AState has a beat reporter who can find a negative spin on a $5 million donation.
School has told him don't file an FOI. Just ask, anything that can be legally given will be given (prior AD demanded an FOI for even trivial matters). He gets full access to records, coaches and players like everyone else. The school bends over backwards to help him.

Doesn't change his attitude but I know his editor has spiked at least one story because he felt it was trivial, something that never happened when AState played the confrontation game.

(09-01-2015 09:25 PM)HappyAppy Wrote:  Time for Idaho to go. It would be worth it to have such an extreme geographical outlier if it was a legit program like NDSU or Montana. Definitely not worth it for a dumpster fire of a football program run by these clowns.

So you'd rather have a program that covered up rapes committed by their football players than a program who has a coach that yelled at a reporter once?

(09-02-2015 10:11 AM)dtd_vandal Wrote:  

(09-01-2015 09:25 PM)HappyAppy Wrote:  Time for Idaho to go. It would be worth it to have such an extreme geographical outlier if it was a legit program like NDSU or Montana. Definitely not worth it for a dumpster fire of a football program run by these clowns.

So you'd rather have a program that covered up rapes committed by their football players than a program who has a coach that yelled at a reporter once?

It seems to be more then a coach who yelled at a reporter once. There is the confrontation with the reporter. Then there is trying to get certain media banned. Also, if I recall, I read an article about some players who shoplifted from the team store recently. They should have been arrested but Petrino made the charges go away.

Not sure what school in the Sun Belt covered up rapes, but my point was that a winning program would make up for a lot of negatives. If we are going to bring in a geographical outlier, with little fan support, and an administration with an SEC-like entitlement complex, I wish they would at least win some football games. Seems like it would save everybody a lot of headaches if we just added any southeastern FCS school. Even if they go 1-11 in front of 5,000 fans every year, at least they wouldn't be on the other side of the country.

No offense to you, I know you are just defending your program. Just don't think it makes sense in the Sun Belt, especially with EKU wanting to move up.

(09-02-2015 10:34 AM)HappyAppy Wrote:  

(09-02-2015 10:11 AM)dtd_vandal Wrote:  

(09-01-2015 09:25 PM)HappyAppy Wrote:  Time for Idaho to go. It would be worth it to have such an extreme geographical outlier if it was a legit program like NDSU or Montana. Definitely not worth it for a dumpster fire of a football program run by these clowns.

So you'd rather have a program that covered up rapes committed by their football players than a program who has a coach that yelled at a reporter once?

It seems to be more then a coach who yelled at a reporter once. There is the confrontation with the reporter. Then there is trying to get certain media banned. Also, if I recall, I read an article about some players who shoplifted from the team store recently. They should have been arrested but Petrino made the charges go away.

Not sure what school in the Sun Belt covered up rapes, but my point was that a winning program would make up for a lot of negatives. If we are going to bring in a geographical outlier, with little fan support, and an administration with an SEC-like entitlement complex, I wish they would at least win some football games. Seems like it would save everybody a lot of headaches if we just added any southeastern FCS school. Even if they go 1-11 in front of 5,000 fans every year, at least they wouldn't be on the other side of the country.

No offense to you, I know you are just defending your program. Just don't think it makes sense in the Sun Belt, especially with EKU wanting to move up.

I was talking about Montana, just trying to make the point that the few things that happened at Idaho (Petrino yelling at a reporter, closing practice to the media, and petty theft by a few players) are pretty trivial compared with what happens at a lot of other schools.

Ass clown coach on the right and ass clown college reporters on the left who think they already have the world figured out. I can sympathize with disliking college rags our own George Ann has been an endless supply of garbage with team of "reporters" you have yet to install spell check apparently. Slightly better these days though. It is what it is, in couple of years most of these "journalist" will be jaded narcissist at best writing obits and covering the Little Miss Pigs Feet beauty pageant while a fresh crop of geniuses will be telling us where the best mocha latte can be found around campus. It still amazes me how coaches do not get how "journalist" live to create stories and controversy and why they can't just ignore them. Why bother reading someone's opinion about what you are doing when they likely can't even throw a spiral much less have ever played the game. If you can't handle some nobody local criticizing you how do expect to get a P5 job where folks are criticizing coaches like Saban for daring to lose four games in two years with audiences of millions??

(09-02-2015 10:46 AM)dtd_vandal Wrote:  

(09-02-2015 10:34 AM)HappyAppy Wrote:  

(09-02-2015 10:11 AM)dtd_vandal Wrote:  

(09-01-2015 09:25 PM)HappyAppy Wrote:  Time for Idaho to go. It would be worth it to have such an extreme geographical outlier if it was a legit program like NDSU or Montana. Definitely not worth it for a dumpster fire of a football program run by these clowns.

So you'd rather have a program that covered up rapes committed by their football players than a program who has a coach that yelled at a reporter once?

It seems to be more then a coach who yelled at a reporter once. There is the confrontation with the reporter. Then there is trying to get certain media banned. Also, if I recall, I read an article about some players who shoplifted from the team store recently. They should have been arrested but Petrino made the charges go away.

Not sure what school in the Sun Belt covered up rapes, but my point was that a winning program would make up for a lot of negatives. If we are going to bring in a geographical outlier, with little fan support, and an administration with an SEC-like entitlement complex, I wish they would at least win some football games. Seems like it would save everybody a lot of headaches if we just added any southeastern FCS school. Even if they go 1-11 in front of 5,000 fans every year, at least they wouldn't be on the other side of the country.

No offense to you, I know you are just defending your program. Just don't think it makes sense in the Sun Belt, especially with EKU wanting to move up.

I was talking about Montana, just trying to make the point that the few things that happened at Idaho (Petrino yelling at a reporter, closing practice to the media, and petty theft by a few players) are pretty trivial compared with what happens at a lot of other schools.

True and coach yelling at a reporter is minor even though he should know better. Unfortunately his last name gives him a smaller window for bad behaviour he should know that as well fair or not. As far as the student paper have a placate the little mouth breathers with a symbolic meeting and call it the day.

I find most collegiate paper reporters to be stuffed with overblown motions of their importance. Attach their egos to steady steel cables and you have some new balloons for the Macy parade.

Some minor local reporters are mad because one of their collegeaues made an ass out of himself, got in a huge argument with the head coach and was subsequently banned from practice.

I know it can be hard to believe that when you rely on access to another organization and you piss them off it may have consequences. As a result a freelance blogger and student paper stood up in solidarity for him. My friend teaches a HS yearbook class and had 2 senior editors threaten to resign in protest over a layout theme and they probably have as much power as these wannabe reporters.

Idaho could have handled this better and the reporter damn sure could have handled this better, but this isn't exactly the washington post we're dealing with here.

(09-01-2015 08:32 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(09-01-2015 08:08 PM)Fredo Wrote:  Link

Does this kind of crazy stuff happen anywhere else in the SunBelt?

Not since Florida International left.

Well played sir. You need the rimshot emoticon at the end of that line.

(09-02-2015 10:46 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  Ass clown coach on the right and ass clown college reporters on the left who think they already have the world figured out. I can sympathize with disliking college rags our own George Ann has been an endless supply of garbage with team of "reporters" you have yet to install spell check apparently. Slightly better these days though. It is what it is, in couple of years most of these "journalist" will be jaded narcissist at best writing obits and covering the Little Miss Pigs Feet beauty pageant while a fresh crop of geniuses will be telling us where the best mocha latte can be found around campus. It still amazes me how coaches do not get how "journalist" live to create stories and controversy and why they can't just ignore them. Why bother reading someone's opinion about what you are doing when they likely can't even throw a spiral much less have ever played the game. If you can't handle some nobody local criticizing you how do expect to get a P5 job where folks are criticizing coaches like Saban for daring to lose four games in two years with audiences of millions??

Actually had some pretty good reporters come out of Georgia Southern and the George Anne, and for a college paper it's not that bad (I've seen far worse judging College Press Association contests).
It is a teaching tool and there is a learning curve, and there are those who probably have no business being a reporter because they were raised to believe they're the smartest thing on the planet and everyone gives a **** what they have to say. That's not reporting. But that's also not an indictment on the paper or the school or journalism, it's a societal thing, the result of two generations of self-esteemers telling their offspring they're the center of the universe.
But let's face it -- everybody thinks they're right these days. And smarter than the other guy. Unless that other guy does something we approve of, then they're ok.

Some journalists probably do live to create stories and controversy, though I don't personally know any who do. I do know most won't back away from a story if it's important, but life's too damn short to go looking for fights.
I'd also suggest the biggest impediment to quality journalism isn't the reporters, it's publishers looking for hits on a website so they can sell ads. They'll push for more controversy in a heartbeat, unless it's controversy that might run off an advertiser.

Trying to run 24-hour newsrooms with minimal staffs is also a detriment to good reporting.

And I've played the game up to the high school level and can throw a spiral, thanks.

(09-03-2015 01:08 PM)nsavandal09 Wrote:  I know it can be hard to believe that when you rely on access to another organization and you piss them off it may have consequences.

It can also be hard to believe that if you rely on press organizations to provide information to the public about your organization and you piss them off it may have consequences.