On the AAC board, Memphis posters are saying that Tennessee won't play them anymore because they're too good, yet when Mohajir calls Memphis for a game, they won't even answer the phone. The Hogs are the same way, but they'll play any other team in the SBC, no questions asked.

hate memphis bunch grand delusion hypocrites...

(09-22-2015 06:22 PM)southernwolf Wrote:  On the AAC board, Memphis posters are saying that Tennessee won't play them anymore because they're too good, yet when Mohajir calls Memphis for a game, they won't even answer the phone. The Hogs are the same way, but they'll play any other team in the SBC, no questions asked.

One of my best friends is a major Hogs fan (despite going to UNT). Every time I ask him about Arkansas State, he said Fran Broyles made it that way so fans around the State could root for both teams. He said he didn't want to divide the fan bases. I've always thought this was a load of sh*t. Any truth to this? Or have you heard similar?

I've heard the rumblings before (one similar is that Frank Broyles made the "no instate policy" play because he felt the state couldn't handle two fan bases)

along with nothing to play for, everything to lose, nothing to gain, no redeeming reason to play, astate not good enough or worthy to be on same field as arkansas the list goes on and on

I certainly never believed any of them were legitimate reasoning's, yet you ask Arkansas fans or the Hog media they'll certainly cite anyone of those reasons.

lol....short answer, hell no.
Others will be more eloquent than me, and fill you in better, but....

frank thinks everyone in the state is a pig fan, and has been against ASU achieving university status, and fielding a FBS level team. He wants only one school in the state. He doesn't want any competition.
Make no mistake, frank is the devil in human form.

(09-22-2015 07:57 PM)RamblinRedWolf44 Wrote:  (one similar is that Frank Broyles made the "no instate policy" play because he felt the state couldn't handle two fan bases)

John Barnhill instituted the "no instate policy," not Broyles.

(09-22-2015 07:52 PM)MeanGreenFan123 Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 06:22 PM)southernwolf Wrote:  On the AAC board, Memphis posters are saying that Tennessee won't play them anymore because they're too good, yet when Mohajir calls Memphis for a game, they won't even answer the phone. The Hogs are the same way, but they'll play any other team in the SBC, no questions asked.

One of my best friends is a major Hogs fan (despite going to UNT). Every time I ask him about Arkansas State, he said Fran Broyles made it that way so fans around the State could root for both teams. He said he didn't want to divide the fan bases. I've always thought this was a load of sh*t. Any truth to this? Or have you heard similar?

Broyles didn't create the policy, John Barnhill did.

What the Razorbacks strongly believe is that the state of Arkansas is not big enough to support 2 separate instate football teams. To be honest, they believe it's not big enough for 2 D1 programs period, but that ship sailed. They believe that as long as they never play another instate school, they will never force people to pick a side, thus giving the opportunity for our fans to also cheer for the pigs.

The theory is that if the two teams played, and Arkansas did something to tick us off, that many people that they rely on for ticket sales and donor money would potentially choose our side, and would cost them in the end. Thus, they have done everything in their power to ensure that we never got to University status, never got to FBS football, and never had a winning program. They failed on all 3 counts.

Most Arkansas State fans believe the policy is a bunch of bull hockey. I think many of our fans are to the point now where playing the Razorbacks is no longer a big deal, but you can bet that if we beat Toledo this weekend, you'll see a few more "How long will the Hogs run?" signs appearing around Jonesboro.

(09-22-2015 06:22 PM)southernwolf Wrote:  On the AAC board, Memphis posters are saying that Tennessee won't play them anymore because they're too good, yet when Mohajir calls Memphis for a game, they won't even answer the phone. The Hogs are the same way, but they'll play any other team in the SBC, no questions asked.

Memphis has played ASU 9 times since 2000

5 of those were in Jonesboro
4 were in Memphis

stop complaining, it's not like we're never gonna play again...it's just a break...you'll be OK.

(09-22-2015 09:52 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 06:22 PM)southernwolf Wrote:  On the AAC board, Memphis posters are saying that Tennessee won't play them anymore because they're too good, yet when Mohajir calls Memphis for a game, they won't even answer the phone. The Hogs are the same way, but they'll play any other team in the SBC, no questions asked.

Memphis has played ASU 9 times since 2000

5 of those were in Jonesboro
4 were in Memphis

stop complaining, it's not like we're never gonna play again...it's just a break...you'll be OK.

I love how you conveniently leave out the 10th part of the series that we played in Memphis just before that to make it look like you've played in Jonesboro more than Memphis.

Frank didn't make the policy so your friend doesn't know his hogs very well.

John Barnhill created the policy and when he created UArk was the only NCAA member in the state of Arkansas. AState would later become the second and we were College Division rather than University Division.

In the past they had played some in-state schools but Barnhill recognized the time and place he existed in. Fayetteville was remotely located with no decent highway connecting it to the rest of the state. The two largest newspapers were in Little Rock, the most powerful radio stations were in Little Rock. If they played anyone else in the state they would be playing a school easier to reach from Little Rock, at the time most of the population of the state was in and around Little Rock and in the delta on the east side of the state.

Eastern Arkansas was a different place. In 1960 and 1962 Arkansas and Ole Miss played basketball in Blytheville high school's 3200 seat gym, they were inspired to do so because a few years earlier the NBA champion St. Louis Hawks sold out an exhibition there and it was widely considered the best arena between St. Louis and Memphis and one of the very best in the region (it was bigger than UArk's arena).

Times changed but "the policy" still made sense. The NCAA controlled TV and you were limited to five appearances over a rolling two years so ABC was always looking for some to carry. Virtually none of the bowls were tied to conferences and then only champions. A rising program that made noise could suddenly land on ABC and be in a major bowl game. NW Arkansas was still a backwater but new companies Tyson, Wal-Mart, Jones Trucking would soon change that. Why risk letting a school become your equal practically overnight?

Today none of the old factors apply. TV is controlled by conferences, bowls are locked up, NW Arkansas is awash in wealth and there is an interstate connecting them to the rest of the state.

As for the idea such a policy is eternal. John Barnhill had another policy. No African-American players on the athletic teams at Arkansas even though the classrooms had been integrated. That policy got changed so apparently policies can be changed.

Being able to root for everyone? Laughable BS. The policy was about the economic protection of UArk. The circumstances that made it logical no longer exist but just skim comments by their coach and AD and convince me the athletic department hasn't become a clown college. If the Hogs miss a bowl this year, they will have paid $10 million so far for one bowl appearance by their football coach and they've paid $8.8 million for one NCAA basketball appearance by their hoops coach.

I knew some Arkansas fans down here in Georgia. One woman could grow some damn good tomatoes, but she had the biggest beer belly I ever saw on a woman and chain smoked. She loved her some Hogs though.

(09-23-2015 09:13 AM)gsu95 Wrote:  I knew some Arkansas fans down here in Georgia. One woman could grow some damn good tomatoes, but she had the biggest beer belly I ever saw on a woman and chain smoked. She loved her some Hogs though.

That is the typical hogs fan. They could have their own special show on animal planet.

UT wants nothing to do with playing good G5's much less one instate until they do not suck anymore. There is losing then there is losing to a good G5 then there is losing to an instate G5 where your fan have to hear it for years. The only reason we (GS) finally made it on Tech's schedule now is because of PJ. IF we ever beat either uga or Tech I doubt we'll ever get another game for decades. I had respect for UM for playing App again. I hate it and it is one of the biggest unfair things in college football but the lower, mid and down elite P5's will always do everything they can to avoid good G5 teams especially those instate. Hopefully ESPN and the others continue to harp on these FCS games and more P5's follow the Big 10.

(09-22-2015 06:22 PM)southernwolf Wrote:  On the AAC board, Memphis posters are saying that Tennessee won't play them anymore because they're too good, yet when Mohajir calls Memphis for a game, they won't even answer the phone. The Hogs are the same way, but they'll play any other team in the SBC, no questions asked.

The facts are that Tennessee wants to resume its basketball series with Memphis. Memphis has said no, unless Tennessee agrees to resume its Memphis football series. Tennessee said no to that. So that's that.

This has been going on for the past several years and pre-exists any claim by Memphis to be "good", altough Tennessee did cancel a football game in 2004 at the Liberty Bowl when Memphis was on a winning streak with RB Dangelo Williams.

Around that time, Arkansas canceled a game as well.

Face it--there is no upside to Tennessee (or Arkansas) playing Memphis and winning. But the downside to losing to a good Memphis team is evident.

All of this Arkansas vs the rest of Arkansas is just an absurdity. Arkansas is the dominate university in the state both academics and athletics. They were a SWC power, and now a middle of the road SEC team. In what universe does it need to protect it's flanks.

I mean I get it if stAte would somehow manage to get into a P5 league, but come on man it's the SBC, and the SLC. They have to have some very serious problems with their self-esteem. But then who thought Bama would kill UAB football, who thought LSU would kick UNO out of the system and steal all of it's research dollars as a parting gift?

The big boys always dominate you and then say it is for your own good.