(09-07-2015 08:25 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(09-06-2015 03:01 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  509 Yards allowed on 64 plays doesn't scream great to me and that has nothing to do with a short field

Stats can be misleading if you don't watch the games. We're pretty happy with our defensive performance. It is the offense that was abysmal.

I wouldn't be so hard on your O just yet . . . . Good P5 Ds have a way of making G5 Os look worse than they really are . . . .

Appalachian State at #12 Clemson

App St should play close for a half before Clemson pulls away.

Clemson 45, App St 24

Western Michigan at Georgia Southern

This seems like a toss up. Since I'm a SBC homer I'll give GS the edge but this seems like WMU has the upper hand at this point.

GS 27, WMU 24

Northwestern State at Louisiana

FCS tune up game blowout. Won't learn anything.

UL 52, NWST 10

Nicholls State at Louisiana Monroe

Will be closer than the other FCS games.

ULM 28, NSU, 17

Prairie View A&M at Texas State

Another tune up. Enjoy the band. I'll be watching from the President's Suite.

TXST 49, PVA&M 17

Charleston Southern at Troy

Troy looks better this season so thats a good start. Tune up time.

Troy 42, CSU 13

#24 Missouri at Arkansas State

This is the most exciting game of the week. Sad I'll miss it. Big home game and I hope the Redwolves come out ready to get a huge win. I think they keep it close but Mizzou ultimately wins.

Mizzou 38, stAte 28

Georgia State at New Mexico State

This game was awesome last year if you like shootouts. NMSU won in Atlanta last year and I expect them to win in front of a sellout at home.

NMSU 38, GS 35

Idaho at #8 USC

Get the paycheck and don't get injured

USC 70, Idaho 9

South Alabama at Nebraska

Another paycheck, I hope USA catches them off guard but since the Cornhuskers lost to BYU they won't look past this one.

Huskers 42, USA 17

(09-07-2015 11:04 AM)slycat Wrote:  Appalachian State at #12 Clemson

App St should play close for a half before Clemson pulls away.

Clemson 45, App St 24

Western Michigan at Georgia Southern

This seems like a toss up. Since I'm a SBC homer I'll give GS the edge but this seems like WMU has the upper hand at this point.

GS 27, WMU 24

Northwestern State at Louisiana

FCS tune up game blowout. Won't learn anything.

UL 52, NWST 10

Nicholls State at Louisiana Monroe

Will be closer than the other FCS games.

ULM 28, NSU, 17

Prairie View A&M at Texas State

Another tune up. Enjoy the band. I'll be watching from the President's Suite.

TXST 49, PVA&M 17

Charleston Southern at Troy

Troy looks better this season so thats a good start. Tune up time.

Troy 42, CSU 13

#24 Missouri at Arkansas State

This is the most exciting game of the week. Sad I'll miss it. Big home game and I hope the Redwolves come out ready to get a huge win. I think they keep it close but Mizzou ultimately wins.

Mizzou 38, stAte 28

Georgia State at New Mexico State

This game was awesome last year if you like shootouts. NMSU won in Atlanta last year and I expect them to win in front of a sellout at home.

NMSU 38, GS 35

Idaho at #8 USC

Get the paycheck and don't get injured

USC 70, Idaho 9

South Alabama at Nebraska

Another paycheck, I hope USA catches them off guard but since the Cornhuskers lost to BYU they won't look past this one.

Huskers 42, USA 17

You do know NW St. isn't bad, but Nicholls St. didn't win a game last year.

Man, those two schools... Even in the Southland, I always got them backwards.

Which one is the street fighter?

(09-07-2015 12:17 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  Man, those two schools... Even in the Southland, I always got them backwards.

Which one is the street fighter?

Even when Nichols sucked they had our number so I always rate them higher.

(09-06-2015 11:51 AM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  Lots of dwelling on Week 1's slate of games, time to move on. Week 2 looks like a perfect time to get things back together.

Appalachian State at #12 Clemson 11:30 AM ESPN3

It all depends what the mental picture inside the locker room looks like for these Mountaineers. Will it be the team from last years blowout via Michigan or will the team from the second half of the season make this thing interesting. Either way the Tigers are always good for one let down game a year minimum, if App catches them going through the motions this score could flip.
Clemson in a tight one 31-24.

Not sure where the perception of Clemson that they always have a letdown against lesser opponents comes from. There are only two teams in the nation that have a longer streak of beating unranked opponents than Clemson does. Clemson has won 28 games in a row against unranked teams by at least 4 points. Usually the deficit is closer to 20 or 30.

Clemson has only lost a regular season game to an unranked non-P-5 school ONCE since 1976, and that one loss was against an eventual top-10 Marshall with Randy Moss and Chad Pennington.
Clemson is 7-0 against current Sunbelt teams with an average score of 38-9
Clemson is 30-0 against FCS teams since the 1930's.
And they are 42-7 at home since 2008. 4 of those 7 losses are to top 10 teams.
Clemson, even in their crappy years, just doesn't lose to non-p-5 schools.

(09-07-2015 12:26 PM)GSouthernU Wrote:  

(09-06-2015 11:51 AM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  Lots of dwelling on Week 1's slate of games, time to move on. Week 2 looks like a perfect time to get things back together.

Appalachian State at #12 Clemson 11:30 AM ESPN3

It all depends what the mental picture inside the locker room looks like for these Mountaineers. Will it be the team from last years blowout via Michigan or will the team from the second half of the season make this thing interesting. Either way the Tigers are always good for one let down game a year minimum, if App catches them going through the motions this score could flip.
Clemson in a tight one 31-24.

Not sure where the perception of Clemson that they always have a letdown against lesser opponents comes from. There are only two teams in the nation that have a longer streak of beating unranked opponents than Clemson does. Clemson has won 28 games in a row against unranked teams by at least 4 points. Usually the deficit is closer to 20 or 30.

Clemson has only lost a regular season game to an unranked non-P-5 school ONCE since 1976, and that one loss was against an eventual top-10 Marshall with Randy Moss and Chad Pennington.
Clemson is 7-0 against current Sunbelt teams with an average score of 38-9
Clemson is 30-0 against FCS teams since the 1930's.
And they are 42-7 at home since 2008. 4 of those 7 losses are to top 10 teams.
Clemson, even in their crappy years, just doesn't lose to non-p-5 schools.

I was speaking more to the tune that Clemson has a history of playing down to competition, and also seem unable to put together a complete season. Never mentioned anything about P5 vs G5 winning percentage.

(09-07-2015 12:40 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 12:26 PM)GSouthernU Wrote:  

(09-06-2015 11:51 AM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  Lots of dwelling on Week 1's slate of games, time to move on. Week 2 looks like a perfect time to get things back together.

Appalachian State at #12 Clemson 11:30 AM ESPN3

It all depends what the mental picture inside the locker room looks like for these Mountaineers. Will it be the team from last years blowout via Michigan or will the team from the second half of the season make this thing interesting. Either way the Tigers are always good for one let down game a year minimum, if App catches them going through the motions this score could flip.
Clemson in a tight one 31-24.

Not sure where the perception of Clemson that they always have a letdown against lesser opponents comes from. There are only two teams in the nation that have a longer streak of beating unranked opponents than Clemson does. Clemson has won 28 games in a row against unranked teams by at least 4 points. Usually the deficit is closer to 20 or 30.

Clemson has only lost a regular season game to an unranked non-P-5 school ONCE since 1976, and that one loss was against an eventual top-10 Marshall with Randy Moss and Chad Pennington.
Clemson is 7-0 against current Sunbelt teams with an average score of 38-9
Clemson is 30-0 against FCS teams since the 1930's.
And they are 42-7 at home since 2008. 4 of those 7 losses are to top 10 teams.
Clemson, even in their crappy years, just doesn't lose to non-p-5 schools.

I was speaking more to the tune that Clemson has a history of playing down to competition, and also seem unable to put together a complete season. Never mentioned anything about P5 vs G5 winning percentage.

I would argue that beating every team you are supposed to beat 28 times in a row doesn't support any narrative that Clemson has a tendency to play down to opponents. Look at their scores from the last few years against unranked teams.

Last year... Only losses to top 15 teams
Oklahoma 40-6
South Carolina 35-17
GAST 28-0 (Clemson's starting QB and RB and WR were out)
SC St 73-7
NC State 41-0
UNC 50-35

2013 Only losses to top 15 teams
UVA 59-10
Syracuse 49-14
Citadel 52-6
Georgia Tech 55-31
Maryland 40-27
Wake Forest 56-7

2012 Only losses top top 15 teams
Ball St. 52-27
Furman 41-7
Virginia Tech 38-17
Duke 56-20
Maryland 45-10
NC State 62-48

Look for yourself...
http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/act...esults.php


They have four consecutive 10 win seasons and beat Ohio State, Oklahoma and LSU in their last 3 bowl games. They won 2/3 against Auburn over the last 5 years and never lose to teams that fit App State's description.

So if you are talking about some tendency that has anything to do with this Saturday's game between App St. and Clemson, there is nothing that remotely suggests Clemson may perform poorly.

(09-07-2015 11:04 AM)slycat Wrote:  Appalachian State at #12 Clemson

App St should play close for a half before Clemson pulls away.

Clemson 45, App St 24

Western Michigan at Georgia Southern

This seems like a toss up. Since I'm a SBC homer I'll give GS the edge but this seems like WMU has the upper hand at this point.

GS 27, WMU 24

Northwestern State at Louisiana

FCS tune up game blowout. Won't learn anything.

UL 52, NWST 10

Nicholls State at Louisiana Monroe

Will be closer than the other FCS games.

ULM 28, NSU, 17

Prairie View A&M at Texas State

Another tune up. Enjoy the band. I'll be watching from the President's Suite.

TXST 49, PVA&M 17

Charleston Southern at Troy

Troy looks better this season so thats a good start. Tune up time.

Troy 42, CSU 13

#24 Missouri at Arkansas State

This is the most exciting game of the week. Sad I'll miss it. Big home game and I hope the Redwolves come out ready to get a huge win. I think they keep it close but Mizzou ultimately wins.

Mizzou 38, stAte 28

Georgia State at New Mexico State

This game was awesome last year if you like shootouts. NMSU won in Atlanta last year and I expect them to win in front of a sellout at home.

NMSU 38, GS 35

Idaho at #8 USC

Get the paycheck and don't get injured

USC 70, Idaho 9

South Alabama at Nebraska

Another paycheck, I hope USA catches them off guard but since the Cornhuskers lost to BYU they won't look past this one.

Huskers 42, USA 17

If we beat CSU by that margin we will win the SBC.

(09-07-2015 12:58 PM)GSouthernU Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 12:40 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 12:26 PM)GSouthernU Wrote:  

(09-06-2015 11:51 AM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  Lots of dwelling on Week 1's slate of games, time to move on. Week 2 looks like a perfect time to get things back together.

Appalachian State at #12 Clemson 11:30 AM ESPN3

It all depends what the mental picture inside the locker room looks like for these Mountaineers. Will it be the team from last years blowout via Michigan or will the team from the second half of the season make this thing interesting. Either way the Tigers are always good for one let down game a year minimum, if App catches them going through the motions this score could flip.
Clemson in a tight one 31-24.

Not sure where the perception of Clemson that they always have a letdown against lesser opponents comes from. There are only two teams in the nation that have a longer streak of beating unranked opponents than Clemson does. Clemson has won 28 games in a row against unranked teams by at least 4 points. Usually the deficit is closer to 20 or 30.

Clemson has only lost a regular season game to an unranked non-P-5 school ONCE since 1976, and that one loss was against an eventual top-10 Marshall with Randy Moss and Chad Pennington.
Clemson is 7-0 against current Sunbelt teams with an average score of 38-9
Clemson is 30-0 against FCS teams since the 1930's.
And they are 42-7 at home since 2008. 4 of those 7 losses are to top 10 teams.
Clemson, even in their crappy years, just doesn't lose to non-p-5 schools.

I was speaking more to the tune that Clemson has a history of playing down to competition, and also seem unable to put together a complete season. Never mentioned anything about P5 vs G5 winning percentage.

I would argue that beating every team you are supposed to beat 28 times in a row doesn't support any narrative that Clemson has a tendency to play down to opponents. Look at their scores from the last few years against unranked teams.

Last year... Only losses to top 15 teams
Oklahoma 40-6
South Carolina 35-17
GAST 28-0 (Clemson's starting QB and RB and WR were out)
SC St 73-7
NC State 41-0
UNC 50-35

2013 Only losses to top 15 teams
UVA 59-10
Syracuse 49-14
Citadel 52-6
Georgia Tech 55-31
Maryland 40-27
Wake Forest 56-7

2012 Only losses top top 15 teams
Ball St. 52-27
Furman 41-7
Virginia Tech 38-17
Duke 56-20
Maryland 45-10
NC State 62-48

Look for yourself...
http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/act...esults.php


They have four consecutive 10 win seasons and beat Ohio State, Oklahoma and LSU in their last 3 bowl games. They won 2/3 against Auburn over the last 5 years and never lose to teams that fit App State's description.

So if you are talking about some tendency that has anything to do with this Saturday's game between App St. and Clemson, there is nothing that remotely suggests Clemson may perform poorly.

You are right, we will lay an egg and get beat 44 - 0.

(09-07-2015 01:04 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 12:58 PM)GSouthernU Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 12:40 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 12:26 PM)GSouthernU Wrote:  

(09-06-2015 11:51 AM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  Lots of dwelling on Week 1's slate of games, time to move on. Week 2 looks like a perfect time to get things back together.

Appalachian State at #12 Clemson 11:30 AM ESPN3

It all depends what the mental picture inside the locker room looks like for these Mountaineers. Will it be the team from last years blowout via Michigan or will the team from the second half of the season make this thing interesting. Either way the Tigers are always good for one let down game a year minimum, if App catches them going through the motions this score could flip.
Clemson in a tight one 31-24.

Not sure where the perception of Clemson that they always have a letdown against lesser opponents comes from. There are only two teams in the nation that have a longer streak of beating unranked opponents than Clemson does. Clemson has won 28 games in a row against unranked teams by at least 4 points. Usually the deficit is closer to 20 or 30.

Clemson has only lost a regular season game to an unranked non-P-5 school ONCE since 1976, and that one loss was against an eventual top-10 Marshall with Randy Moss and Chad Pennington.
Clemson is 7-0 against current Sunbelt teams with an average score of 38-9
Clemson is 30-0 against FCS teams since the 1930's.
And they are 42-7 at home since 2008. 4 of those 7 losses are to top 10 teams.
Clemson, even in their crappy years, just doesn't lose to non-p-5 schools.

I was speaking more to the tune that Clemson has a history of playing down to competition, and also seem unable to put together a complete season. Never mentioned anything about P5 vs G5 winning percentage.

I would argue that beating every team you are supposed to beat 28 times in a row doesn't support any narrative that Clemson has a tendency to play down to opponents. Look at their scores from the last few years against unranked teams.

Last year... Only losses to top 15 teams
Oklahoma 40-6
South Carolina 35-17
GAST 28-0 (Clemson's starting QB and RB and WR were out)
SC St 73-7
NC State 41-0
UNC 50-35

2013 Only losses to top 15 teams
UVA 59-10
Syracuse 49-14
Citadel 52-6
Georgia Tech 55-31
Maryland 40-27
Wake Forest 56-7

2012 Only losses top top 15 teams
Ball St. 52-27
Furman 41-7
Virginia Tech 38-17
Duke 56-20
Maryland 45-10
NC State 62-48

Look for yourself...
http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/act...esults.php


They have four consecutive 10 win seasons and beat Ohio State, Oklahoma and LSU in their last 3 bowl games. They won 2/3 against Auburn over the last 5 years and never lose to teams that fit App State's description.

So if you are talking about some tendency that has anything to do with this Saturday's game between App St. and Clemson, there is nothing that remotely suggests Clemson may perform poorly.

You are right, we will lay an egg and get beat 44 - 0.

Haha, The irony is that I think it will be pretty close. I think App will do well, I swear! I just didn't understand where the perception about Clemson playing down to opponents came from. I know like 6 years ago they did that... but it's like people can't update their perception of those guys.

(09-06-2015 11:51 AM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  Lots of dwelling on Week 1's slate of games, time to move on. Week 2 looks like a perfect time to get things back together.

Appalachian State at #12 Clemson 11:30 AM ESPN3

It all depends what the mental picture inside the locker room looks like for these Mountaineers. Will it be the team from last years blowout via Michigan or will the team from the second half of the season make this thing interesting. Either way the Tigers are always good for one let down game a year minimum, if App catches them going through the motions this score could flip.
Clemson in a tight one 31-24.

Western Michigan at Georgia Southern 5:00 PM ESPN3

Willie won't let them dwell too much on the loss, Eagles don't get their QB back, but WMU gave MSU a tough game. WMU will be a tougher out, but the Eagles should slip by with some ball control on O.
Ga South 35 - 31

Northwestern State at Louisiana 6:00 PM ESPN3

Louisiana had heart in their trip to UK, getting down early but roaring to life and making things interesting in the second half. They should unload their pain on the FCS Demons who can play FBS teams hard from time to time, but not this time.
Cajuns 48 - 10

Nicholls State at Louisiana Monroe 6:00 PM ESPN3

ULM got ran out of the stadium at thUGA, if Berry wants to stay employed he better hammer Nicholls at home. If not Phil Robertson may trot out to take snaps in the second half to at least keep the fan's attention.
Warhawks 28-10

Prairie View A&M at Texas State 6:00 PM ESPN3

Bobcats will roll in this one, since they aren't trying to block or tackle NFL first round draft picks on the opponents two deep.
Bobcats 42 - 17

Charleston Southern at Troy 6:00 PM ESPN3

CSU has the coaching to play above their talent level, but Neal Brown will have the Trojans fired up to get his first win at home. The Bucs will keep it close until the air raid just wears down their defense in the 2nd half.
Trojans 49 - 28

#24 Missouri at Arkansas State 6:00 PM ESPN3

Watching Ark State at USC this week was ugly, they didn't even look like were wearing the right uniforms. Not to mention they lacked any will on the defensive side of the ball. This game won't be too much easier, but they are at home and have the talent to hang with Mizzou for at least 3 quarters.
Mizzou 42 - 24

Georgia State at New Mexico State 7:00 PM ESPN3

Can they both lose? IMHO they certainly will both give it a try. NMSU wins because they are at home, and Ga State is a hotter dumpster fire.
Aggies 30 - 29

Idaho at #8 USC 7:00 PM PAC12

I guess USC just likes to pay people to sacrifice themselves for cash. Goodluck to the Vandals, maybe USC puts their drunken coach under center and he turns the ball over a few times?
USC 61 - 10

South Alabama at Nebraska 7:00 PM BTN

Huskers got beat on a hail mary by BYU, I bet they are really pissed right now on defense. USA struggled outing Gardner Webb, yikes.
Huskers 41 - 7

If Prairie View A&M scores 17 against us I will be really disappointed. I'm guessing 65-3 final with our starters out by the second half.

(09-07-2015 03:54 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  If Prairie View A&M scores 17 against us I will be really disappointed. I'm guessing 65-3 final with our starters out by the second half.

They are rated higher in the polls than Gardner Webb who dropped 23 on South Alabama.

(09-07-2015 05:06 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 03:54 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  If Prairie View A&M scores 17 against us I will be really disappointed. I'm guessing 65-3 final with our starters out by the second half.

They are rated higher in the polls than Gardner Webb who dropped 23 on South Alabama.

Those are different teams, different schemes, different years. It is not relavant at all. Other than you want to point out what you thought (I assume you didn't watch it) was a close game.

(09-07-2015 05:57 AM)hapapp Wrote:  I think both StAte and Southern will outperform the lines at home. I think our line at Clemson is about right but we saw what happened last weekend when SBC teams ventured on to the home turf of P5 squads. So, we could be the one with lots of questions going forward. The Howard win helped provide vital playing time for backups and first timers but it doesn't give any real sense of how you will fare against a top flight P5 program. In the past, we would wear down against such opponents. We will see on Saturday if our depth can make a difference in our ability to stay in the game.

I don't think we'll wear down, per se. I think we'll get our buts kicked by a team with more talent at every position until they play their own depth. Then we'll match up well and challenge the spread.