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Up to Five 5-7 teams Going to Bowl Games, Determined by APR
From Connor Tapp @ 24-7 Sports.

There won't be enough teams with non-losing records this season to fill all of the available bowl slots, so the NCAA has come up with a solution. The bowl bids lacking a team with a .500 record or better will be filled by a 5-7 team, with the program's Academic Progress Rate serving as a tiebreaker.

As many as five spots could go unfilled but no fewer than two. Kansas State, Georgia State, and South Alabama each have a chance to earn a sixth win on Saturday. Even if Kansas State doesn't beat West Virginia, it will earn a bowl berth by virtue of its APR score. Nebraska has the highest APR score of all 5-7 teams, so the Huskers are definitely in. Missouri is second, but the Tigers announced shortly after the NCAA revealed the APR scheme that they would be withdrawing their name from consideration.

After Missouri, Minnesota and San Jose State have identical APR scores of 975. Right behind those schools, Illinois and Rice are tied at 973. So the NCAA might have to introduce a second tiebreaker should it come down to either one of those two pairs of schools for the last spot.

Notably, this leaves 5-7 Kentucky and Texas, which could move move to 5-7 with an improbable win over Baylor, on the outside looking in.
11-30-2015 11:25 PM
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RE: Up to Five 5-7 teams Going to Bowl Games, Determined by APR
Could be up to 6, if certain teams decline bowls.
11-30-2015 11:27 PM
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Cajuns at ranked right behind Rice...so would be next up if any of those decline like Missouri.
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(11-30-2015 11:31 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Cajuns at ranked right behind Rice...so would be next up if any of those decline like Missouri.

You guys are 8th in APR. Missouri declined, so you're 7th. You would need Illinois and one more to decline, and then you would have to hope that Georgia State and South Alabama both lose.

Probably too much to ask, but I guess it's possible. Cure Bowl needs a team.
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(11-30-2015 11:31 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Cajuns at ranked right behind Rice...so would be next up if any of those decline like Missouri.

You are seriously excited about the prospect of bowling @ 5-7?

LOL.
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(11-30-2015 11:31 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Cajuns at ranked right behind Rice...so would be next up if any of those decline like Missouri.

A bowl game at 5-7.

I bet that would be a tough ticket to sell.
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(11-30-2015 11:37 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 11:31 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Cajuns at ranked right behind Rice...so would be next up if any of those decline like Missouri.

You guys are 8th in APR. Missouri declined, so you're 7th. You would need Illinois and one more to decline, and then you would have to hope that Georgia State and South Alabama both lose.

Probably too much to ask, but I guess it's possible. Cure Bowl needs a team.

I don't ever want to see a 5-7 A-State team accept a bid. Only possible exception would be if somehow we were conference champs with that record.
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(11-30-2015 11:31 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Cajuns at ranked right behind Rice...so would be next up if any of those decline like Missouri.

Well...I was speaking of bowl eligible teams declining...
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(11-30-2015 11:40 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 11:31 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Cajuns at ranked right behind Rice...so would be next up if any of those decline like Missouri.

You are seriously excited about the prospect of bowling @ 5-7?

LOL.
No, did I put smiley faces or exclamation points? Was simply stating where we were. I have mixed feelings honestly. You do get extra practice time which we could use, you get another game which we could use. We would probably lose our ass in money which we can't afford. I wouldn't want our players feeling rewarded after the way they performed.. I want it to sting and kill them watching everyone else go bowling while they sit at home. We went 40 years without a bowl, if we would somehow end up in one... I wouldn't exactly be pissed or anything.
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Won't surprise me if more teams opt out, especially the P5 schools that see it as a pity offering. I don't see G5 teams backing out, it could be an opportunity to play in one of the bigger bowls that we otherwise wouldn't have, even if the teams are less then desirable.

Be interesting to see how this all shakes out.
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Some of these ESPN created games need to go away and the record requirement changed to 7 wins. The 6 wins came about when we had 11 game schedules. Time to adjust.
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(12-01-2015 08:33 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  Some of these ESPN created games need to go away and the record requirement changed to 7 wins. The 6 wins came about when we had 11 game schedules. Time to adjust.

Guess which ones would be the first to go?
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(12-01-2015 08:33 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  Some of these ESPN created games need to go away and the record requirement changed to 7 wins. The 6 wins came about when we had 11 game schedules. Time to adjust.

I agree with this completely. I can remember the days of 8 win SEC teams not going bowling because there just weren't enough bowls. When bowl games were a reward for a good season. Need to get back to that. Would make for some much more interesting games.
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(12-01-2015 08:53 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  
(12-01-2015 08:33 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  Some of these ESPN created games need to go away and the record requirement changed to 7 wins. The 6 wins came about when we had 11 game schedules. Time to adjust.

Guess which ones would be the first to go?

As undeserving as many bowl teams are every season, I agree with Louisiana99. If they cut it down to 20-25 bowl games, I would have a sinking feeling that a 9-3 GS team (or a team with a similar record, but a third place finish in any G5) would be in danger of sitting at home while some trash 7-5 P5 team with more money and the ability to sell an extra ticket or two gets to keep playing.
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(12-01-2015 09:20 AM)CC Eagle Wrote:  
(12-01-2015 08:53 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  
(12-01-2015 08:33 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  Some of these ESPN created games need to go away and the record requirement changed to 7 wins. The 6 wins came about when we had 11 game schedules. Time to adjust.

Guess which ones would be the first to go?

As undeserving as many bowl teams are every season, I agree with Louisiana99. If they cut it down to 20-25 bowl games, I would have a sinking feeling that a 9-3 GS team (or a team with a similar record, but a third place finish in any G5) would be in danger of sitting at home while some trash 7-5 P5 team with more money and the ability to sell an extra ticket or two gets to keep playing.

That's exactly what would happen. Wasn't long ago only the SBC champion was guaranteed a bowl.
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(12-01-2015 09:10 AM)Usajags Wrote:  
(12-01-2015 08:33 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  Some of these ESPN created games need to go away and the record requirement changed to 7 wins. The 6 wins came about when we had 11 game schedules. Time to adjust.

I agree with this completely. I can remember the days of 8 win SEC teams not going bowling because there just weren't enough bowls. When bowl games were a reward for a good season. Need to get back to that. Would make for some much more interesting games.

How many teams were in FBS or D-1 back in the "good ol" days?
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Some Bowls are probably just about right for 5-7 teams.
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Here's the deal. We went 11-0 and no bowl once. Screw that.

No G5 fan should be advocating a bowl cutback because they will sit home at 9-2 and watch Iowa State bowl at 6-6.

That ain't fun.
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(12-01-2015 10:18 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  Here's the deal. We went 11-0 and no bowl once. Screw that.

No G5 fan should be advocating a bowl cutback because they will sit home at 9-2 and watch Iowa State bowl at 6-6.

That ain't fun.

The only way I would advocate a bowl cutback is that a team would have to be 7-5 to play in a bowl game. All bowl positions would have to be filled before a 6-6 team could be invited to play in a bowl game. If a 6-6 team made a conference championship game they would have to win that game to get to 7-6 to be selected to play in a bowl game.
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Here's the real kicker to me ... it's the P5 teams that are getting to 6 wins, but going 2-6 in conference play. Put some combination or overall/conference record restrictions on becoming bowl eligible
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