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(08-16-2015 01:54 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  I didn't say he was the best ever but IN the Sunbelt who is better.

Without giving it much thought, ULL's AD has an athletic dept. which is competitive in multiple sports nationally.

I'd rank him above Mohajir for starters.
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(08-16-2015 02:02 PM)asuwon Wrote:  
(08-16-2015 01:54 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  I didn't say he was the best ever but IN the Sunbelt who is better.

Without giving it much thought, ULL's AD has an athletic dept. which is competitive in multiple sports nationally.

I'd rank him above Mohajir for starters.

I know fan support doesn't factor into ratings, but there are a lot of ULL fans who would dump Farmer right now if they had the chance. He didn't really grow those programs, he was just handed the keys...and they've honestly not grown a ton since.

I really think the guy at ULM is probably the best in the league. He's completely turned around that basketball program with the support of Keith Richard, and he managed to raise the money to build new facilities for football despite not having a ton of money available to him. He also canned their baseball coach last year before their program started to tailspin, rather than waiting till the end of the season.

His next big move will probably be inevitable firing of Todd Berry if ULM doesn't impress in football next year.
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(08-16-2015 02:02 PM)asuwon Wrote:  
(08-16-2015 01:54 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  I didn't say he was the best ever but IN the Sunbelt who is better.

Without giving it much thought, ULL's AD has an athletic dept. which is competitive in multiple sports nationally.

I'd rank him above Mohajir for starters.

If Jonesboro were the lead city in a metro-statistical area of over 600,000 with an economy fueled by major oil and gas companies, and the cultural capitol of a unique and tight-knit ethnic group....it might be easier on Terry.

A more accurate judgment can be rendered by comparing the state of the program under him to the state of the program under all previous AD's.
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(08-16-2015 02:11 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  A more accurate judgment can be rendered by comparing the state of the program under him to the state of the program under all previous AD's.

Ok.

How many Bubas cups has ASU won under his leadership?

I know our past ADs directed athletic departments who won some.
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(08-16-2015 02:30 PM)asuwon Wrote:  Ok.

How many Bubas cups has ASU won under his leadership?

I know our past ADs directed athletic departments who won some.

Bubas Cups. Well, I guess you got me there.
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(08-16-2015 02:55 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(08-16-2015 02:30 PM)asuwon Wrote:  Ok.

How many Bubas cups has ASU won under his leadership?

I know our past ADs directed athletic departments who won some.

Bubas Cups. Well, I guess you got me there.

I don't want to get rid of the guy, by any means. I think he's doing a good job, not the best in the conference, but I'm glad we have him.

However, he needed to do something about our men's basketball program yesterday and all I've heard is excuses as to why he hasn't.

For the first time since the Convocation Center opened, (since the 1960's, if you want to count Indian Fieldhouse) neither I, nor any member of my family will be buying season tickets.

When the product you put on the floor is abysmal enough to run off season ticket holders of that many years, you have a major problem.

And, what has Mohajir done to address it?

I'm hard pressed to come up with anything. You?
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(08-16-2015 05:02 PM)asuwon Wrote:  When the product you put on the floor is abysmal enough to run off season ticket holders of that many years, you have a major problem.

And, what has Mohajir done to address it?

I'm hard pressed to come up with anything. You?

New video boards and replacing the seating in the Convo are probably not just to make a prettier status quo. I'd rather have those during the next coaching search than pay Brady not to coach a year earlier and not have them when the next coaching candidates come to look.

That's not that much but we really are dealing with limited resources.

You are right, basketball is a train wreck, but that's pretty much true for most of the Sun Belt....and for me pretty much true for college basketball in general.

Even if we hire a new coach we probably still won't recognize the players that rotate in and out from year to year and we probably won't be seeing LSU or Memphis popping up at the Convo a lot. We'll still be a one-bid league where the tourney champ goes to the dance and nobody else does.

How does Terry fix all that? Dunno.
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(08-16-2015 05:26 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  New video boards and replacing the seating in the Convo are probably not just to make a prettier status quo. I'd rather have those during the next coaching search than pay Brady not to coach a year earlier and not have them when the next coaching candidates come to look.

The old mythical ASU basketball "next coaching search." Haha. I'll believe it when I see it. The video boards and new seating were needed and are an improvement. However, neither will be enjoyed by more than a handful of people until changes are made.

(08-16-2015 05:26 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  How does Terry fix all that? Dunno.

As far as I can tell, he is as clueless as you and I, on how to fix the problem, and if he thought basketball attendance was bad last year, wait until he gets a load of it this year. I've spoken to several season ticket holders who sit in my section, and they aren't renewing either. It's going to be FIU football attendance bad. It was close last year.
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(08-16-2015 05:26 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(08-16-2015 05:02 PM)asuwon Wrote:  When the product you put on the floor is abysmal enough to run off season ticket holders of that many years, you have a major problem.

And, what has Mohajir done to address it?

I'm hard pressed to come up with anything. You?

New video boards and replacing the seating in the Convo are probably not just to make a prettier status quo. I'd rather have those during the next coaching search than pay Brady not to coach a year earlier and not have them when the next coaching candidates come to look.

That's not that much but we really are dealing with limited resources.

You are right, basketball is a train wreck, but that's pretty much true for most of the Sun Belt....and for me pretty much true for college basketball in general.

Even if we hire a new coach we probably still won't recognize the players that rotate in and out from year to year and we probably won't be seeing LSU or Memphis popping up at the Convo a lot. We'll still be a one-bid league where the tourney champ goes to the dance and nobody else does.

How does Terry fix all that? Dunno.

Why would good basketball players want to play games in front of Sun Belt crowds, and not on TV? It is over for men's basketball. Doesn't matter what Terry does. Might as well keep investing in football and hope that somehow lifts basketball.

Even if you luck up and get a good one, they'll go to the NBA or Georgia Tech first chance they get. I don't like it, but that is reality.
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(08-16-2015 05:50 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  Why would good basketball players want to play games in front of Sun Belt crowds, and not on TV? It is over for men's basketball. Doesn't matter what Terry does. Might as well keep investing in football and hope that somehow lifts basketball.

Even if you luck up and get a good one, they'll go to the NBA or Georgia Tech first chance they get. I don't like it, but that is reality.

The regular season is pretty meaningless. The conference tourney is all that matters. Only one comes out alive. That's going to be true for whoever replaces Brady.
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All I know is the way our Men's basketball program is going now, we'd be almost better off without one. It's a drain on the program in general. That has to be fixed.
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(08-16-2015 06:06 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(08-16-2015 05:50 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  Why would good basketball players want to play games in front of Sun Belt crowds, and not on TV? It is over for men's basketball. Doesn't matter what Terry does. Might as well keep investing in football and hope that somehow lifts basketball.

Even if you luck up and get a good one, they'll go to the NBA or Georgia Tech first chance they get. I don't like it, but that is reality.

The regular season is pretty meaningless. The conference tourney is all that matters. Only one comes out alive. That's going to be true for whoever replaces Brady.

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(08-16-2015 06:13 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  All I know is the way our Men's basketball program is going now, we'd be almost better off without one. It's a drain on the program in general. That has to be fixed.

Exactly.

Without a fix, the the bigger the drain becomes.

Other than sitting on press row across from Brady and scowling the entire game, have you seen, or heard of any ideas for a fix emanating from our athletic department?

I haven't.
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I don't think this thread reflects his intentions for the challenge.
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(08-16-2015 07:11 PM)asuwon Wrote:  
(08-16-2015 06:13 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  All I know is the way our Men's basketball program is going now, we'd be almost better off without one. It's a drain on the program in general. That has to be fixed.

Exactly.

Without a fix, the the bigger the drain becomes.

Other than sitting on press row across from Brady and scowling the entire game, have you seen, or heard of any ideas for a fix emanating from our athletic department?

I haven't.

I've not heard anything more than typical AD Fluff from him when it comes to fixing or improving any Olympic Sport. I like him, but he needs to start taking some action.

The fact that we're not able to pay other Olympic Sport Coaches and assistants what we would like while Brady gets 450K to do nothing bothers me.
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(08-16-2015 08:47 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I've not heard anything more than typical AD Fluff from him when it comes to fixing or improving any Olympic Sport. I like him, but he needs to start taking some action.

The fact that we're not able to pay other Olympic Sport Coaches and assistants what we would like while Brady gets 450K to do nothing bothers me.

That reads like we're on the same page.

Action.

That's what I want to see... not excuses.

I've grown tired of excusing our men's basketball program.

Get it frickin' done.
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what i noticed is he ran the wrong way with it after catching it. someone needs to explain that to him.
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dahbeed - has it become much more difficult for the 'toppers to schedule quality non-conference opponents at Diddle in recent years?

Brady, Mohajir, and Zvosek claim that it is virtually impossible to get a quality non-conference home/home in Jonesboro.
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i'd say it's difficult to try to get a big conference school in.

we've had to work deals. we play louieville 2 times up there and once in nashville to get them to come here 1 time.

we've played teams like ole miss at home because they stole our a.d. and we had it in his contract that wherever he went he would owe us ball games.

we had the same thing in petrino's contract for football and i still haven't seen proof we'll ever see them here in football.

we were playing murray every year and they have good respect. we now have belmont and even though they're not a big name hoops people know who they are.

i'd say it's very difficult to get a good team in jonesboro simply because you haven't been very good and would hurt an rpi. yet until last year you were pretty damn tough at home. so why would a school chance losing against a high rpi team?

but i'd imagine you could get the belmonts and murrays. pretty sure you just finished up a home and home with them.

you guys do a great job on your football scheduling. but my guess is brady wants no part of a difficult schedule now.

back to your original question though. by quality non conference opponents do you mean good basketball teams or name land grand universities? because those aren't necessarily the same.
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(08-17-2015 09:19 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  i'd say it's difficult to try to get a big conference school in.

we've had to work deals. we play louieville 2 times up there and once in nashville to get them to come here 1 time.

we've played teams like ole miss at home because they stole our a.d. and we had it in his contract that wherever he went he would owe us ball games.

we had the same thing in petrino's contract for football and i still haven't seen proof we'll ever see them here in football.

we were playing murray every year and they have good respect. we now have belmont and even though they're not a big name hoops people know who they are.

i'd say it's very difficult to get a good team in jonesboro simply because you haven't been very good and would hurt an rpi. yet until last year you were pretty damn tough at home. so why would a school chance losing against a high rpi team?

but i'd imagine you could get the belmonts and murrays. pretty sure you just finished up a home and home with them.

you guys do a great job on your football scheduling. but my guess is brady wants no part of a difficult schedule now.

back to your original question though. by quality non conference opponents do you mean good basketball teams or name land grand universities? because those aren't necessarily the same.

Dahbeed, my friend, we need to get an H&H cooking between the Toppers and the Cajuns. We promise to only play 6 guys at once at your house.
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