So after their win today the LSU hierarchy says "Miles is our coach". After the crap they put him through I wouldn't stay.

LSU Football ‏@LSUfball 1h1 hour ago
"I want to make it clear that Les Miles is our football coach and will continue to be our football coach," #LSU AD Joe Alleva said.
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Joe Schad ‏@schadjoe 10m10 minutes ago
LSU decision makers felt media had swayed public and if Les Miles was fired school would have appeared mean-spirited, per source

Joe Schad ‏@schadjoe 11m11 minutes ago
Decision to retain Les Miles was made in meeting of LSU decision makers during 3rd quarter of tonight’s game, per source



What a circus.

(11-28-2015 08:56 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 08:52 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Dan Wolken reporting Blake Anderson wants the Memphis job.

I'm thinking that a Memphis made rumor. I just don't see the draw. Anderson ain't about money....as far as the minimal increase Memphis would afford him. If he moves, it'll be a big school

So a million+ more a year is minimal?

Memphis's coach made 1.4 last year with a bonus of 235k

Blake Anderson made $700,000

It's ALWAYS about the money

I believe Blake Anderson has a sliding buyout that started at 3mil but drops a million after two years of coaching at ASU and drops to 1 million after 3 or 4 years

(11-29-2015 01:16 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 08:56 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 08:52 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Dan Wolken reporting Blake Anderson wants the Memphis job.

I'm thinking that a Memphis made rumor. I just don't see the draw. Anderson ain't about money....as far as the minimal increase Memphis would afford him. If he moves, it'll be a big school

So a million+ more a year is minimal?

Memphis's coach made 1.4 last year with a bonus of 235k

Blake Anderson made $700,000

It's ALWAYS about the money

I believe Blake Anderson has a sliding buyout that started at 3mil but drops a million after two years of coaching at ASU and drops to 1 million after 3 or 4 years

It's a lateral move..no doubt we could match Memphis money.

(11-29-2015 01:34 AM)RustonCAT Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 01:16 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 08:56 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 08:52 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Dan Wolken reporting Blake Anderson wants the Memphis job.

I'm thinking that a Memphis made rumor. I just don't see the draw. Anderson ain't about money....as far as the minimal increase Memphis would afford him. If he moves, it'll be a big school

So a million+ more a year is minimal?

Memphis's coach made 1.4 last year with a bonus of 235k

Blake Anderson made $700,000

It's ALWAYS about the money

I believe Blake Anderson has a sliding buyout that started at 3mil but drops a million after two years of coaching at ASU and drops to 1 million after 3 or 4 years

It's a lateral move..no doubt we could match Memphis money.

One thing I'm 100% sure of ASU is not matching Memphis's money on paying a football coach.

ASU will be more than happy to take their 2 or 3 million dollar check and look for another coach if it comes to that. Coaching has become a money maker for ASU...free coaching and still have a mil or so left over. Beat a bodybag game, right?

(11-29-2015 01:47 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 01:34 AM)RustonCAT Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 01:16 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 08:56 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 08:52 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Dan Wolken reporting Blake Anderson wants the Memphis job.

I'm thinking that a Memphis made rumor. I just don't see the draw. Anderson ain't about money....as far as the minimal increase Memphis would afford him. If he moves, it'll be a big school

So a million+ more a year is minimal?

Memphis's coach made 1.4 last year with a bonus of 235k

Blake Anderson made $700,000

It's ALWAYS about the money

I believe Blake Anderson has a sliding buyout that started at 3mil but drops a million after two years of coaching at ASU and drops to 1 million after 3 or 4 years

It's a lateral move..no doubt we could match Memphis money.

One thing I'm 100% sure of ASU is not matching Memphis's money on paying a football coach.

ASU will be more than happy to take their 2 or 3 million dollar check and look for another coach if it comes to that. Coaching has become a money maker for ASU...free coaching and still have a mil or so left over. Beat a bodybag game, right?

Can and want to are 2 very different issues

But:
1. Memphis will not be all that interested in Anderson.
2. Anderson won't be all that interested
3. Money won't be any different. Memphis isn't a rich donor school. They will struggle to get into then upper Million dollar range for significant amounts of time.
4. Memphis is a stepping stone...why go from one to the other when this one has gotten guys into Auburn, Ole miss and Boise

(11-29-2015 01:16 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 08:56 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 08:52 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Dan Wolken reporting Blake Anderson wants the Memphis job.

I'm thinking that a Memphis made rumor. I just don't see the draw. Anderson ain't about money....as far as the minimal increase Memphis would afford him. If he moves, it'll be a big school

So a million+ more a year is minimal?

Memphis's coach made 1.4 last year with a bonus of 235k

Blake Anderson made $700,000

It's ALWAYS about the money

I believe Blake Anderson has a sliding buyout that started at 3mil but drops a million after two years of coaching at ASU and drops to 1 million after 3 or 4 years

Malzahn was $850,00 at A-State in 2011. Just because we pay Anderson $700,000 doesn't mean its the most we can pay. Anderson didn't have Malzahn's cred and started at less.

If our max in 2011 was $850,000 it is assuredly more than that now.

(11-29-2015 01:56 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 01:16 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 08:56 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 08:52 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Dan Wolken reporting Blake Anderson wants the Memphis job.

I'm thinking that a Memphis made rumor. I just don't see the draw. Anderson ain't about money....as far as the minimal increase Memphis would afford him. If he moves, it'll be a big school

So a million+ more a year is minimal?

Memphis's coach made 1.4 last year with a bonus of 235k

Blake Anderson made $700,000

It's ALWAYS about the money

I believe Blake Anderson has a sliding buyout that started at 3mil but drops a million after two years of coaching at ASU and drops to 1 million after 3 or 4 years

Malzahn was $850,00 at A-State in 2011. Just because we pay Anderson $700,000 doesn't mean its the most we can pay. Anderson didn't have Malzahn's cred and started at less.

If our max in 2011 was $850,000 it is assuredly more than that now.

There becomes a point where the risk out weights the reward in paying a football coach at our level (I feel this way about Western and Brohm also) . Even if one of our schools agrees to pay the max we can afford it will be 1.5 to 2 million. At that not one of us can really afford it but if we did...

it's still not enough to keep that coach at ASU/WKU if someone wants him

But what it does is puts us at risk of having no choice but keeping the coach if he happens to lose and lose...till it sets the program back 5 years. NONE of us can afford a set back like that..after winning.

That type of money is also going to limit the amount we can afford to pay other coaches like basketball (for Western) or the OC/DC. Everytime I see a school over spend on coach thinking they will keep him..

It reminds me of S. Ill in basketball. It's taking them almost 10 years to recover from a stupid mistake of locking in a basketball coach to a big contract with a huge buyout for the school...

they couldn't afford it so they waited 2 or 3 years longer than they probably would have to buy him out. The sad thing is they gave him the contract because he won..with another coaches talent. They didn't wait to see if he could do it with his own players.

We are having this same topic with Brohm ...it's been said Western has a big donor(s) will to pay up in the mid 2 million range. As a fan I want Brohm at Western forever. But not if it puts us at risk and not just football. I think it's safe to say none of us have many donors waiting in line to put out 2 million a year for our schools. So while it sounds great someone is willing to step up like that....

I think it also limits future big donations while this contract is being paid. But if you kept a coach that can win 9+ games each year and play for conference championships... that in itself will bring in more donations. Not the 2mil range but people donate more whe you are winning. So I see both sides. I just don't think it's worth the risk

Might not be. But again I highly doubt any coach would makes this lateral move unless ship is sinking fast and it's not. Fuente and Anderson are prolly alike...want A P5 school Next. Memphis clearly isn't a P5 school

(11-29-2015 01:47 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 01:34 AM)RustonCAT Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 01:16 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 08:56 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 08:52 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Dan Wolken reporting Blake Anderson wants the Memphis job.

I'm thinking that a Memphis made rumor. I just don't see the draw. Anderson ain't about money....as far as the minimal increase Memphis would afford him. If he moves, it'll be a big school

So a million+ more a year is minimal?

Memphis's coach made 1.4 last year with a bonus of 235k

Blake Anderson made $700,000

It's ALWAYS about the money

I believe Blake Anderson has a sliding buyout that started at 3mil but drops a million after two years of coaching at ASU and drops to 1 million after 3 or 4 years

It's a lateral move..no doubt we could match Memphis money.

One thing I'm 100% sure of ASU is not matching Memphis's money on paying a football coach.

ASU will be more than happy to take their 2 or 3 million dollar check and look for another coach if it comes to that. Coaching has become a money maker for ASU...free coaching and still have a mil or so left over. Beat a bodybag game, right?

We could easily match what Memphis pays currently without issue, however, we would never actually pay that salary for a football coach because we're confident we could easily hire a replacement just as capable, and could coach for far less, allowing us to invest the buyout.

(11-29-2015 02:17 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 01:56 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 01:16 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 08:56 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 08:52 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Dan Wolken reporting Blake Anderson wants the Memphis job.

I'm thinking that a Memphis made rumor. I just don't see the draw. Anderson ain't about money....as far as the minimal increase Memphis would afford him. If he moves, it'll be a big school

So a million+ more a year is minimal?

Memphis's coach made 1.4 last year with a bonus of 235k

Blake Anderson made $700,000

It's ALWAYS about the money

I believe Blake Anderson has a sliding buyout that started at 3mil but drops a million after two years of coaching at ASU and drops to 1 million after 3 or 4 years

Malzahn was $850,00 at A-State in 2011. Just because we pay Anderson $700,000 doesn't mean its the most we can pay. Anderson didn't have Malzahn's cred and started at less.

If our max in 2011 was $850,000 it is assuredly more than that now.

There becomes a point where the risk out weights the reward in paying a football coach at our level (I feel this way about Western and Brohm also) . Even if one of our schools agrees to pay the max we can afford it will be 1.5 to 2 million. At that not one of us can really afford it but if we did...

it's still not enough to keep that coach at ASU/WKU if someone wants him

But what it does is puts us at risk of having no choice but keeping the coach if he happens to lose and lose...till it sets the program back 5 years. NONE of us can afford a set back like that..after winning.

That type of money is also going to limit the amount we can afford to pay other coaches like basketball (for Western) or the OC/DC. Everytime I see a school over spend on coach thinking they will keep him..

It reminds me of S. Ill in basketball. It's taking them almost 10 years to recover from a stupid mistake of locking in a basketball coach to a big contract with a huge buyout for the school...

they couldn't afford it so they waited 2 or 3 years longer than they probably would have to buy him out. The sad thing is they gave him the contract because he won..with another coaches talent. They didn't wait to see if he could do it with his own players.

We are having this same topic with Brohm ...it's been said Western has a big donor(s) will to pay up in the mid 2 million range. As a fan I want Brohm at Western forever. But not if it puts us at risk and not just football. I think it's safe to say none of us have many donors waiting in line to put out 2 million a year for our schools. So while it sounds great someone is willing to step up like that....

I think it also limits future big donations while this contract is being paid. But if you kept a coach that can win 9+ games each year and play for conference championships... that in itself will bring in more donations. Not the 2mil range but people donate more whe you are winning. So I see both sides. I just don't think it's worth the risk

Yeah, I agree with a lot of that. It's a tough balance beam to walk. We took that sort of risk with the buyout. Yeah, we put a big buyout on Anderson...but that can also work the other way.

You could say we have Brady this year in basketball for that reason.

By the way, I also agree that Anderson is floating this out there because he knows that it will be far harder for us to keep our assistants this time around. He's angling for more money, that he could invest to pay to keep a couple guys.

Knowing his personality, I don't think Anderson cares as much about the raise as he does making sure his staff is taken care of.

I'm not disagreeing with you on Memphis the odds are just as good you will fail as win. But money talks and while Memphis might not have P5 money they got money. Most of our budgets will be in the mid to high 20 million range. Memphis is in the 50 million and they are pulling in 20 million a years in tickets sold and contributions.

I really don't think Memphis would buyout a 3million dollar contract and give a coach a couple million but they got money or could get it if they really wanted the coach.

(11-29-2015 02:33 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  I'm not disagreeing with you on Memphis the odds are just as good you will fail as win. But money talks and while Memphis might not have P5 money they got money. Most of our budgets will be in the mid to high 20 million range. Memphis is in the 50 million and they are pulling in 20 million a years in tickets sold and contributions.

I really don't think Memphis would buyout a 3million dollar contract and give a coach a couple million but they got money or could get it if they really wanted the coach.

That's the point though. We know we can match what Memphis is paying Fuente because we've offered that to potential applicants before. We also know that with a 3 million dollar buyout, it means Memphis would need to make a roughly 6-6.5 million dollar investment by the time you paid assistant salaries.

That's a lot of money to pay for a Sun Belt Coach at a rival school, who you recruit against daily. That's not even taking into account that it forces Memphis to basically admit we've done a great job to get where we are, something I don't think they are ready to do yet.

With most of us (probably all) politics will play a role in how much we pay our coaches. Western can't get away with paying millions like UofL or uk. The state schools have more clout with the media where the papers would eat Western alive if we pay Brohm 2 million dollars even if it's donations. Student fees and tuition keeps going up and all of us are reaching the bubble on that.

Western would get pounded in the local and state papers and local tv

Memphis has more $$ and can pay more than stAte.

If Anderson or his agent is playing games for more $$, good for them. I think stAte will give him a decent raise and also throw in some $$ for his assistants. They deserve it. However much they raise his salary, they should tack the same amount on the buy out over the next couple of years.

(11-29-2015 09:17 AM)Rik Flair Wrote:  However much they raise his salary, they should tack the same amount on the buy out over the next couple of years.

He probably wouldn't go for that. It also might be counter-productive.

If his dream is really a P5 job...help him and his people get it next year. Far better to have a reputation of helping head coaches achieve their personal goals than a reputation of trying to hold them back.

(11-29-2015 02:41 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  With most of us (probably all) politics will play a role in how much we pay our coaches. Western can't get away with paying millions like UofL or uk. The state schools have more clout with the media where the papers would eat Western alive if we pay Brohm 2 million dollars even if it's donations. Student fees and tuition keeps going up and all of us are reaching the bubble on that.

Western would get pounded in the local and state papers and local tv

Politics is everything in coaching searches. For instance, we know that Arkansas will never hire a sitting head coach at Arkansas State for any of its jobs because that would mean they would be forced to both acknowledge our existence, and our advances in recent years.

We're not under a lot of pressure as it is because we're mostly ignored, and we've taken control of Jonesboro media. The Pressure on us would probably the opposite of WKU. If Memphis came after Anderson, there would be a lot of pressure on Mohajir to offer the money necessary to hold them off. Big difference here is that outside of the 160K that Arkansas law allows us to pay someone out of public funds, any money we pay must come from private funds.

(11-29-2015 11:40 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  For instance, we know that Arkansas will never hire a sitting head coach at Arkansas State for any of its jobs because that would mean they would be forced to both acknowledge our existence, and our advances in recent years.

They've done it before.

(11-29-2015 11:44 AM)asuwon Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 11:40 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  For instance, we know that Arkansas will never hire a sitting head coach at Arkansas State for any of its jobs because that would mean they would be forced to both acknowledge our existence, and our advances in recent years.

They've done it before.

And they probably won't do it again for awhile in the public climate here.

Satterfield and Fritz being named as possibilities at Tulane and Satterfield possibility at Virginia