(09-27-2015 08:14 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  I think his point, by and large, was that the offense is better but just can't keep up with opponents because of how dreadful the defense is. Bob compared Roback to Ryan Leaf, which is what scaggie was responding to. While I still would rather have Reggie Bell in there, Roback is FAR from our problem. All he's done is led an offense that has scored 48, 17, and 36 points over the last 3 weeks.

I agree with wolverineeagle...the offense has showed clear improvement, but the defense is every bit as bad as it was last year. I truly hope it's because of all the youth up front. We are rotating some true/redshirt freshmen and sophomores up there. I hate the 3-3-5 scheme, but ironically the best tackler on the team is the extra defensive back (Brown). If the defense doesn't show vast improvement over the last 8 games, I'd say McCaslin needs to go for sure.

Bell is a WR or RB. He is not a QB. If he goes in EMU’s offense will bog down because he can’t throw. Terrible passer and he doesn’t have Denard Robinson’s speed to make up for it.

Roebuck should be the QB with Bell as a Percy Harvin-type player. That would maximize EMU’s offensive talent.

(09-27-2015 10:14 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 04:37 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 12:19 AM)scaggie Wrote:  Bob wickerson.. Sorry to see you woke up on the wrong side of the bed AGAIN!! First of all Bowling Green has their whole offensive line back this year , which is huge in Division 1 football. By the way.. Last year BG won with a freshman QB when Johnson got hurt, maybe it's not the QB , but the talent he has around him??? Number two, I feel sorry for EMU'' s offense. They cannot have one dropped pass a fumble, or an INT. In division 1 football, it's too hard to be perfect, the talent is just too good. Three, Roback was 28/40 70% 300 yards 2 TD's.. Bob, so from your point of view , is it Robacks fault we fumbled on the 1 yard line, on first down????? Oh, which would have been 7 points!! It's Robacks fault that Army faked it and went 60 yards for a first down, and scored 2 plays later??Is it Robacks fault because of the game plan and play calling???? I don't think so. By your point of view, it's Robacks fault, that we gave up a 17 point lead last weekend, and 900 yards of total offense to Army tonight. Roback is soooo far from our problem, and if you think Belll would change things, you are CRAZY.. What game are you watching? Four, by your comments, have you ever played division 1 football? I HAVE played division 1 football, and coached at a high level, you are embarrassing yourself with your uneducated comments.. Please stop! But people on this forum already know that if they know football.

The problem with this year's football team isn't on the offensive side of the ball.

Why scapegoat our QB or our offense?

We've scored enough points to be at least 2 and 2, probably, 3 and 1.

I like our two QBs and hope that when Bell gets back CC can mix them so that the defense does not know which QB to plan for. (and I'm not talking if we are 21 points behind at the start of the 4th quarter to bring in Roback to throw a gazillion passes.

I agreeto a point we need a running game that eats clock and keeps the defense off the field as much as possible. That being said this is not a come from behind team. Once we are behind it's game over.

One thing to remember short passing game (high completion percentage) is almost like a running game.

Shuffle passes, screens, hitch passes, etc. are all like running plays.

Overall as team this is the players and coaches worst game this season. Those who find fault with the coaching are correct with the special teams fake punt, there were numerous defensive penalities the most stupid being called for being the neutral zone at least five or six times. We must be the only team in American where the other team faces 1st and 25 and gets a first down on three rushing plays.

Some positives though in this game and all the games through the first four:

With the exception of the second half with Ball State (where the coaches got away from their strengths)the offense has improved. The offensive line which was a huge question mark appears to be decent, no sacks with the Army game. We started slow with Army but for most of the game we had a nice balanced offensive rhythm. I've liked Daugherty from the beginning and each game his performance is getting better, Vann is solid. The old fumble problem got Jackson last night but overall he's a much improved overall player. Roback did much better than with Ball State.

Overall in this game and through four games special teams has done very well with punt and kick off coverages, Nathan Adams knows how to tackle , Barnes is nationally ranked as a punter, Mulder missed one last night and then came right back and nailed it. I like Daugherty and Russell at KO returns. Our KOs are in the end zone and while we missed that fake punt last night we had the nice onside kick at Wyoming. Keen is a solid coach look up his bio some time.

Defense well if these starters can't get done its time to try out other players and see what they can do. I think LSU will be the game that happens. Someone in the front seven needs to take charge and be a game changer. We did have fumble recoveries and an interception. I like three younger guys on defense Brown, the frosh NT and Girado the DB.
After making 17 tackles several fans and I were wondering where Calderon was? Didn't see number 7 on the sidelines. Our pass rush is really lacking.

I had a chance to hear CC speak for the first time at the Convo to recruits (and with a hoarse voice). He is intense and a great energy level and knows what he is looking for. What he and this staff need are some immediate impact on the field players and difference makers on defense.

Yes I think a solid JUCO DE/NT, another JUCO LB and JUCO DB would be helpful for next year. Defense (once again) is where we need immediate improvement.

Ah yes give the kids and staff credit they were down big early 22-3. I was ready for the roll and die I've seen so many times before with EMU football, the kids came back and when the score was 36-30 I had my fingers crossed they were going to pull it out.

Am I angry about this loss? Hell yes and the ODU and Ball State game as well. But there are times I watch this years team play and smile because I know there are only 12 seniors the best is yet to come so I'm not quitting on this team or its staff, like I said I view this season as one extended fall camp for both the players and coaches. And yes overall this team has improved from CC's first year.

(09-27-2015 01:35 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 10:14 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 04:37 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 12:19 AM)scaggie Wrote:  Bob wickerson.. Sorry to see you woke up on the wrong side of the bed AGAIN!! First of all Bowling Green has their whole offensive line back this year , which is huge in Division 1 football. By the way.. Last year BG won with a freshman QB when Johnson got hurt, maybe it's not the QB , but the talent he has around him??? Number two, I feel sorry for EMU'' s offense. They cannot have one dropped pass a fumble, or an INT. In division 1 football, it's too hard to be perfect, the talent is just too good. Three, Roback was 28/40 70% 300 yards 2 TD's.. Bob, so from your point of view , is it Robacks fault we fumbled on the 1 yard line, on first down????? Oh, which would have been 7 points!! It's Robacks fault that Army faked it and went 60 yards for a first down, and scored 2 plays later??Is it Robacks fault because of the game plan and play calling???? I don't think so. By your point of view, it's Robacks fault, that we gave up a 17 point lead last weekend, and 900 yards of total offense to Army tonight. Roback is soooo far from our problem, and if you think Belll would change things, you are CRAZY.. What game are you watching? Four, by your comments, have you ever played division 1 football? I HAVE played division 1 football, and coached at a high level, you are embarrassing yourself with your uneducated comments.. Please stop! But people on this forum already know that if they know football.

The problem with this year's football team isn't on the offensive side of the ball.

Why scapegoat our QB or our offense?

We've scored enough points to be at least 2 and 2, probably, 3 and 1.

I like our two QBs and hope that when Bell gets back CC can mix them so that the defense does not know which QB to plan for. (and I'm not talking if we are 21 points behind at the start of the 4th quarter to bring in Roback to throw a gazillion passes.

I agreeto a point we need a running game that eats clock and keeps the defense off the field as much as possible. That being said this is not a come from behind team. Once we are behind it's game over.

One thing to remember short passing game (high completion percentage) is almost like a running game.

Shuffle passes, screens, hitch passes, etc. are all like running plays.

But the clock stops when incomplete. I am talking about eating the clock keeping the defense off the field.

(09-26-2015 08:15 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  For anyone who has earned a degree at EMU, the football program really is an embarrassment to a great university.

It has been this way for nearly 30 years.

Thankfully, I do not associate my EMU degree (nor my love for EMU) with the football program (or the AD in general). If I did I'd be a miserably unhappy person.

I think many of you missed it. Watch the video again and pay particular attention at 2:52.

Then, go back and look at the depth chart for the game and compare it to who actually took the field on the defense at the starting lineup. As I understand it there was some off the field extra curricular activity last week which resulted in a few players not fulfilling their roles during the game this week.

The defense has been bad enough all season without having to bench or suspend starting players for off the field activity.

http://youtu.be/jo-vOAXPLxs

(09-27-2015 02:36 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 01:35 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 10:14 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 04:37 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 12:19 AM)scaggie Wrote:  Bob wickerson.. Sorry to see you woke up on the wrong side of the bed AGAIN!! First of all Bowling Green has their whole offensive line back this year , which is huge in Division 1 football. By the way.. Last year BG won with a freshman QB when Johnson got hurt, maybe it's not the QB , but the talent he has around him??? Number two, I feel sorry for EMU'' s offense. They cannot have one dropped pass a fumble, or an INT. In division 1 football, it's too hard to be perfect, the talent is just too good. Three, Roback was 28/40 70% 300 yards 2 TD's.. Bob, so from your point of view , is it Robacks fault we fumbled on the 1 yard line, on first down????? Oh, which would have been 7 points!! It's Robacks fault that Army faked it and went 60 yards for a first down, and scored 2 plays later??Is it Robacks fault because of the game plan and play calling???? I don't think so. By your point of view, it's Robacks fault, that we gave up a 17 point lead last weekend, and 900 yards of total offense to Army tonight. Roback is soooo far from our problem, and if you think Belll would change things, you are CRAZY.. What game are you watching? Four, by your comments, have you ever played division 1 football? I HAVE played division 1 football, and coached at a high level, you are embarrassing yourself with your uneducated comments.. Please stop! But people on this forum already know that if they know football.

The problem with this year's football team isn't on the offensive side of the ball.

Why scapegoat our QB or our offense?

We've scored enough points to be at least 2 and 2, probably, 3 and 1.

I like our two QBs and hope that when Bell gets back CC can mix them so that the defense does not know which QB to plan for. (and I'm not talking if we are 21 points behind at the start of the 4th quarter to bring in Roback to throw a gazillion passes.

I agreeto a point we need a running game that eats clock and keeps the defense off the field as much as possible. That being said this is not a come from behind team. Once we are behind it's game over.

One thing to remember short passing game (high completion percentage) is almost like a running game.

Shuffle passes, screens, hitch passes, etc. are all like running plays.

But the clock stops when incomplete. I am talking about eating the clock keeping the defense off the field.

That's certainly true, but the completion percentage for what I described should be say 75%.

These passes should be completed 75% of the time while passes say 15 - 20 yards (or more) down the field might be completed 33% of the time.

(09-27-2015 12:45 PM)wolverineeagle Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 08:14 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  I think his point, by and large, was that the offense is better but just can't keep up with opponents because of how dreadful the defense is. Bob compared Roback to Ryan Leaf, which is what scaggie was responding to. While I still would rather have Reggie Bell in there, Roback is FAR from our problem. All he's done is led an offense that has scored 48, 17, and 36 points over the last 3 weeks.

I agree with wolverineeagle...the offense has showed clear improvement, but the defense is every bit as bad as it was last year. I truly hope it's because of all the youth up front. We are rotating some true/redshirt freshmen and sophomores up there. I hate the 3-3-5 scheme, but ironically the best tackler on the team is the extra defensive back (Brown). If the defense doesn't show vast improvement over the last 8 games, I'd say McCaslin needs to go for sure.

Bell is a WR or RB. He is not a QB. If he goes in EMU’s offense will bog down because he can’t throw. Terrible passer and he doesn’t have Denard Robinson’s speed to make up for it.

Roebuck should be the QB with Bell as a Percy Harvin-type player. That would maximize EMU’s offensive talent.

I suspect they are very close in speed. Robinson was second or third in the 100m in FL. Bell was seventh in the 110m hurdles in CA.

(09-27-2015 11:17 PM)2Intense Wrote:  I think many of you missed it. Watch the video again and pay particular attention at 2:52.

Then, go back and look at the depth chart for the game and compare it to who actually took the field on the defense at the starting lineup. As I understand it there was some off the field extra curricular activity last week which resulted in a few players not fulfilling their roles during the game this week.

The defense has been bad enough all season without having to bench or suspend starting players for off the field activity.

http://youtu.be/jo-vOAXPLxs

Sound like I may have to revise my 2016 open scholarship numbers upward. I don't think CC has alot of patience for these types of situations.

(09-27-2015 11:21 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 02:36 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 01:35 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 10:14 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 04:37 AM)emu steve Wrote:  The problem with this year's football team isn't on the offensive side of the ball.

Why scapegoat our QB or our offense?

We've scored enough points to be at least 2 and 2, probably, 3 and 1.

I like our two QBs and hope that when Bell gets back CC can mix them so that the defense does not know which QB to plan for. (and I'm not talking if we are 21 points behind at the start of the 4th quarter to bring in Roback to throw a gazillion passes.

I agreeto a point we need a running game that eats clock and keeps the defense off the field as much as possible. That being said this is not a come from behind team. Once we are behind it's game over.

One thing to remember short passing game (high completion percentage) is almost like a running game.

Shuffle passes, screens, hitch passes, etc. are all like running plays.

But the clock stops when incomplete. I am talking about eating the clock keeping the defense off the field.

That's certainly true, but the completion percentage for what I described should be say 75%.

These passes should be completed 75% of the time while passes say 15 - 20 yards (or more) down the field might be completed 33% of the time.

But doesn't stop the clock. when jeff was here we would score in 3 or 5 plays the defense would come on and they would let the other team score in 3 or 4.

(09-28-2015 08:15 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 11:21 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 02:36 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 01:35 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 10:14 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  I agreeto a point we need a running game that eats clock and keeps the defense off the field as much as possible. That being said this is not a come from behind team. Once we are behind it's game over.

One thing to remember short passing game (high completion percentage) is almost like a running game.

Shuffle passes, screens, hitch passes, etc. are all like running plays.

But the clock stops when incomplete. I am talking about eating the clock keeping the defense off the field.

That's certainly true, but the completion percentage for what I described should be say 75%.

These passes should be completed 75% of the time while passes say 15 - 20 yards (or more) down the field might be completed 33% of the time.

But doesn't stop the clock. when jeff was here we would score in 3 or 5 plays the defense would come on and they would let the other team score in 3 or 4.

We're not going to score in 3 or 5 plays. Most are designed to get say 5 - 7 yards.

(09-28-2015 10:14 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 08:15 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 11:21 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 02:36 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 01:35 PM)emu steve Wrote:  One thing to remember short passing game (high completion percentage) is almost like a running game.

Shuffle passes, screens, hitch passes, etc. are all like running plays.

But the clock stops when incomplete. I am talking about eating the clock keeping the defense off the field.

That's certainly true, but the completion percentage for what I described should be say 75%.

These passes should be completed 75% of the time while passes say 15 - 20 yards (or more) down the field might be completed 33% of the time.

But doesn't stop the clock. when jeff was here we would score in 3 or 5 plays the defense would come on and they would let the other team score in 3 or 4.

We're not going to score in 3 or 5 plays. Most are designed to get say 5 - 7 yards.

Optoma word is designed.and again incomplete passes stops the clock we need the clock to keep running on offense unless it's a first down.

Our biggest problem is our defense being on the field we need to keep them off the field as much as possible that means running the ball as much as possible.

(09-27-2015 11:50 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 12:45 PM)wolverineeagle Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 08:14 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  I think his point, by and large, was that the offense is better but just can't keep up with opponents because of how dreadful the defense is. Bob compared Roback to Ryan Leaf, which is what scaggie was responding to. While I still would rather have Reggie Bell in there, Roback is FAR from our problem. All he's done is led an offense that has scored 48, 17, and 36 points over the last 3 weeks.

I agree with wolverineeagle...the offense has showed clear improvement, but the defense is every bit as bad as it was last year. I truly hope it's because of all the youth up front. We are rotating some true/redshirt freshmen and sophomores up there. I hate the 3-3-5 scheme, but ironically the best tackler on the team is the extra defensive back (Brown). If the defense doesn't show vast improvement over the last 8 games, I'd say McCaslin needs to go for sure.

Bell is a WR or RB. He is not a QB. If he goes in EMU’s offense will bog down because he can’t throw. Terrible passer and he doesn’t have Denard Robinson’s speed to make up for it.

Roebuck should be the QB with Bell as a Percy Harvin-type player. That would maximize EMU’s offensive talent.

I suspect they are very close in speed. Robinson was second or third in the 100m in FL. Bell was seventh in the 110m hurdles in CA.

If he does Bell has yet to show it in a game.

Did anyone notice how Roback a few times gives away a running play pre-snap? I saw on at least 2 occasions he has one leg back while he is ready to receive the snap, so that he can hand the ball off quicker. It not only gives away the play call but also the direction. I could be mistaken but I never saw him do that and then pass.

Dear wolverineeagle,
Maybe you forgot Reggie Bell running away from Buffalo defenders, twice, last year. He has the speed.

It is really hard to not be upset with coaching decisions that are not logical. First in the ODU game the
color commentator says on the air during the replay of the winning touchdown by their bull running back
that Eastern was playing the pass. Freshman quarterback has to take their team about fifty yards for the
win, they have a bull for a running back that is having a good game and the defense is told to play the pass.
Then in the Ball State game our two excellent running backs are wasted while they try to win the game on
Roback's arm. It was like watching an NFL game after the two minute warning and the quarterback for the
team that is trailing is trying to pull it out with his arm. Third, Army already has shown they use trick plays,
Eastern makes a great third and less than one stop. The ball is at midfield, the very area where a team would
fake the punt. The color commentator for the Army game says during half-time when they are showing the
first half highlights that Eastern's punt team was overloaded to one side so guess where trickery minded Army
ran the ball instead of punting.

Dear rudy711,
To be fair, remember the coaches decision to onside kick against Wyoming because they knew the front blockers just took off running? Your remarks may be fair criticism too, but sometimes we who are watching don't always know what is going on. Also, didn't Coach DeBoer make the comment that in retrospect they should have used the running game more in the Ball State game?

So if we recover an onside kick at Wyoming the coaching staff is brilliant and if they allow a fake punt at Army they're not fit to be Div I coaches? I must have missed that memo.