Just so we're clear, a former App coach is now the Interim head coach at South Carolina...and a former AState coach is now the Interim head Coach at Southern California.

The ASU's are taking over the College Football World!

(10-15-2015 01:12 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-14-2015 07:46 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  I agree with T Dog. Shawn is a firey and emotional coach. His personality is perfect as a OL coach or D Coordinator (he played DL at App). I've known Shawn a long time and although we've had our differences I really like him as a person. However, he is not someone I would want as a head coach at App. I prefer the calm personality of Satterfield for a HC. He projects a sense of having everything under contol and there is no panic to him. Scott was always cool under pressure as our QB and pulled out some big games. You guys can have Elliot, we'll keep Scott.

I remember at Fan Fest one year in front of 10,000 people I could hear Elliot yelling at a player from all the way across the field. That is something I will never forget. Wouldn't be surprised to see him pull Trey Elder from Western to OC if he does get the job though.

That would be something considering Trey is no longer at Western, he's a HS head coach.

I get the point people are making about fiery coaches not having the right temperment to be head coaches, Muschamp comes to mind. But on the other hand, several fiery coaches and disciplinarians have been successful over the years. Nick Saban yells at his players and doesn't put up with nonsense. Jeff Monken was known to be fiery and he turned our program around. Bo Pelini had a stretch of success at Nebraska and might still be there if he hadn't stuck his foot in his mouth a few times. Even Jim McElwain turned around Florida's season after chewing out Kelvin Taylor. Right now, Georgia State needs a culture change. Shawn Elliott could be the guy that they need to correct all of the bad habits that Panthers players have picked up. He has a winning pedigree from App State and USC, as well as recruiting ties. Right now Georgia State could use some fire to shake things up.

(10-15-2015 01:07 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  

(10-15-2015 12:58 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  So does that make you feel better or worse.

We know what hole we are in. I'd rather know we could afford who we need than be attractive to who we need but not be able to afford him.

If nobody wants the job, what difference does it make? Can you afford a good coach, yes. Can you attract a good coach, doubtful.

(10-15-2015 01:38 PM)T-Dog Wrote:  

(10-15-2015 01:12 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-14-2015 07:46 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  I agree with T Dog. Shawn is a firey and emotional coach. His personality is perfect as a OL coach or D Coordinator (he played DL at App). I've known Shawn a long time and although we've had our differences I really like him as a person. However, he is not someone I would want as a head coach at App. I prefer the calm personality of Satterfield for a HC. He projects a sense of having everything under contol and there is no panic to him. Scott was always cool under pressure as our QB and pulled out some big games. You guys can have Elliot, we'll keep Scott.

I remember at Fan Fest one year in front of 10,000 people I could hear Elliot yelling at a player from all the way across the field. That is something I will never forget. Wouldn't be surprised to see him pull Trey Elder from Western to OC if he does get the job though.

That would be something considering Trey is no longer at Western, he's a HS head coach.

Well, I don't exactly follow Western's football program. My apologies.

(10-15-2015 02:01 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(10-15-2015 01:07 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  

(10-15-2015 12:58 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  So does that make you feel better or worse.

We know what hole we are in. I'd rather know we could afford who we need than be attractive to who we need but not be able to afford him.

If nobody wants the job, what difference does it make? Can you afford a good coach, yes. Can you attract a good coach, doubtful.

If you can't afford him, you can't hire him. We'll see who we get.

(10-15-2015 02:07 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  

(10-15-2015 02:01 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(10-15-2015 01:07 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  [quote='Saint3333' pid='12503358' dateline='1444931921']
So does that make you feel better or worse.

We know what hole we are in. I'd rather know we could afford who we need than be attractive to who we need but not be able to afford him.

If nobody wants the job, what difference does it make? Can you afford a good coach, yes. Can you attract a good coach, doubtful.

If you can't afford him, you can't hire him. We'll see who we get.
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I do like your optimism.

(10-15-2015 01:52 PM)Eagleditka Wrote:  I get the point people are making about fiery coaches not having the right temperment to be head coaches, Muschamp comes to mind. But on the other hand, several fiery coaches and disciplinarians have been successful over the years. Nick Saban yells at his players and doesn't put up with nonsense. Jeff Monken was known to be fiery and he turned our program around. Bo Pelini had a stretch of success at Nebraska and might still be there if he hadn't stuck his foot in his mouth a few times. Even Jim McElwain turned around Florida's season after chewing out Kelvin Taylor. Right now, Georgia State needs a culture change. Shawn Elliott could be the guy that they need to correct all of the bad habits that Panthers players have picked up. He has a winning pedigree from App State and USC, as well as recruiting ties. Right now Georgia State could use some fire to shake things up.

Hear what you are saying, but Shawn takes it to a whole new level. He would make some DI's blush.

I'm sure Elliott's capable of changing his demeanor somewhat to match the expectations of a head coach if that's really even necessary. Let's face it that program needs some fire at this point. Anyways, as long as you win, it doesn't matter what your personality is.

(10-15-2015 01:19 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Just so we're clear, a former App coach is now the Interim head coach at South Carolina...and a former AState coach is now the Interim head Coach at Southern California.

The ASU's are taking over the College Football World!

And a lot of our staff are old stAte coaches as well.

I am not sure I understand where this thread is going. So if you suck too bad then a top assistant will not take the job? So are P5 assistants as a group waiting to take a job at a 10 win school?

Justin Fuente took the job at Memphis when Memphis 5-31 in the three previous years.
SMU was 6-18 before Chad Morris took the job.

This is going to come down to money and how deep we are willing to go into our pockets. Period.

(10-15-2015 12:59 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(10-15-2015 11:44 AM)glsjunior74 Wrote:  

(10-15-2015 10:13 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(10-15-2015 08:16 AM)glsjunior74 Wrote:  He coached at an FCS his entire career before being named OC for a coach that calls his own plays. That's boilerplate G5 head coach

Maybe for a successful G5. He will never consider a G5 program that is on life support. His stock is much higher than that. He will either stay on board at USC in some capacity, or be hired by another P5 as a coordinator. Being at USC under Spurrier has set his expectations very high. Sorry GSU fans. Not happening.

It's not on life support when we pay ours almost double what you pay yours. Not to mention 20k additional student fees coming in in the next year.

Junior what he is getting at has nothing to do with pay. It is the size of the hole that Georgia State is in. The deeper the hole the harder it is to get out off. At most coaches only get one or two shots as making it as a head coach. It is a dog eat dog world where you either win or we will replace you with someone else. There are a lot of coaches out there that want to be a head coach but they are waiting for the right one to come open where there one shot at winning has better odds than the odds that now face Georgia State faces in being turned into a winning program.

LOL. It is always about money and how much institutional support you get. Someone keeps taking the job UAB and Maryland will find a coach as well. FBS coaching jobs dont go unfilled and everyone knows that limited G5 opportunities are you interview for a P5 job.

(10-15-2015 04:20 PM)panama Wrote:  

(10-15-2015 12:59 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(10-15-2015 11:44 AM)glsjunior74 Wrote:  

(10-15-2015 10:13 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(10-15-2015 08:16 AM)glsjunior74 Wrote:  He coached at an FCS his entire career before being named OC for a coach that calls his own plays. That's boilerplate G5 head coach

Maybe for a successful G5. He will never consider a G5 program that is on life support. His stock is much higher than that. He will either stay on board at USC in some capacity, or be hired by another P5 as a coordinator. Being at USC under Spurrier has set his expectations very high. Sorry GSU fans. Not happening.

It's not on life support when we pay ours almost double what you pay yours. Not to mention 20k additional student fees coming in in the next year.

Junior what he is getting at has nothing to do with pay. It is the size of the hole that Georgia State is in. The deeper the hole the harder it is to get out off. At most coaches only get one or two shots as making it as a head coach. It is a dog eat dog world where you either win or we will replace you with someone else. There are a lot of coaches out there that want to be a head coach but they are waiting for the right one to come open where there one shot at winning has better odds than the odds that now face Georgia State faces in being turned into a winning program.

LOL. It is always about money and how much institutional support you get. Someone keeps taking the job UAB and Maryland will find a coach as well. FBS coaching jobs dont go unfilled and everyone knows that limited G5 opportunities are you interview for a P5 job.

Yes someone will except job and the position will be filled. I have no idea if Shaw will want or except the job if offered.

From the way I read southcharlotteapp post, he feels Shaw would not have in interest in the job.

(10-15-2015 04:13 PM)panama Wrote:  I am not sure I understand where this thread is going. So if you suck too bad then a top assistant will not take the job? So are P5 assistants as a group waiting to take a job at a 10 win school?

Justin Fuente took the job at Memphis when Memphis 5-31 in the three previous years.
SMU was 6-18 before Chad Morris took the job.

This is going to come down to money and how deep we are willing to go into our pockets. Period.

Fuente wasn't a P5 assistant when he took over Memphis. TCU was in the Mountain West when Fuente was OC in 2011.

SMU isn't anyway comparable to Georgia State, unless you have boosters ready to shell out $2 million per year to your next coach.

There will be many job openings this offseason, I think we can all agree head to head GA St isn't one of the more attractive ones at this time.

I do think Shawn would do a great job at Georgia State, but I have trouble understanding why he would be interested in a position with that much risk. There is a lot of potential at GSU, but a young coach who took that challenge and came up short could trash an otherwise promising career. I'm not saying that to bash GSU. I'm just saying that I don't think it's a great move/fit for Shawn at this point. If GSU is actually in the market, they probably need someone with experience assembling a team (staff) and building a program. I'm not sure a first time head coach is the best idea.

(10-15-2015 06:48 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  There will be many job openings this offseason, I think we can all agree head to head GA St isn't one of the more attractive ones at this time.

All about the Benjamins

(10-15-2015 07:35 PM)Yosef84 Wrote:  I do think Shawn would do a great job at Georgia State, but I have trouble understanding why he would be interested in a position with that much risk. There is a lot of potential at GSU, but a young coach who took that challenge and came up short could trash an otherwise promising career. I'm not saying that to bash GSU. I'm just saying that I don't think it's a great move/fit for Shawn at this point. If GSU is actually in the market, they probably need someone with experience assembling a team (staff) and building a program. I'm not sure a first time head coach is the best idea.

Whoever the candidate is it wil come to how much we are willing to pay to fix football, how much institutional support he an his staff have, how good the recruiting is (#4), facilities (do we build an erector set on the north part of the property or do we renovate a great building into one of the best stadiums in America? ). That is where the attractiveness of the job comes in. Shawn Elliott does not strike me as someone who gets scurred.

(10-15-2015 08:59 PM)panama Wrote:  

(10-15-2015 07:35 PM)Yosef84 Wrote:  I do think Shawn would do a great job at Georgia State, but I have trouble understanding why he would be interested in a position with that much risk. There is a lot of potential at GSU, but a young coach who took that challenge and came up short could trash an otherwise promising career. I'm not saying that to bash GSU. I'm just saying that I don't think it's a great move/fit for Shawn at this point. If GSU is actually in the market, they probably need someone with experience assembling a team (staff) and building a program. I'm not sure a first time head coach is the best idea.

Whoever the candidate is it wil come to how much we are willing to pay to fix football, how much institutional support he an his staff have, how good the recruiting is (#4), facilities (do we build an erector set on the north part of the property or do we renovate a great building into one of the best stadiums in America? ). That is where the attractiveness of the job comes in. Shawn Elliott does not strike me as someone who gets scurred.

As many have said, Shawn would be great for GSU or quite frankly any school. Here's the deal though: He has strong ties to SC. The players love and respect him. They may turn the season around and he becomes a grassroots favorite like Dabo at Clemson. And, if Carolina wants him, no one in the G5 could afford to take him away.

(10-14-2015 02:36 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  I have a friend in Columbia with zero ties to Georgia State. He is a USC alumni. He sends me a random text out of the blue that says...

Quote:Hearing around here our interim coach is going to be your head coach next season.

We text back and forth and then about 20 min later he says

Quote:apparently we aren't the only ones talking about this.

Dan Wolken - USA Today

Travis Haney - ESPN

He is currently at $430k at South Carolina. So salary would be a raise compared to what we paid Miles. Maybe a complete rumor, but we aren't exactly the team to throw in a rumor to sexy it up. His tenure at App State and AD Cobb's overlapped about 6 years.

What are your thoughts about him?

No offense intended to GA State fans...all ten of them, but I will find out where Shawn's house is and chain myself across his door to keep him from doing this. I think way to highly of him. He does not need to take this job in order to be a head coach. He can do way better. I just don't see this program lasting. There is just not enough fan interest and never will be.