I would go with Knighten as MVP as stAte has gone on a tear since he returned healthy. Assuming the Wolves win this Saturday they are an undefeated Belt Champion, and that doesn't happen without Freddy K. Rings should count. Breidia, Arbuckle, Rose and Lamb also had great years.

(11-30-2015 01:57 PM)SpeedkingATL Wrote:  I would go with Knighten as MVP as stAte has gone on a tear since he returned healthy. Assuming the Wolves win this Saturday they are an undefeated Belt Champion, and that doesn't happen without Freddy K. Rings should count. Breidia, Arbuckle, Rose and Lamb also had great years.

Breida had better stats and th conference title and McGuire still won last year. I have no idea who will win with these voters.

(11-30-2015 12:29 PM)ApexRedWolf Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 11:53 AM)doberman Wrote:  I don't know the history regarding this award.....other than Aplin and Fredi seem to get it a bunch. Here's the question......has a defensive player ever won player of the year in the Sunbelt?

Here's the past winners.
No defensive player has ever won it...

2014 Elijah McGuire Louisiana
2012 Ryan Aplin Arkansas State
2011 Ryan Aplin Arkansas State
2010 T.Y. Hilton Florida International
2009 Levi Brown Troy
2008 Tyrell Fenroy Louisiana
2007 Rusty Smith Florida Atlantic
2006 Omar Haugabook Troy
2005 Steven Jyles ULM
2004 Jamario Thomas North Texas
2003 Brandon Kennedy North Texas
2002 Brandon Kennedy North Texas
2001 Wes Counts Middle Tennessee

Excuse me? Brandon Kennedy DID play defense...all the time!

(11-30-2015 02:08 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 01:57 PM)SpeedkingATL Wrote:  I would go with Knighten as MVP as stAte has gone on a tear since he returned healthy. Assuming the Wolves win this Saturday they are an undefeated Belt Champion, and that doesn't happen without Freddy K. Rings should count. Breidia, Arbuckle, Rose and Lamb also had great years.

Breida had better stats and th conference title and McGuire still won last year. I have no idea who will win with these voters.

It's not always about stats

(11-30-2015 02:15 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 02:08 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 01:57 PM)SpeedkingATL Wrote:  I would go with Knighten as MVP as stAte has gone on a tear since he returned healthy. Assuming the Wolves win this Saturday they are an undefeated Belt Champion, and that doesn't happen without Freddy K. Rings should count. Breidia, Arbuckle, Rose and Lamb also had great years.

Breida had better stats and th conference title and McGuire still won last year. I have no idea who will win with these voters.

It's not always about stats

Breida won the stats and the championship.

(11-30-2015 02:16 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 02:15 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 02:08 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 01:57 PM)SpeedkingATL Wrote:  I would go with Knighten as MVP as stAte has gone on a tear since he returned healthy. Assuming the Wolves win this Saturday they are an undefeated Belt Champion, and that doesn't happen without Freddy K. Rings should count. Breidia, Arbuckle, Rose and Lamb also had great years.

Breida had better stats and th conference title and McGuire still won last year. I have no idea who will win with these voters.

It's not always about stats

Breida won the stats and the championship.

I think GS would have won it without Breida, but that's just my oppinion

(11-30-2015 02:08 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 01:57 PM)SpeedkingATL Wrote:  I would go with Knighten as MVP as stAte has gone on a tear since he returned healthy. Assuming the Wolves win this Saturday they are an undefeated Belt Champion, and that doesn't happen without Freddy K. Rings should count. Breidia, Arbuckle, Rose and Lamb also had great years.

Breida had better stats and th conference title and McGuire still won last year. I have no idea who will win with these voters.

Breida would have been my choice last year too.

(11-30-2015 02:18 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 02:16 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 02:15 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 02:08 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 01:57 PM)SpeedkingATL Wrote:  I would go with Knighten as MVP as stAte has gone on a tear since he returned healthy. Assuming the Wolves win this Saturday they are an undefeated Belt Champion, and that doesn't happen without Freddy K. Rings should count. Breidia, Arbuckle, Rose and Lamb also had great years.

Breida had better stats and th conference title and McGuire still won last year. I have no idea who will win with these voters.

It's not always about stats

Breida won the stats and the championship.

I think GS would have won it without Breida, but that's just my oppinion

Breida led the Eagles to another highly successful season. ULL fell off big time even with McGuire. Maybe he wasn't the reason, but clearly there were other pieces more important than him.

(11-30-2015 02:31 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 02:18 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 02:16 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 02:15 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 02:08 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Breida had better stats and th conference title and McGuire still won last year. I have no idea who will win with these voters.

It's not always about stats

Breida won the stats and the championship.

I think GS would have won it without Breida, but that's just my oppinion

Breida led the Eagles to another highly successful season. ULL fell off big time even with McGuire. Maybe he wasn't the reason, but clearly there were other pieces more important than him.

I'm not even arguing that Breida didn't deserve it, he certainly did. But there are other players that I thought deserved it just a bit more last year, McGuire being one of them. We played against both, and I am still impressed with McGuire. If you take him out of the game, they struggle (see Fournette at LSU). Take Breida out, not a huge drop off. This is all just my personal oppinion.

(11-30-2015 01:57 PM)SpeedkingATL Wrote:  I would go with Knighten as MVP as stAte has gone on a tear since he returned healthy. Assuming the Wolves win this Saturday they are an undefeated Belt Champion, and that doesn't happen without Freddy K. Rings should count. Breidia, Arbuckle, Rose and Lamb also had great years.

I think Knighten should be in the conversation (especially since he's played in less than 75% of our games this year and is still lighting it up) but is behind LR3, Arbuckle, and Brieda.

(11-30-2015 02:10 PM)Cajunjudo Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 12:29 PM)ApexRedWolf Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 11:53 AM)doberman Wrote:  I don't know the history regarding this award.....other than Aplin and Fredi seem to get it a bunch. Here's the question......has a defensive player ever won player of the year in the Sunbelt?

Here's the past winners.
No defensive player has ever won it...

2014 Elijah McGuire Louisiana
2012 Ryan Aplin Arkansas State
2011 Ryan Aplin Arkansas State
2010 T.Y. Hilton Florida International
2009 Levi Brown Troy
2008 Tyrell Fenroy Louisiana
2007 Rusty Smith Florida Atlantic
2006 Omar Haugabook Troy
2005 Steven Jyles ULM
2004 Jamario Thomas North Texas
2003 Brandon Kennedy North Texas
2002 Brandon Kennedy North Texas
2001 Wes Counts Middle Tennessee

Excuse me? Brandon Kennedy DID play defense...all the time!

hahaha! Youre right. For some reason, my brain substituted Patrick Cobbs for Brandon Kennedy. Shows you how much I was paying attention... As a Astate fan, I think we've all received brain damage from those years.

(11-30-2015 02:08 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 01:57 PM)SpeedkingATL Wrote:  I would go with Knighten as MVP as stAte has gone on a tear since he returned healthy. Assuming the Wolves win this Saturday they are an undefeated Belt Champion, and that doesn't happen without Freddy K. Rings should count. Breidia, Arbuckle, Rose and Lamb also had great years.

Breida had better stats and th conference title and McGuire still won last year. I have no idea who will win with these voters.

You mean the people who handle players for a living? I guess they should just let Georgia southern message board posters vote to get a truly unbiased opinion? Conference title shouldn't matter, just as being on a lesser team shouldn't matter.... Rose doesn't play defense, he can only control his job and he sure does that. Must be strange to wake up thinking the whole world is the boogey man out to get you. By your analogy, Breida doesn't deserve it this year because you didn't win the conference.

(11-30-2015 03:36 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 02:08 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 01:57 PM)SpeedkingATL Wrote:  I would go with Knighten as MVP as stAte has gone on a tear since he returned healthy. Assuming the Wolves win this Saturday they are an undefeated Belt Champion, and that doesn't happen without Freddy K. Rings should count. Breidia, Arbuckle, Rose and Lamb also had great years.

Breida had better stats and th conference title and McGuire still won last year. I have no idea who will win with these voters.

You mean the people who handle players for a living? I guess they should just let Georgia southern message board posters vote to get a truly unbiased opinion? Conference title shouldn't matter, just as being on a lesser team shouldn't matter.... Rose doesn't play defense, he can only control his job and he sure does that. Must be strange to wake up thinking the whole world is the boogey man out to get you. By your analogy, Breida doesn't deserve it this year because you didn't win the conference.

Lol my coffee went up my nose .

(11-30-2015 03:36 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 02:08 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 01:57 PM)SpeedkingATL Wrote:  I would go with Knighten as MVP as stAte has gone on a tear since he returned healthy. Assuming the Wolves win this Saturday they are an undefeated Belt Champion, and that doesn't happen without Freddy K. Rings should count. Breidia, Arbuckle, Rose and Lamb also had great years.

Breida had better stats and th conference title and McGuire still won last year. I have no idea who will win with these voters.

You mean the people who handle players for a living? I guess they should just let Georgia southern message board posters vote to get a truly unbiased opinion? Conference title shouldn't matter, just as being on a lesser team shouldn't matter.... Rose doesn't play defense, he can only control his job and he sure does that. Must be strange to wake up thinking the whole world is the boogey man out to get you. By your analogy, Breida doesn't deserve it this year because you didn't win the conference.

Are you this dense? No where did he say anything that you are implying. He used last year's winner to show that an undefeated belt champion with the stats is not a given for the award. The southern bias on here is absurd. To use your statement, every Ga Southern fan is not the boogey man.

(11-30-2015 02:41 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 02:31 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 02:18 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 02:16 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 02:15 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  It's not always about stats

Breida won the stats and the championship.

I think GS would have won it without Breida, but that's just my oppinion

Breida led the Eagles to another highly successful season. ULL fell off big time even with McGuire. Maybe he wasn't the reason, but clearly there were other pieces more important than him.

I'm not even arguing that Breida didn't deserve it, he certainly did. But there are other players that I thought deserved it just a bit more last year, McGuire being one of them. We played against both, and I am still impressed with McGuire. If you take him out of the game, they struggle (see Fournette at LSU). Take Breida out, not a huge drop off. This is all just my personal oppinion.

That's a silly argument. You can't punish a kid because he has good teammates.

I'll be shocked if Knighten doesn't win it. He's the best player on the #1 team which just happens to be one of the few long standing teams left in the conference. Arbuckle and Rose won't win it because their teams are (likely) both under .500 this year. That leaves Brieda and Lamb as the other contenders to go with Knighten. I still believe the voters favor the old timers just a bit over the young guys.

(11-30-2015 10:38 PM)JTApps1 Wrote:  I'll be shocked if Knighten doesn't win it. He's the best player on the #1 team which just happens to be one of the few long standing teams left in the conference. Arbuckle and Rose won't win it because their teams are (likely) both under .500 this year. That leaves Brieda and Lamb as the other contenders to go with Knighten. I still believe the voters favor the old timers just a bit over the young guys.

If I had a vote it would be Rose.

(11-30-2015 10:17 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 03:36 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 02:08 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 01:57 PM)SpeedkingATL Wrote:  I would go with Knighten as MVP as stAte has gone on a tear since he returned healthy. Assuming the Wolves win this Saturday they are an undefeated Belt Champion, and that doesn't happen without Freddy K. Rings should count. Breidia, Arbuckle, Rose and Lamb also had great years.

Breida had better stats and th conference title and McGuire still won last year. I have no idea who will win with these voters.

You mean the people who handle players for a living? I guess they should just let Georgia southern message board posters vote to get a truly unbiased opinion? Conference title shouldn't matter, just as being on a lesser team shouldn't matter.... Rose doesn't play defense, he can only control his job and he sure does that. Must be strange to wake up thinking the whole world is the boogey man out to get you. By your analogy, Breida doesn't deserve it this year because you didn't win the conference.

Are you this dense? No where did he say anything that you are implying. He used last year's winner to show that an undefeated belt champion with the stats is not a given for the award. The southern bias on here is absurd. To use your statement, every Ga Southern fan is not the boogey man.

If you can say that with a straight face in regards to his post and the voters, you are the dense one.

(11-30-2015 10:28 PM)TheMackAttack Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 02:41 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 02:31 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 02:18 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 02:16 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Breida won the stats and the championship.

I think GS would have won it without Breida, but that's just my oppinion

Breida led the Eagles to another highly successful season. ULL fell off big time even with McGuire. Maybe he wasn't the reason, but clearly there were other pieces more important than him.

I'm not even arguing that Breida didn't deserve it, he certainly did. But there are other players that I thought deserved it just a bit more last year, McGuire being one of them. We played against both, and I am still impressed with McGuire. If you take him out of the game, they struggle (see Fournette at LSU). Take Breida out, not a huge drop off. This is all just my personal oppinion.

That's a silly argument. You can't punish a kid because he has good teammates.

They punish kids with bad teammates all the time and they shouldn't. The championship goes to the team who had the best year, the award should go to the player who had the best season, regardless of his teams record.

(11-30-2015 11:01 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 10:17 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 03:36 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 02:08 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(11-30-2015 01:57 PM)SpeedkingATL Wrote:  I would go with Knighten as MVP as stAte has gone on a tear since he returned healthy. Assuming the Wolves win this Saturday they are an undefeated Belt Champion, and that doesn't happen without Freddy K. Rings should count. Breidia, Arbuckle, Rose and Lamb also had great years.

Breida had better stats and th conference title and McGuire still won last year. I have no idea who will win with these voters.

You mean the people who handle players for a living? I guess they should just let Georgia southern message board posters vote to get a truly unbiased opinion? Conference title shouldn't matter, just as being on a lesser team shouldn't matter.... Rose doesn't play defense, he can only control his job and he sure does that. Must be strange to wake up thinking the whole world is the boogey man out to get you. By your analogy, Breida doesn't deserve it this year because you didn't win the conference.

Are you this dense? No where did he say anything that you are implying. He used last year's winner to show that an undefeated belt champion with the stats is not a given for the award. The southern bias on here is absurd. To use your statement, every Ga Southern fan is not the boogey man.

If you can say that with a straight face in regards to his post and the voters, you are the dense one.

No, you are reading into something that isn't there.