016 01:57 PM)solohawks Wrote:  https://twitter.com/Travis_Durkee/status...2742755328

On a lighter note this was hilarious

I was going to say their parents must be proud but now I sorta think red ranger's dad may be black ranger.

Gettys has played a total of 41 minutes the last two games. He has shot 33% from the field and 75% for your m the line. He had 11 boards, 8 points, 1 assist, 0 turnovers and 10 blocks. He also caused a good number of altered shot attempts. Bryan was struggling with the size and length of both Drexel and Northeastern. While I don't think Gettys is a good matchup for some teams, he was very effective doing what he was put out there to do in the last two games. If you look at our defense in the paint in those two games, you will see he did his job better than anyone else down low. He was not why we lost to Northeastern. They are a very good team that we were in position to steal a game from.

right now NE is better and more talented than us. The production we don't get from the front court vs what they get was huge. We don't have anyone close to Walker who can do it all. Made a good push but just not enough, I think we will get there in next couple years

They are better than us. But I believe Jennings can do it all. He has shown signs of it. Hopefully he steps that up.

(01-04-2016 12:01 PM)Alpha Hawk Wrote:  right now NE is better and more talented than us. The production we don't get from the front court vs what they get was huge. We don't have anyone close to Walker who can do it all. Made a good push but just not enough, I think we will get there in next couple years

The more talented team doesn't always win, however, especially at the conference tournament. Even if Northeastern has the more talented roster AND a solid, veteran coach, remember that we did beat them twice last season, and those 4 days in Baltimore can get a little whacky.

From.what I have observed NU does not play a deep bench and 3 games in 3 days with a short bench is a tough row to hoe

(01-04-2016 01:41 PM)swampcougar1 Wrote:  From.what I have observed NU does not play a deep bench and 3 games in 3 days with a short bench is a tough row to hoe

Northeastern is averaging about 58 bench minutes a game this season (excluding the game vs D3 opponent). Even though it's pretty low, it's up from last season. Coen just likes to go with who he thinks are his best players. The seniors are in pretty good shape and used to it by now.

In the past our teams used to run out of gas come February and March. The mark of a Coen team. Last year was different though, this group of players might be special :)

(01-04-2016 01:41 PM)swampcougar1 Wrote:  From.what I have observed NU does not play a deep bench and 3 games in 3 days with a short bench is a tough row to hoe

Connelly, Begley, Abakah, Green and now Gresham come off the bench. Not sure what games you saw where we didn't.

The MSU, NC St. and Miami games we didn't go deep because of the quality of the opponent.

Hofstra is really the top team without a bench. They have 4 guys playing between 32.6 and 35.5 minutes per game and then only 3 other guys with real minutes. They will have the toughest time getting through the Conference tourney.

Northeastern with 3 players between 30.6-36.5 isnext most of the top teams with players over 30+ minutes. This is actually not as bad as last year so those guys can handle it (since they made the tourney last year)