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To the Moderator: I dissent
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/stude...y-35110938

There is a trend starting. The free exchange of information is essential among the William and Mary community.

Our football team wears "1693" on their helmets. Our athletic nickname is the Tribe, not for Indians, but for all members of the William and Mary community, presumably including dead ones. Our athletics TV promotional video used to show TJ's statue wearing sunglasses. When I root for William and Mary athletes, I root for them and what W&M stands for, including being the college of three Presidents. It is the "Alma Mater of a Nation".

TJ's statue was a gift from UVA on the school's 300th birthday. How many times have all of us gone to that statue? It is as much a part of W&M as the Wren Building or Cary / Zable, albeit younger.

It is a potential target in today's environment.

Respectfully, banishing posts expressing concerns about the statue to the off topic forum because it does not relate to William and Mary athletics is misguided, IMO, because the "William and Mary" before "athletics" does stand for something.

I have a wall poster from W&M that contains a quote from TJ which basically states that folks at W&M are willing to tolerate error as long as reason is available to combat same.

I dissent from your banishment of the TJ threads to the off-topic section.
11-11-2015 06:18 PM
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RE: To the Moderator: I dissent
(11-11-2015 06:18 PM)nj alum Wrote:  http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/stude...y-35110938

There is a trend starting. The free exchange of information is essential among the William and Mary community.

Our football team wears "1693" on their helmets. Our athletic nickname is the Tribe, not for Indians, but for all members of the William and Mary community, presumably including dead ones. Our athletics TV promotional video used to show TJ's statue wearing sunglasses. When I root for William and Mary athletes, I root for them and what W&M stands for, including being the college of three Presidents. It is the "Alma Mater of a Nation".

TJ's statue was a gift from UVA on the school's 300th birthday. How many times have all of us gone to that statue? It is as much a part of W&M as the Wren Building or Cary / Zable, albeit younger.

It is a potential target in today's environment.

Respectfully, banishing posts expressing concerns about the statue to the off topic forum because it does not relate to William and Mary athletics is misguided, IMO, because the "William and Mary" before "athletics" does stand for something.

I have a wall poster from W&M that contains a quote from TJ which basically states that folks at W&M are willing to tolerate error as long as reason is available to combat same.

I dissent from your banishment of the TJ threads to the off-topic section.

People are "banished" to life in Siberian prison camps. The divisive, politically-charged, and increasingly partisan thread pertaining to sticky notes on the TJ statue was "moved" to a highly visible off-topic thread at the very top of the home page, where anyone so inclined can easily join the debate.

I get and appreciate your desire to not have debate about any topic related to WM limited in any way, but I think there are a number of folks, myself included, who tire of endless politics and how it seemingly seeps into every aspect of our lives (including non-political threads on this board). I'm political and engaged, but sports is a outlet and a diversion from all the other stresses in life. This a sports discussion board, I think its appropriate to have a separate space for subjects related to WM, but completely unrelated to Tribe sports.

My non-mod 2 scents.
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RE: To the Moderator: I dissent
The thread that I started on 7/23/15 remained on the main board where it was until yesterday, when it was moved with the other thread to "Siberia".

What changed yesterday?
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(11-11-2015 06:51 PM)WMTribe90 Wrote:  
(11-11-2015 06:18 PM)nj alum Wrote:  http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/stude...y-35110938

There is a trend starting. The free exchange of information is essential among the William and Mary community.

Our football team wears "1693" on their helmets. Our athletic nickname is the Tribe, not for Indians, but for all members of the William and Mary community, presumably including dead ones. Our athletics TV promotional video used to show TJ's statue wearing sunglasses. When I root for William and Mary athletes, I root for them and what W&M stands for, including being the college of three Presidents. It is the "Alma Mater of a Nation".

TJ's statue was a gift from UVA on the school's 300th birthday. How many times have all of us gone to that statue? It is as much a part of W&M as the Wren Building or Cary / Zable, albeit younger.

It is a potential target in today's environment.

Respectfully, banishing posts expressing concerns about the statue to the off topic forum because it does not relate to William and Mary athletics is misguided, IMO, because the "William and Mary" before "athletics" does stand for something.

I have a wall poster from W&M that contains a quote from TJ which basically states that folks at W&M are willing to tolerate error as long as reason is available to combat same.

I dissent from your banishment of the TJ threads to the off-topic section.

People are "banished" to life in Siberian prison camps. The divisive, politically-charged, and increasingly partisan thread pertaining to sticky notes on the TJ statue was "moved" to a highly visible off-topic thread at the very top of the home page, where anyone so inclined can easily join the debate.

I get and appreciate your desire to not have debate about any topic related to WM limited in any way, but I think there are a number of folks, myself included, who tire of endless politics and how it seemingly seeps into every aspect of our lives (including non-political threads on this board). I'm political and engaged, but sports is a outlet and a diversion from all the other stresses in life. This a sports discussion board, I think its appropriate to have a separate space for subjects related to WM, but completely unrelated to Tribe sports.

My non-mod 2 scents.

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RE: To the Moderator: I dissent
(11-11-2015 07:02 PM)nj alum Wrote:  The thread that I started on 7/23/15 remained on the main board where it was until yesterday, when it was moved with the other thread to "Siberia".

What changed yesterday?

The board policy regarding off-topic threads.
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RE: To the Moderator: I dissent
Wait..this board has a moderator?
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RE: To the Moderator: I dissent
(11-11-2015 07:05 PM)WMTribe90 Wrote:  
(11-11-2015 07:02 PM)nj alum Wrote:  The thread that I started on 7/23/15 remained on the main board where it was until yesterday, when it was moved with the other thread to "Siberia".

What changed yesterday?

The board policy regarding off-topic threads.

Care to point me in the direction of this board policy that changed yesterday?
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To the Moderator: I dissent
I strongly approve of the move to the OT sub-forum.
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(11-11-2015 07:21 PM)nj alum Wrote:  
(11-11-2015 07:05 PM)WMTribe90 Wrote:  
(11-11-2015 07:02 PM)nj alum Wrote:  The thread that I started on 7/23/15 remained on the main board where it was until yesterday, when it was moved with the other thread to "Siberia".

What changed yesterday?

The board policy regarding off-topic threads.

Care to point me in the direction of this board policy that changed yesterday?

Nothing changed yesterday, NJA. Your 23 July thread was moved yesterday because you entered a new post on that thread yesterday, thus bringing it to the top of our forum. It wasn't banished to the OT forum in July because we didn't have an OT forum until 17 September. The site admin added the OT forum, at my request, because people generally come here to discuss only Tribe Athletics. When the OT forum was added, I didn't go back to find every OT thread over the past year and move them because I'm lazy.

What I can tell you, for a fact, is I didn't move it to censor you and others. If anything, I did it to give people like you a place to discuss stickynotegate without interference.

By the way, CSNBBS has whole forums to discuss politics, current events, movies, gaming, sex, etc to afford people an opportunity to discuss those topics away from conference or school forums.


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RE: To the Moderator: I dissent
Tribal-

Thanks for the explanation.

I'm too lazy to go to Siberia.

There's a grey area here that I think you are missing.

First, if the topic offends, doesn't interest, etc. ... just don't read it. Banishment to Siberia is harsh.

Second, personally, I think TJ's statue is more interesting and pertinent than threads calling for the firing of Shaver and Laycock.

Third, and this is off the wall, but guess where I go to get accurate weather forecasts for the Jersey Shore? The Rutgers Rivals football board where a couple of amateur weather guys are fantastic ... has nothing to do with Rutgers athletics, but it is on the football board and is very informative.

Finally, the whole Nichol / cross thing was played out on the predecessor board, and not sure Siberia would have been the place for that.

Anyway, thanks for your good intentions, and here's hoping that TJ gets left alone.
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RE: To the Moderator: I dissent
I'll add my agreement with others here. It's not banishment, it's a move to an appropriate section of the board. While it has everything to do with W&M, it has little to do with W&M athletics. Good move, Tribal.
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