Based on city size and school size I see no reason why Coastal Carolina cannot build up an Appalachian- or Marshall-sized fan base.

But what they don't have is a history of playing football where families have a tradition of going to games...that will take time to build.

What will happen to CCU when their billionaire coach leaves? Where will the money come from then?

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(08-29-2015 08:12 AM)Colonels12 Wrote:  What will happen to CCU when their billionaire coach leaves? Where will the money come from then?

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I'll let a Chant fan answer that question, but the money doesn't come from the coach. Read a few post up from this one that I talk about the Horry county tourism sales tax that directly benefits CCU.

I'm a bit amazed it's actually happening.

(08-29-2015 08:36 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 08:12 AM)Colonels12 Wrote:  What will happen to CCU when their billionaire coach leaves? Where will the money come from then?

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I'll let a Chant fan answer that question, but the money doesn't come from the coach. Read a few post up from this one that I talk about the Horry county tourism sales tax that directly benefits CCU.

Pretty much. Moglia and DeCenzo have both said that Moglia won't fund or donate to the program while he is the coach so as not to give the wrong impression. He will make some calls though. He also said that once he leaves a program that he'll likely show his appreciation - so when he leaves we may actually have more funding but no guarantee. The biggest issue would be his replacement but supposedly they are looking at one or two folks currently on staff for his replacement. But who knows what will happen?

(08-29-2015 08:53 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 08:36 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 08:12 AM)Colonels12 Wrote:  What will happen to CCU when their billionaire coach leaves? Where will the money come from then?

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I'll let a Chant fan answer that question, but the money doesn't come from the coach. Read a few post up from this one that I talk about the Horry county tourism sales tax that directly benefits CCU.

Pretty much. Moglia and DeCenzo have both said that Moglia won't fund or donate to the program while he is the coach so as not to give the wrong impression. He will make some calls though. He also said that once he leaves a program that he'll likely show his appreciation - so when he leaves we may actually have more funding but no guarantee. The biggest issue would be his replacement but supposedly they are looking at one or two folks currently on staff for his replacement. But who knows what will happen?

A billion dollars is like grass seed growing in south Georgia. You just hold the bag up and point and poof knee high grass everywhere. He may not write the check but Moglia get's whatever he needs.

The big question is will Coastal keep football in the Big South for a while. I don't think our member schools will mind and the Big South is certainly in no position to tell Coastal to take a hike.

(08-28-2015 04:28 PM)NashvilleEagle Wrote:  3. Really funny hearing the fledging upstarts GSU and USA turn their collective noses up at CCU.

Who said GSU is against CCU?

(08-29-2015 12:29 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 12:22 AM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  Looking forward to Sunday my gut tells me 2, it'll be announced idaho won't be renewed after their contract is up

I expect we will hear nothing at all out of the conference on Sunday, and half this board will be pulling their hair out by the end of the day.

How long can they keep a decision from leaking if they try to keep it under wraps?

(08-29-2015 09:34 AM)GaStPanthers Wrote:  

(08-28-2015 04:28 PM)NashvilleEagle Wrote:  3. Really funny hearing the fledging upstarts GSU and USA turn their collective noses up at CCU.

Who said GSU is against CCU?

And I too have supported CCU, can't say that about EKU. I'll be satisfied with that add, would have still preferred no one added right now.

(08-29-2015 05:31 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  The concern I see is they don't show the same immediate potential that Georgia Southern and Appalachian State had when they first joined the Sun Belt. Coastal Carolina has been in the FCS playoffs four out of the last five seasons. Yet, the last five years their average attendance hasn't every been in the FCS top 30 (in attendance) like Ga.So. and App State were yearly prior to making the FBS move. Even Liberty right now is averaging near 17K in attendance yearly. There is still a question whether Conway, SC population (16,317) can support an FBS program.

2010: 7,762 (record: 6-6, Big South Co-Champs, FCS 1st round), Stadium Capacity: 9,112
2011: 8,365 (record: 7-4)
2012: 8,030 (record: 8-5, Big South Co-Champs, FCS 2nd round) Stadium "New" Capacity: 9,214
2013: 7,468 (record: 12-3, Big South Co-Champs, FCS Quarter Finals)
2014: 8,727 (record: 12-2, Big South Co-Champs, FCS Quarter Finals)

With Coastal Carolina's recent football success, I would think the SBC's Presidents, and ADs would've liked to have seen the CCU Administration be more "proactive" about about their desire to be in the FBS by expanding their stadium and fan base over 15K prior to an SBC invite rather than simply "expecting" the SBC Expansion Committee to take their word that they can meet FBS requirements if invited; considering the possibility they might not be able to sustain their recent football success.

Despite the SBC's desire to get to 12 members, the SBC still has the luxury of waiting to see if Coastal Carolina and the others will really show the commitment needed to build their football programs up to an FBS level.

For a conference game against Charleston Southern this season, CCU had an attendance of 10,194 in their 9,200 seat stadium. In four conference games at NMSU this past season, your home attendance was:

Georgia Southern - 10,256
Texas State - 8,623
ULM - 6,011
UL - 10,299

That was in a 30,000 seat stadium. If CCU can draw 10,194 fans for Charleston Southern in a 9,200 seat stadium, just imagine what they could do in a 20,000 seat stadium against Georgia Southern.

I think New Mexico State needs to decide to make a commitment to FBS football and not worry about Coastal Carolina.

(08-29-2015 07:40 AM)rbostic218 Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 07:26 AM)JTApps1 Wrote:  

(08-28-2015 11:44 PM)slycat Wrote:  CCU isn't ready facility or support wise.

Neither is EKU but those seem to be the options. At least CCU is up to par in every sport besides football.

No, they are kind of up to par in football, at least with the bottom half of the Sunbelt. You've watch enough FCS teams play to know they match up quite well with a lot of the lower g5 teams and can probably wipe them off the map.

I guess I just want to see their plans. If they can get to 15,000+ attendance and get rid of the kid turf then I'm excited for them. I know they say tehy will expand but I wonder how soon it'll get done. TXST and GS were very aggressive about expansion and got it done by the time they join FBS conferences. I hope CCU is prepared to execute the same way.

EKU is ahead of CCU in this regard. But they just d0on't seem like as sexy of a pick as CCU. I guess I'm willing for anything that gets NMSU oly here. So I'm hoping for all three.

(08-29-2015 11:04 AM)slycat Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 07:40 AM)rbostic218 Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 07:26 AM)JTApps1 Wrote:  

(08-28-2015 11:44 PM)slycat Wrote:  CCU isn't ready facility or support wise.

Neither is EKU but those seem to be the options. At least CCU is up to par in every sport besides football.

No, they are kind of up to par in football, at least with the bottom half of the Sunbelt. You've watch enough FCS teams play to know they match up quite well with a lot of the lower g5 teams and can probably wipe them off the map.

I guess I just want to see their plans. If they can get to 15,000+ attendance and get rid of the kid turf then I'm excited for them. I know they say they will expand but I wonder how soon it'll get done. TXST and GS were very aggressive about expansion and got it done by the time they join FBS conferences. I hope CCU is prepared to execute the same way.

EKU is ahead of CCU in this regard. But they just d0on't seem like as sexy of a pick as CCU. I guess I'm willing for anything that gets NMSU oly here. So I'm hoping for all three.

Thing is, TXST had a 15K stadium and couldn't get to 15K until after we started "The Drive". Now we're at 20K; which still needs to get better. With going into season 101 of football you would wish it to be better but we sucked for a lot of those past 100 seasons. CCU has had football since 2003. It will take time.

I'm not sure Coastal Carolina is the correct decision right now. By all previous measures for moving up (Georgia Southern, Appalachian State, Texas State), Coastal just doesn't measure up to being an FBS school at this juncture. They have a small enrollment, small football and basketball facilities, and will have a hard time meeting the NCAA attendance requirements. The do have good overall athletics with an athletic budget of $23,374,712 which would make them fifth in the belt. Maybe this is enough for the rest of the league to issue an invite. I'd prefer New Mexico State all sports, and then wait for James Madison to finally come around, then maybe pair them up with Coastal (which should have their stadium upgraded by then). If EKU had Coastal's budget, they would be in tomorrow.

(08-29-2015 10:42 AM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 05:31 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  The concern I see is they don't show the same immediate potential that Georgia Southern and Appalachian State had when they first joined the Sun Belt. Coastal Carolina has been in the FCS playoffs four out of the last five seasons. Yet, the last five years their average attendance hasn't every been in the FCS top 30 (in attendance) like Ga.So. and App State were yearly prior to making the FBS move. Even Liberty right now is averaging near 17K in attendance yearly. There is still a question whether Conway, SC population (16,317) can support an FBS program.

2010: 7,762 (record: 6-6, Big South Co-Champs, FCS 1st round), Stadium Capacity: 9,112
2011: 8,365 (record: 7-4)
2012: 8,030 (record: 8-5, Big South Co-Champs, FCS 2nd round) Stadium "New" Capacity: 9,214
2013: 7,468 (record: 12-3, Big South Co-Champs, FCS Quarter Finals)
2014: 8,727 (record: 12-2, Big South Co-Champs, FCS Quarter Finals)

With Coastal Carolina's recent football success, I would think the SBC's Presidents, and ADs would've liked to have seen the CCU Administration be more "proactive" about about their desire to be in the FBS by expanding their stadium and fan base over 15K prior to an SBC invite rather than simply "expecting" the SBC Expansion Committee to take their word that they can meet FBS requirements if invited; considering the possibility they might not be able to sustain their recent football success.

Despite the SBC's desire to get to 12 members, the SBC still has the luxury of waiting to see if Coastal Carolina and the others will really show the commitment needed to build their football programs up to an FBS level.

For a conference game against Charleston Southern this season, CCU had an attendance of 10,194 in their 9,200 seat stadium. In four conference games at NMSU this past season, your home attendance was:

Georgia Southern - 10,256
Texas State - 8,623
ULM - 6,011
UL - 10,299

That was in a 30,000 seat stadium. If CCU can draw 10,194 fans for Charleston Southern in a 9,200 seat stadium, just imagine what they could do in a 20,000 seat stadium against Georgia Southern.

I think New Mexico State needs to decide to make a commitment to FBS football and not worry about Coastal Carolina.

Really? NMSU is ALREADY in the Sun Belt for football. And, NMSU is working on improving their program. So, you're just slinging mud at a fellow Sun Belt member to see what sticks. In prior years, NMSU has already proven they can draw well over 15K per game... and that is with a lousy football program. NMSU just needs a stable home and coaching staff now.

What I am talking about adding another "FCS school". And, I am questioning whether Coastal Carolina can support (attendance wise) an FBS program when their are no attendance numbers to supported it. But since you like to point out NMSU's current deficiencies... because not every school in the conference can be at the top like Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, Louisiana, and Arkansas State... if CCU doesn't have a "winning" program, like in NMSU's current state, will CCU have any fans to support their program during the down years?

(08-29-2015 11:37 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  if CCU doesn't have a "winning" program, like in NMSU's current state, will CCU have any fans to support their program during the down years?

The answer is no. But we have played in front of completely empty stadiums at FIU before and it didn't matter. Empty Tulane games didn't matter. The #Maction is still #Maction even with nobody there.

Is it ideal? Certainly not. But it wouldn't be anything that unusual.

http://www.libertyflamesnation.com/the-h...-its-hand/

(08-29-2015 07:30 AM)EKUSteve Wrote:  http://www.theadvertiser.com/story/sport.../71349570/

So the meeting is tomorrow in Dallas according to this article.

That is correct.

Things may change tomorrow...and someone, after several ballots, may be added. But as I type this, no one has enough votes.

This isn't so much about who schools favor as much as it is who they will not accept. These votes will be more against a school than for one.

I do think sooner or later, schools will be persuaded to change their votes. And we may add someone tomorrow.

But if we do there will have been some serious arm twisting.

(08-28-2015 03:39 PM)moehler Wrote:  what, your billionaire coach is going to buy 15,000 tickets a game and give them away just to get people to show up?

GaSt doesn't have a billionaire coach and 3,500 show up for games. They'll figure it out.

(08-29-2015 09:36 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 12:29 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 12:22 AM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  Looking forward to Sunday my gut tells me 2, it'll be announced idaho won't be renewed after their contract is up

I expect we will hear nothing at all out of the conference on Sunday, and half this board will be pulling their hair out by the end of the day.

How long can they keep a decision from leaking if they try to keep it under wraps?

Depends on the wishes of the school that was invited, and how secret this needs to be kept. If a school is invited, they would need to negotiate their exit from their current league, and then organize a press conference.

In the case of App State/GS, the rumor of their admission came out about a day before the school called a "historic" press conference.