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RE: Sunbelt Championship Game?
(09-01-2015 05:50 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 04:57 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 04:54 PM)Bigtom12 Wrote:  Now that we have 12 teams for football. What city, and what venue should host the the Sunbelt Championship Game?

I personally believe that the team who has the best conference record should host, but what are yall thoughts?

If it was a neutral site I am thinking New Orleans, Superdome but that may be redundant since we already have the NO Bowl.

This makes the most sense, economially, and from a fan draw perspective . . . . Best Record Hosts . . . Also provides another incentitive for winning on the field . . .

Sounds small time.
Not as small time as having 7,000 fans show up to a neutral site game.

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RE: Sunbelt Championship Game?
(09-01-2015 07:58 PM)Eagleditka Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 07:56 PM)DawggoneEagle Wrote:  What about this place :
http://www.jsums.edu/dome/

I like this place better.

http://www.gseagles.com/sports/2013/7/23...aspx?id=16

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RE: Sunbelt Championship Game?
(09-01-2015 08:16 PM)The Black Flag Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 05:50 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 04:57 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 04:54 PM)Bigtom12 Wrote:  Now that we have 12 teams for football. What city, and what venue should host the the Sunbelt Championship Game?

I personally believe that the team who has the best conference record should host, but what are yall thoughts?

If it was a neutral site I am thinking New Orleans, Superdome but that may be redundant since we already have the NO Bowl.

This makes the most sense, economially, and from a fan draw perspective . . . . Best Record Hosts . . . Also provides another incentitive for winning on the field . . .

Sounds small time.
Not as small time as having 7,000 fans show up to a neutral site game.

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This is a joke to 87, I don't really want a neutral site game. He claims App thinks small time, my point is we think logically.

We would prefer the home site CCG.
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RE: Sunbelt Championship Game?
(09-01-2015 05:50 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 04:57 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 04:54 PM)Bigtom12 Wrote:  Now that we have 12 teams for football. What city, and what venue should host the the Sunbelt Championship Game?

I personally believe that the team who has the best conference record should host, but what are yall thoughts?

If it was a neutral site I am thinking New Orleans, Superdome but that may be redundant since we already have the NO Bowl.

This makes the most sense, economially, and from a fan draw perspective . . . . Best Record Hosts . . . Also provides another incentitive for winning on the field . . .

Sounds small time.

But if you had it at a neutral site, how would Appy afford to get there ... . Assuming they did get there ... . 04-cheers
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Sunbelt Championship Game?
(09-01-2015 07:58 PM)Eagleditka Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 07:56 PM)DawggoneEagle Wrote:  What about this place :
http://www.jsums.edu/dome/

I like this place better.

http://www.gseagles.com/sports/2013/7/23...aspx?id=16

That's where it was held last year. Might as well make it a tradition.
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RE: Sunbelt Championship Game?
(09-01-2015 08:22 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 08:16 PM)The Black Flag Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 05:50 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 04:57 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 04:54 PM)Bigtom12 Wrote:  Now that we have 12 teams for football. What city, and what venue should host the the Sunbelt Championship Game?

I personally believe that the team who has the best conference record should host, but what are yall thoughts?

If it was a neutral site I am thinking New Orleans, Superdome but that may be redundant since we already have the NO Bowl.

This makes the most sense, economially, and from a fan draw perspective . . . . Best Record Hosts . . . Also provides another incentitive for winning on the field . . .

Sounds small time.
Not as small time as having 7,000 fans show up to a neutral site game.

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This is a joke to 87, I don't really want a neutral site game. He claims App thinks small time, my point is we think logically.

We would prefer the home site CCG.

I don't know if you "think small time" or not ... . I do know that many of your posters do a lot of complaining about FBS Travel. ... . If you say that's small time, so be it ... . 04-cheers
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RE: Sunbelt Championship Game?
(09-01-2015 06:35 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 06:20 PM)nickp Wrote:  the Liberty Bowl in Memphis with a capacity of 61k might be an option



Memphis is a dangerous town. The stadium is in a bad area.

I've been to the liberty bowl stadium hundreds of times and never had a problem with danger. Great sight lines too. That said, it is a bad idea re fan support. The locals wont buy tickets.
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RE: Sunbelt Championship Game?
(09-01-2015 06:35 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 06:20 PM)nickp Wrote:  the Liberty Bowl in Memphis with a capacity of 61k might be an option

Memphis is a dangerous town. The stadium is in a bad area.

Seminole Indian...is that you?
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RE: Sunbelt Championship Game?
(09-01-2015 08:47 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 06:35 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 06:20 PM)nickp Wrote:  the Liberty Bowl in Memphis with a capacity of 61k might be an option



Memphis is a dangerous town. The stadium is in a bad area.

I've been to the liberty bowl stadium hundreds of times and never had a problem with danger. Great sight lines too. That said, it is a bad idea re fan support. The locals wont buy tickets.

But there are nice friendly homeless guys who will first offer to buy a ticket from you, and then sell you one at a higher price than the one they bought.
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RE: Sunbelt Championship Game?
(09-01-2015 08:44 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 08:22 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 08:16 PM)The Black Flag Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 05:50 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 04:57 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  This makes the most sense, economially, and from a fan draw perspective . . . . Best Record Hosts . . . Also provides another incentitive for winning on the field . . .

Sounds small time.
Not as small time as having 7,000 fans show up to a neutral site game.

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This is a joke to 87, I don't really want a neutral site game. He claims App thinks small time, my point is we think logically.

We would prefer the home site CCG.

I don't know if you "think small time" or not ... . I do know that many of your posters do a lot of complaining about FBS Travel. ... . If you say that's small time, so be it ... . 04-cheers

I enjoy that you believe if you post the same thing over and over that is becomes fact. Your defition of many is different than mine.

But hey we got the member we wanted so however App thinks it appears the SBC presidents think the same way.
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RE: Sunbelt Championship Game?
(09-01-2015 08:44 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 08:22 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 08:16 PM)The Black Flag Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 05:50 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 04:57 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  This makes the most sense, economially, and from a fan draw perspective . . . . Best Record Hosts . . . Also provides another incentitive for winning on the field . . .

Sounds small time.
Not as small time as having 7,000 fans show up to a neutral site game.

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This is a joke to 87, I don't really want a neutral site game. He claims App thinks small time, my point is we think logically.

We would prefer the home site CCG.

I don't know if you "think small time" or not ... . I do know that many of your posters do a lot of complaining about FBS Travel. ... . If you say that's small time, so be it ... . 04-cheers
I think app and southern fans are just a lot more realistic about the scope and reach of our fan bases.

Smaller packed house will always look better than big and empty.

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Sunbelt Championship Game?
There are two reasonable options.
1. Rotate east/west
2. Hosted by division champ rated the highest in the power ratings used to rank the conferences presuming not ranked in the CFP poll.
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RE: Sunbelt Championship Game?
It makes the most sense to not have this hosted at a neutral site.

I say it would go to team with the best conference record, but odds are good that both division champs would have the same record, so the tiebreaker should be height of the school's backup Center. Or poll ranking... either/or, really.
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(09-01-2015 09:18 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  There are two reasonable options.
1. Rotate east/west
2. Hosted by division champ rated the highest in the power ratings used to rank the conferences presuming not ranked in the CFP poll.
I prefer option 2. It is the fair solution IMHO.
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RE: Sunbelt Championship Game?
Additional question now that it's two divisions if divisions were for this year which side is better:
Georgia Southern vs Louisiana
Arkansas State vs Appalachian State
Coastal Carolina vs Texas State
UL-Monroe vs South Alabama
Troy vs New Mexico State
Idaho vs Georgia State
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If you go by college football rpi numbers the East is better
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RE: Sunbelt Championship Game?
(09-01-2015 09:18 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  There are two reasonable options.
1. Rotate east/west
2. Hosted by division champ rated the highest in the power ratings used to rank the conferences presuming not ranked in the CFP poll.

I don't like rotating. You could theoretically have a ranked GS having to travel to an unranked Idaho. Why would you want to give your best shot at Access Bowl cash a harder time of it?
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RE: Sunbelt Championship Game?
I'm for highest ranked team in polls/rankings to host. It's a reward to the fans of the school that hosts, a revenue generator, and keeps costs down.

Some interesting things said today in Benson's teleconference. Some pretty telling things.

First, there was a high degree of non-committal on nmsu and Idaho. And Benson really confirmed the separation between the affiliates and the full members in the decision to add coastal. The decision was about completing the division format committed to three years ago for the sole purpose of building a stable conference for its full members.

Another key revelation is that affiliates will be discussed after ncaa ruling on deregulation of championships. I have to say: if the ncaa in fact deregulates, it's very bad news for both Idaho and NMSU's future in the sun belt.

Should the proposed ruling pass, there is an excellent chance Idaho is gone, and NMSU only stays if the group decides to stay at 12 football playing members. So, another full member would need to be added should full membership be extended to NMSU. However, it may never come to that if NMSU's affiliate status is voted to be terminated by the membership.

UTA's intentions to add football would need to be announced to the conference before the NCAA championship in Phoenix. While I rate this possibility rather low, should UTA decide to field football... it would also likely mean that NMSU and Idaho are both through in the SBC.

So back to Benson: He clearly stated that the decision is 10 or 12 in football. It has to be 12 if NCAA rules to uphold 12 team championships. If championship deregulation passes, the decision to even have a conference championship can be completely disconnected from the decision to continue with affiliate members.

What does this all mean? It means the conference intended from the spring meetings to add a member to complete its division structure. And now, we are covered either way the NCAA championship deregulation decision goes. If the propsed rule passes: I fully expect that puts both affiliate members on the clock.

At best, NMSU will get one more chance to be considered as a full member. If they do get in, it almost certainly means another east division member is invited to balance the committed divisional structure. A more likely scenario is the league shrinks to 10/12 in football/basketball and focuses on the decision to hold a championship and agree on a format. We could then allow time for UTA to develop a football program and passively evaluate potential future members that can contribute and make geographic sense within the divisional footprints.
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(09-01-2015 08:51 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 06:35 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 06:20 PM)nickp Wrote:  the Liberty Bowl in Memphis with a capacity of 61k might be an option

Memphis is a dangerous town. The stadium is in a bad area.

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(09-01-2015 10:26 PM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  I'm for highest ranked team in polls/rankings to host. It's a reward to the fans of the school that hosts, a revenue generator, and keeps costs down.

Some interesting things said today in Benson's teleconference. Some pretty telling things.

First, there was a high degree of non-committal on nmsu and Idaho. And Benson really confirmed the separation between the affiliates and the full members in the decision to add coastal. The decision was about completing the division format committed to three years ago for the sole purpose of building a stable conference for its full members.

Another key revelation is that affiliates will be discussed after ncaa ruling on deregulation of championships. I have to say: if the ncaa in fact deregulates, it's very bad news for both Idaho and NMSU's future in the sun belt.

Should the proposed ruling pass, there is an excellent chance Idaho is gone, and NMSU only stays if the group decides to stay at 12 football playing members. So, another full member would need to be added should full membership be extended to NMSU.

UTA's decision to add football would need to be announced to the conference before the NCAA championship in Phoenix. While I rate this possibility rather low, should UTA decide to field football... it would also likely mean that NMSU and Idaho are both through in the SBC.

So back to Benson: He clearly stated that the decision is 10 or 12 in football. It has to be 12 if NCAA rules to uphold 12 team championships. If championship deregulation passes, the decision to even have a conference championship can be completely disconnected from the decision to continue with affiliate members.

What does this all mean? It means the conference intended from the spring meetings to add a member to complete its division structure. And now, we are covered either way the NCAA championship deregulation decision goes. If the propsed rule passes: I fully expect that puts both affiliate members on the clock.

At best, NMSU will get one more chance to be considered as a full member. If they do get in, it almost certainly means another east division member is invited to balance the committed divisional structure. A more likely scenario is the league shrinks to 10/12 in football/basketball and focuses on the decision to hold a championship and agree on a format.

I think we need to strive to be at 12 football regardless of whether or not deregulation passes. There is safety in numbers. Other conferences can react to conference realignment by reaching into other FBS conferences due to the current "pecking order". The Sun Belt is the only one that is, at this time, really forced to transition FCS programs.
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