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(02-28-2018 01:08 AM)Doots4Dawgs Wrote:  
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(02-26-2018 10:59 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Sadly enough the Rebels series on Disney XD has been more enjoyable than VII and VIII. Could probably even make that claim about the Clone Wars animation.

As time passes, Rogue One is increasingly becoming one of my favorite films of the franchise - I think mainly because while it was somewhat independent of the trilogies it still had to stay within the confines of what is Star Wars. Just because you have some Storm Troopers and a Jedi doesn't fundamentally make either of these last two trilogy movies much in line with what it should be. The near closing scene with Vader boarding the Rebel ship ranks up there as one of the great scenes in all of Star Wars IMO. Up there with some of the better light saber duels.

I agree Episode VIII made VII a worse movie. I really don't understand any of the rationale for completely obliterating what happened in VII with the story line of VIII. If Johnson wanted a stand alone move he should have just asked to do that. Episode IX is going to have to save the franchise or people might stop buying into this thing.

I liked a lot of things about Rogue, especially how it tied in seamlessly with the start of the original Star Wars. I thought the CGI of young Leia and Tarkin was very well done. My one criticism would have to be the character of Saw Gerrera. They could have designed a better look for that character. Forrest looked and sounded like a walking iron lung. Because of this, I didn't like the way Forrest Whitaker played the character. I would have cast Jim Brown, and made Saw less mechanical but heavily battle scarred. Strong and stoic. Quiet and brooding.

Not sure why they added the breathing issue outside of the Vader parallelism. I dont mind him being radical, or unhinged. It may just be the portrayal. Saw is decent enough in Rebels, where Whitaker also voices him.

I think it was meant to show that some Rebels are just as desperate/fringe in their fight as the Empire was (Vader becoming machine, etc). That said, I got the same thing from Poe Dameron...I mean Cassian Andor....shooting his own dude at the start of the film. So not sure we needed Saw in that state.

My least favorite thing about the film is the mind-reading squid. This doesn't match the tone of the rest of the movie AT ALL.

What is it with tentacles in this new Star Wars canon? The Force Awakens featured giant tentacled creatures, Rogue One had a psychic squid, and the Solo trailer features an octopus space storm. Somebody at Lucasfilm must have a serious fetish.
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(02-28-2018 12:03 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  
(02-28-2018 01:08 AM)Doots4Dawgs Wrote:  
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(02-26-2018 10:59 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Sadly enough the Rebels series on Disney XD has been more enjoyable than VII and VIII. Could probably even make that claim about the Clone Wars animation.

As time passes, Rogue One is increasingly becoming one of my favorite films of the franchise - I think mainly because while it was somewhat independent of the trilogies it still had to stay within the confines of what is Star Wars. Just because you have some Storm Troopers and a Jedi doesn't fundamentally make either of these last two trilogy movies much in line with what it should be. The near closing scene with Vader boarding the Rebel ship ranks up there as one of the great scenes in all of Star Wars IMO. Up there with some of the better light saber duels.

I agree Episode VIII made VII a worse movie. I really don't understand any of the rationale for completely obliterating what happened in VII with the story line of VIII. If Johnson wanted a stand alone move he should have just asked to do that. Episode IX is going to have to save the franchise or people might stop buying into this thing.

I liked a lot of things about Rogue, especially how it tied in seamlessly with the start of the original Star Wars. I thought the CGI of young Leia and Tarkin was very well done. My one criticism would have to be the character of Saw Gerrera. They could have designed a better look for that character. Forrest looked and sounded like a walking iron lung. Because of this, I didn't like the way Forrest Whitaker played the character. I would have cast Jim Brown, and made Saw less mechanical but heavily battle scarred. Strong and stoic. Quiet and brooding.

Not sure why they added the breathing issue outside of the Vader parallelism. I dont mind him being radical, or unhinged. It may just be the portrayal. Saw is decent enough in Rebels, where Whitaker also voices him.

I think it was meant to show that some Rebels are just as desperate/fringe in their fight as the Empire was (Vader becoming machine, etc). That said, I got the same thing from Poe Dameron...I mean Cassian Andor....shooting his own dude at the start of the film. So not sure we needed Saw in that state.


My least favorite thing about the film is the mind-reading squid. This doesn't match the tone of the rest of the movie AT ALL.

What is it with tentacles in this new Star Wars canon? The Force Awakens featured giant tentacled creatures, Rogue One had a psychic squid, and the Solo trailer features an octopus space storm. Somebody at Lucasfilm must have a serious fetish.

The difference would be that Saw was being looked down upon by the Rebel Alliance leaders (Mothma, Bail, etc), but even their own intelligence agents were out there doing dirty stuff behind their backs. Saw isnt a member of our Rebels, he became a terrorist, and is definitely an example of the far side of the spectrum of the "Anti Imperials."

Yeah there are lots of tentacles. I didnt care for Bor Gullet or the Rathtars. I think Solo one will be fine if its just a large space animal, which isnt anything new to Star Wars either. But lets not forget the Originals also had tentacle monsters as well with the dianoga and sarlacc, they just used them better.
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slightly different. Looks good though.


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and a little youtube analysis...Darth Vader coming?


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Link to newest Solo trailer:
Solo: A Star Wars Story Trailer: Han Flips an Old Catchphrase, Lando Speaks

I'm more optimistic about this at the moment than The Last Jedi. We'll see if it holds up...May 25th.
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Solo is scheduled to open on May 24 in Australia and May 25 in the US and UK.

The movie will first debut this week during the Cannes Film Festival, days before its worldwide release. The festival also revealed that Solo will run for 2 hours, 15 minutes, the same identical length as Star Wars: The Force Awakens.

Solo premieres tonight in Hollywood, and you will be able to watch on Disney's Star Wars YouTube page.


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Didn't see any real spoilers in this article.

Sure, it's their hype machine, but I'm willing to bet it's better than "The Last Jedi."

Quote: #SoloAStarWarsStory is reaaaaalllly good. Fun as hell. It’s a straight intergalactic heist movie, kind of refreshing to see a Star Wars movie w/o a Death Star or the rebellion’s fate at stake. Alden Ehrenreich is super impressive as Han, but L3 might be my favorite new character.
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link: https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/fi...li=BBnb2gh

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(02-26-2018 10:59 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Sadly enough the Rebels series on Disney XD has been more enjoyable than VII and VIII. Could probably even make that claim about the Clone Wars animation.

As time passes, Rogue One is increasingly becoming one of my favorite films of the franchise - I think mainly because while it was somewhat independent of the trilogies it still had to stay within the confines of what is Star Wars. Just because you have some Storm Troopers and a Jedi doesn't fundamentally make either of these last two trilogy movies much in line with what it should be. The near closing scene with Vader boarding the Rebel ship ranks up there as one of the great scenes in all of Star Wars IMO. Up there with some of the better light saber duels.

I agree Episode VIII made VII a worse movie. I really don't understand any of the rationale for completely obliterating what happened in VII with the story line of VIII. If Johnson wanted a stand alone move he should have just asked to do that. Episode IX is going to have to save the franchise or people might stop buying into this thing.

Just watched "Rogue One" again the other night. I've already seen it more than any other of the SW films except the original Episode Iv-ANH. Ran across this article of comparison from Rolling Stone from the previous year. Makes a lot of points I agree with:
link: https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news...ns-w456727

Quote:But it's something we haven't seen these movies try before, and that's the main thing. While The Force Awakens contented itself with putting a contemporary gloss on tried-and-true formulae, Rogue One took a shot at something new. The former used nostalgia as a currency and fan service as a cudgel; this semi-peripheral addition to the canon uses both of these elements for riffing and a big-picture–narrative spackle, but also as grist for making a statement. War is hell, regardless of whether it's a long, long time ago and involves AT-ATs. We know the costs because we know the outcome. Force is a Greek tragedy; Rogue One wants to be a human one. No matter how many CGI Tarkins you throw into the mix, that ambition is worth saluting.
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I'm just back in from seeing it on IMAX. Overall, pretty good. Ron Howard and the writers with a nice little twist at the end. Obviously, I won't give it away just yet but you see it coming the whole film. It's the what that is surprising though. And I'm not going to lie I believe cultural bias had me thinking one thing but Opie done gone all Jedi on me.

It did get a little stale midway through. I went in with the impression that you were going to get to see Han's various exploits but it's basically one (or two) "big jobs". If there is one complaint I would offer its that it was just another James Bond movie. That's the feel. Hope you guys like it. The stand alone's are still outdoing the new trilogies. Perhaps they need to let Howard and Edwards direct the nex t round instead of these other knuckleheads?

EDIT: To the second sentence in the second paragraph above. Was doing a little reading on it and Alden Ehrenreich (who plays Han) let it slip that he was signed on for three films, so perhaps this means that if Solo does well then we will see sequels to this one?? They certainly set the story and the end up for that possibility.
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BTW, I think traditionalists fans will like this, because there are a lot of references or nods given other parts of the Star Wars timeline. What's the word for foreshadowing something you know has already happened? Whatever that word is we have it in Solo.
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Saw Solo last night, thought it was great. Not quite as good as Rogue One (so if you don't like Rogue One, my opinion probably means nothing to you) but it follows in that gritty Star Wars galaxy feel. My kids thought it was boring in the middle, but I didn't. The surprise at the end had me a little puzzled, but apparently an explanation was set up in the Clone Wars which I never watched.

Still not crazy about the casting choice for Han, but it worked better than I thought it would.
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One hint or perhaps a caution for those of you who haven't been keeping up with the expanded universe of SW. If you've watched Clone Wars and Rebels, the twist may surprise but won't leave you confused. If you've only watched the movies you may be confused. To my knowledge, this "twist" is the first time a film has really embraced the expanded universe beyond a few nuggets or easter eggs. Go see it over the holiday weekend.
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(05-25-2018 07:46 AM)Chappy Wrote:  Saw Solo last night, thought it was great. Not quite as good as Rogue One (so if you don't like Rogue One, my opinion probably means nothing to you) but it follows in that gritty Star Wars galaxy feel. My kids thought it was boring in the middle, but I didn't. The surprise at the end had me a little puzzled, but apparently an explanation was set up in the Clone Wars which I never watched.

Still not crazy about the casting choice for Han, but it worked better than I thought it would.

Yep, I was just typing that out about the expanded universe as you posted.

Agree on Alden Ehrenreich. I was skeptical - and frankly it's an impossible task for someone to recreate such an iconic figure, but I give the guy credit. He did it probably about as well as could be done.
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Were the Wookies they ran into much younger or older than Chewie? I swear they didn't have as much hair in the face as Chewbaca.
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I liked it, fun stuff. Loooots of references to other Star Wars stuff. If you liked The Clone Wars and Rebels I think you'd like this movie. The one thing in the end will be confusing to some, I think it just sets up another story. Its fairly straightforward with the plot, just a good summer movie.
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And I believe most of the actors are signed on as multi-project actors. Felicity Jones was as well. They do end up using some in shows like Forrest Witaker and Mon Mothma's actress being in Rebels.
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I enjoyed it. I haven't seen the latest episode yet but figured it wouldn't matter with this timeline all that much.

Posted from mobile device. Hopefully it's coherent.
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(05-25-2018 08:56 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  Were the Wookies they ran into much younger or older than Chewie? I swear they didn't have as much hair in the face as Chewbaca.

I think they were just supposed to look "distressed" from working in the mines.
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(05-26-2018 05:55 PM)Doots4Dawgs Wrote:  And I believe most of the actors are signed on as multi-project actors. Felicity Jones was as well. They do end up using some in shows like Forrest Witaker and Mon Mothma's actress being in Rebels.

Felicity Jones did a great job as Jyn Erso. I'd like to see more of her in SW movies. Not sure how that would happen though. Best female SW character since Princess Leia (not so fond of General Leia and her out-of-nowhere new "powers" which just did not make any sense in TLJ.)
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