(09-08-2015 07:18 AM)panama Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 09:27 PM)GaStPanthers Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 02:49 PM)panama Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 02:23 PM)GaStPanthers Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 01:40 PM)panama Wrote:  Curry was recruitng for FCS. His recruiting was not bad for FCS . His coaching hires were. Miles' FBS recruiting has been horrible.

Ehh....I don't know...even Miles said he wouldn't have recruited most of the guys he inherited from Curry.

(09-07-2015 01:53 PM)glsjunior74 Wrote:  We hired a staff of Midwesterners to try to recruit in the South. That's why we have a Fullback starting at RB.

Yep.

Well yeah he wouldn't have recruited them because they were FCS players. But is his recruiting better? I mean we are offering HS backups. LOL.

To clarify, Miles said he wouldn't have recruited them even if he was recruiting FCS players.

Yeah, we've put some guys in the NFL. But Curry's staff had a horrible reputation in Georgia high schools.

In my opinion, Curry's time had passed him; and, he should of retired a year earlier than he did.

Age was not why we had a terrible reputation in high schools. His assistants gave us a terrible reputation in high schools. They were baaaad. Funny, we're talking about Curry being too old and 61 year old Terry Bowden in the same sentence. Bill Snyder would like a word...

As for Miles and who he would recruit, again, we just offered a backup DL. I am struggling to see where recruiting is better under Miles.

Cause it's not. It's the same.

BLAH BLAH BLAH NFL PLAYERS....whatever

Yes you may have had a few good players, but overall your recruiting has been crap for your entire existence. People have tried telling you that the entire time but no one wanted to hear it.

(09-08-2015 07:44 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(09-08-2015 07:18 AM)panama Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 09:27 PM)GaStPanthers Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 02:49 PM)panama Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 02:23 PM)GaStPanthers Wrote:  Ehh....I don't know...even Miles said he wouldn't have recruited most of the guys he inherited from Curry.


Yep.

Well yeah he wouldn't have recruited them because they were FCS players. But is his recruiting better? I mean we are offering HS backups. LOL.

To clarify, Miles said he wouldn't have recruited them even if he was recruiting FCS players.

Yeah, we've put some guys in the NFL. But Curry's staff had a horrible reputation in Georgia high schools.

In my opinion, Curry's time had passed him; and, he should of retired a year earlier than he did.

Age was not why we had a terrible reputation in high schools. His assistants gave us a terrible reputation in high schools. They were baaaad. Funny, we're talking about Curry being too old and 61 year old Terry Bowden in the same sentence. Bill Snyder would like a word...

As for Miles and who he would recruit, again, we just offered a backup DL. I am struggling to see where recruiting is better under Miles.

Cause it's not. It's the same.

BLAH BLAH BLAH NFL PLAYERS....whatever

Yes you may have had a few good players, but overall your recruiting has been crap for your entire existence. People have tried telling you that the entire time but no one wanted to hear it.

Well you guys do obsess about every tiny detail of our program so yeah you would probably know.

(09-08-2015 08:25 AM)panama Wrote:  

(09-08-2015 07:44 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(09-08-2015 07:18 AM)panama Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 09:27 PM)GaStPanthers Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 02:49 PM)panama Wrote:  Well yeah he wouldn't have recruited them because they were FCS players. But is his recruiting better? I mean we are offering HS backups. LOL.

To clarify, Miles said he wouldn't have recruited them even if he was recruiting FCS players.

Yeah, we've put some guys in the NFL. But Curry's staff had a horrible reputation in Georgia high schools.

In my opinion, Curry's time had passed him; and, he should of retired a year earlier than he did.

Age was not why we had a terrible reputation in high schools. His assistants gave us a terrible reputation in high schools. They were baaaad. Funny, we're talking about Curry being too old and 61 year old Terry Bowden in the same sentence. Bill Snyder would like a word...

As for Miles and who he would recruit, again, we just offered a backup DL. I am struggling to see where recruiting is better under Miles.

Cause it's not. It's the same.

BLAH BLAH BLAH NFL PLAYERS....whatever

Yes you may have had a few good players, but overall your recruiting has been crap for your entire existence. People have tried telling you that the entire time but no one wanted to hear it.

Well you guys do obsess about every tiny detail of our program so yeah you would probably know.

Nice deflection.

Well, being football fans we know the details of each team in Georgia. You are not a special snowflake.

(09-08-2015 08:25 AM)panama Wrote:  

(09-08-2015 07:44 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(09-08-2015 07:18 AM)panama Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 09:27 PM)GaStPanthers Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 02:49 PM)panama Wrote:  Well yeah he wouldn't have recruited them because they were FCS players. But is his recruiting better? I mean we are offering HS backups. LOL.

To clarify, Miles said he wouldn't have recruited them even if he was recruiting FCS players.

Yeah, we've put some guys in the NFL. But Curry's staff had a horrible reputation in Georgia high schools.

In my opinion, Curry's time had passed him; and, he should of retired a year earlier than he did.

Age was not why we had a terrible reputation in high schools. His assistants gave us a terrible reputation in high schools. They were baaaad. Funny, we're talking about Curry being too old and 61 year old Terry Bowden in the same sentence. Bill Snyder would like a word...

As for Miles and who he would recruit, again, we just offered a backup DL. I am struggling to see where recruiting is better under Miles.

Cause it's not. It's the same.

BLAH BLAH BLAH NFL PLAYERS....whatever

Yes you may have had a few good players, but overall your recruiting has been crap for your entire existence. People have tried telling you that the entire time but no one wanted to hear it.

Well you guys do obsess about every tiny detail of our program so yeah you would probably know.

So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.

(09-08-2015 07:18 AM)panama Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 09:27 PM)GaStPanthers Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 02:49 PM)panama Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 02:23 PM)GaStPanthers Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 01:40 PM)panama Wrote:  Curry was recruitng for FCS. His recruiting was not bad for FCS . His coaching hires were. Miles' FBS recruiting has been horrible.

Ehh....I don't know...even Miles said he wouldn't have recruited most of the guys he inherited from Curry.

(09-07-2015 01:53 PM)glsjunior74 Wrote:  We hired a staff of Midwesterners to try to recruit in the South. That's why we have a Fullback starting at RB.

Yep.

Well yeah he wouldn't have recruited them because they were FCS players. But is his recruiting better? I mean we are offering HS backups. LOL.

To clarify, Miles said he wouldn't have recruited them even if he was recruiting FCS players.

Yeah, we've put some guys in the NFL. But Curry's staff had a horrible reputation in Georgia high schools.

In my opinion, Curry's time had passed him; and, he should of retired a year earlier than he did.

Age was not why we had a terrible reputation in high schools. His assistants gave us a terrible reputation in high schools. They were baaaad. Funny, we're talking about Curry being too old and 61 year old Terry Bowden in the same sentence. Bill Snyder would like a word...

As for Miles and who he would recruit, again, we just offered a backup DL. I am struggling to see where recruiting is better under Miles.

I wasn't referring to age so much as I was his ability to coach. He spent a lot of time in the booth. I'm not sure he was prepared to coach. To me, his assistants ruining the reputation in high schools is a reflection of Curry's inability to be a coach. He let them have the reigns after all.

Also, he had a career losing record. We can make excuses for that all day. But his W-L record is his W-L record.

(09-08-2015 10:44 AM)GaStPanthers Wrote:  

(09-08-2015 07:18 AM)panama Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 09:27 PM)GaStPanthers Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 02:49 PM)panama Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 02:23 PM)GaStPanthers Wrote:  Ehh....I don't know...even Miles said he wouldn't have recruited most of the guys he inherited from Curry.


Yep.

Well yeah he wouldn't have recruited them because they were FCS players. But is his recruiting better? I mean we are offering HS backups. LOL.

To clarify, Miles said he wouldn't have recruited them even if he was recruiting FCS players.

Yeah, we've put some guys in the NFL. But Curry's staff had a horrible reputation in Georgia high schools.

In my opinion, Curry's time had passed him; and, he should of retired a year earlier than he did.

Age was not why we had a terrible reputation in high schools. His assistants gave us a terrible reputation in high schools. They were baaaad. Funny, we're talking about Curry being too old and 61 year old Terry Bowden in the same sentence. Bill Snyder would like a word...

As for Miles and who he would recruit, again, we just offered a backup DL. I am struggling to see where recruiting is better under Miles.

I wasn't referring to age so much as I was his ability to coach. He spent a lot of time in the booth. I'm not sure he was prepared to coach. To me, his assistants ruining the reputation in high schools is a reflection of Curry's inability to be a coach. He let them have the reigns after all.

Also, he had a career losing record. We can make excuses for that all day. But his W-L record is his W-L record.

I don't think you forget football. He was an ACC and SEC coach of the year. Like I said, what I faulted him for was subpar assistants that he refused to fire. How much of that was budget related an Cheryl related we may never know. I also think he was not the type of guy to take the easy job. I mean he took Tech when they were pitiful. Then he takes Kentucky where nobody has won since the 1950's and then he takes a startup. Program builders are usually not going to have winning records. Schnellenberger has a winning record at the U obviously but losing records at Louisville and FAU I think. But those two programs owe him a lot. I still say the bigger issue with us was indecision at the begging of the program that caused us to delay making a definitive FBS decision until 2012. There are players in our first 2 recruiting cycles we would never have recruited if our intent was FBS from the beginning. One defensive starter for 3 years transferred to Charlotte for his final season likely because he knew he couldn't beat out the kids coming in.

(09-08-2015 08:38 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(09-08-2015 08:25 AM)panama Wrote:  

(09-08-2015 07:44 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(09-08-2015 07:18 AM)panama Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 09:27 PM)GaStPanthers Wrote:  To clarify, Miles said he wouldn't have recruited them even if he was recruiting FCS players.

Yeah, we've put some guys in the NFL. But Curry's staff had a horrible reputation in Georgia high schools.

In my opinion, Curry's time had passed him; and, he should of retired a year earlier than he did.

Age was not why we had a terrible reputation in high schools. His assistants gave us a terrible reputation in high schools. They were baaaad. Funny, we're talking about Curry being too old and 61 year old Terry Bowden in the same sentence. Bill Snyder would like a word...

As for Miles and who he would recruit, again, we just offered a backup DL. I am struggling to see where recruiting is better under Miles.

Cause it's not. It's the same.

BLAH BLAH BLAH NFL PLAYERS....whatever

Yes you may have had a few good players, but overall your recruiting has been crap for your entire existence. People have tried telling you that the entire time but no one wanted to hear it.

Well you guys do obsess about every tiny detail of our program so yeah you would probably know.

So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.

It's just football

I need a drink

This gets brought up all the time, but are there any examples of drop back qb's switching to a triple option? If HS QB's can be converted to a ton of other positions why not a rushing QB?

Despite what we saw on Friday, I don't think our offense is going to be the focus of our problems as this season plays out. Our OL may try to make this the case, but I think Arbuckle and his receivers are going to show better going forward than that first half indicated. Arbuckle had a good year on a bad team last year, and I think he can still do the same this year.

One of the hardest things to deal with on offense in the first game is an attacking D, especially when in our case it was not what was done the previous year (we ran much more vanilla zone). This weekend will tell a lot about your team, you're only a 5.5 point dog to NMSU, if you're not competitive in that game then it could tell the tale. If you're able to get some of that stuff on O corrected, then you might get out of there with a W.

Gstate missing it's top receiver too, despite Arbuckle's comments about good chemistry with the other guys, maybe some of his shakiness last week was due to missing his #1 guy. Harden is supposed to be back what game 3 or 4?

Read on AJC that Harden(WR) might play this weekend, so that is a good sign for the Panthers.

(09-08-2015 01:59 PM)boroeagle2 Wrote:  Gstate missing it's top receiver too, despite Arbuckle's comments about good chemistry with the other guys, maybe some of his shakiness last week was due to missing his #1 guy. Harden is supposed to be back what game 3 or 4?

...and #2 Ruiz

(09-08-2015 11:19 AM)nsavandal09 Wrote:  This gets brought up all the time, but are there any examples of drop back qb's switching to a triple option? If HS QB's can be converted to a ton of other positions why not a rushing QB?

I dont think a drop back passer becomes a runnng QB often. We converted one to TE this year. Kelton Hill who was a dual threar run first QB was converted to WR. But all of our guys are drop back pocket passer guys.