(08-14-2015 09:49 AM)APPrising Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 09:35 AM)polkhigh Wrote:  I would rather watch Marshall play games against Louisiana, Arkansas State, Texas State, Georgia Southern, and Appalachian State. CUSA is over.

Well, perhaps you guys are the mystery 3rd expansion candidate...

Are Southern Miss and Louisiana Tech the other two?

(08-14-2015 09:43 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 09:35 AM)polkhigh Wrote:  I would rather watch Marshall play games against Louisiana, Arkansas State, Texas State, Georgia Southern, and Appalachian State. CUSA is over.

Then you better get on the phone to your AD before the Sun Belt adds EKU.

Old Dominion is one of the few schools in conference I like.

(08-14-2015 10:03 AM)panama Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 09:35 AM)polkhigh Wrote:  I would rather watch Marshall play games against Louisiana, Arkansas State, Texas State, Georgia Southern, and Appalachian State. CUSA is over.

I want us to play close by schools that will draw local interest regardless off conference.

Me too. I'm pretty excited to come down to ATL for our matchup in a few weeks.

(08-14-2015 09:31 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  I bet those MAC games were on ESPN during the middle of the week with no other football competition. The only reason they are getting numbers like that is because ESPN is the "default" channel for football in every sports bar and home in America. You cant make an apples to apples comparison between the CUSA and the MAC because of this. Most people watching couldn't care what G5 team was playing. They just want to watch some football. I suspect if CUSA games were on that channel the numbers would be much higher.

Don't you guys get your chance this year too?

(08-14-2015 09:05 AM)panama Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 08:41 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 08:39 AM)APPrising Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 08:24 AM)panama Wrote:  You read a lot into that story that was not written or even implied

"So, don't be surprised if the culmination of this scenario results in C-USA's new television contract being less lucrative than its former pact.
All the signs are pointing in that direction."

and

"When Marshall conducted its first practice of preseason camp last Friday, only 13 of the 25 signees were present. Five of the missing recruits appear to be academic non-qualifiers. They (remaining six excluding a late enrollee) aren't expected ever to join MU's program."

Why else would the other 6 just not show up on campus? Did they just all of a sudden decide they didn't want to play football anymore?

He's probably talking about the part about the media market strategy not working. That wasn't mentioned in the article, but of course we all know it's true.

...or the reason for Banowsky supposedly bolting. I am sure a better job was not part of that decision process...

I didn't draw that from the article. It's been my opinion ever since Banowsky bolted. He's well known in the industry and obviously knows what's going on behind closed doors. He knows what's coming and imo getting out while the getting bis good.

(08-14-2015 09:49 AM)APPrising Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 09:35 AM)polkhigh Wrote:  I would rather watch Marshall play games against Louisiana, Arkansas State, Texas State, Georgia Southern, and Appalachian State. CUSA is over.

Well, perhaps you guys are the mystery 3rd expansion candidate...

That's a high hanging curveball if I've ever seen one. Waiting on somebody to put it in the cheap seats...

(08-14-2015 10:03 AM)panama Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 09:35 AM)polkhigh Wrote:  I would rather watch Marshall play games against Louisiana, Arkansas State, Texas State, Georgia Southern, and Appalachian State. CUSA is over.

I want us to play close by schools that will draw local interest regardless off conference.

Breaking news: C-USA's next TV contract likely to be worse than it is now.

In completely unrelated news, Houston, SMU, UCF, Tulsa, ECU, Memphis, and Tulane are no longer in the conference.

Side note: Marshall is still in the conference.

Thus concludes my take-away from that article.

(08-14-2015 11:48 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  Breaking news: C-USA's next TV contract likely to be worse than it is now.

In completely unrelated news, Houston, SMU, UCF, Tulsa, ECU, Memphis, and Tulane are no longer in the conference.

Side note: Marshall is still in the conference.

Thus concludes my take-away from that article.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

(08-14-2015 11:48 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  Breaking news: C-USA's next TV contract likely to be worse than it is now.

In completely unrelated news, Houston, SMU, UCF, Tulsa, ECU, Memphis, and Tulane are no longer in the conference.

Side note: Marshall is still in the conference.

Thus concludes my take-away from that article.

Exactly!

(08-14-2015 10:28 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 09:31 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  I bet those MAC games were on ESPN during the middle of the week with no other football competition. The only reason they are getting numbers like that is because ESPN is the "default" channel for football in every sports bar and home in America. You cant make an apples to apples comparison between the CUSA and the MAC because of this. Most people watching couldn't care what G5 team was playing. They just want to watch some football. I suspect if CUSA games were on that channel the numbers would be much higher.

Don't you guys get your chance this year too?

Not sure what your asking.

(08-14-2015 09:31 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 09:08 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 08:54 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 08:38 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Don't know if it's really going to matter if Banowsky is available or not, CUSA's TV deal will tank. How would it not?

MAC gets $800,000/yr per school while having some of the worst attendance and viewership numbers in D1.

CUSA is not dropping below the MAC, so even if we got the same deal as them, I wouldn't call a $200,000 reduction tanking.

You guys are ******* comical.

What is likely to happen is the MAC, CUSA, and SBC all end up around the same level. CUSA isn't going to tank, but the SBC's TV money may skyrocket to put them at or near the same level as CUSA and the MAC instead of the embarrassingly low levels it is right now.

Also, this line is absurd:

Quote:But, now, it appears highly doubtful that Banowsky, who led Conference USA for nearly 13 years, will be around for those talks.

TV contract talks aren't something you start discussing a few months before the contract expires. Banowsky has already been very involved in those talks. Chances are, the networks already have a good idea of what they're willing to pay and they're just waiting around for a second season of CUSA 3.0 football to finish up so they can gauge the ratings and finalize the numbers.

Have you compared ratings numbers? The most watched CUSA game was La.Tech - Marshall with 725,000 viewers. Most watched CUSA regular season game was Marshall - WKU with 463,000 viewers. Third most watched on networks reporting ratings was 277K for UTEP/Rice

MAC: Ohio v. Miami (OH) 564,000
BGSU v Toledo 556,000
Toledo-NIU 600,000
NIU-Ball St 533,000

The MAC had four games outdraw the second most watched CUSA game. Didn't bother comparing the third most-watched CUSA game.

When NIU was relevant they were drawing audiences double that, topping a million viewers.

I bet those MAC games were on ESPN during the middle of the week with no other football competition. The only reason they are getting numbers like that is because ESPN is the "default" channel for football in every sports bar and home in America. You cant make an apples to apples comparison between the CUSA and the MAC because of this. Most people watching couldn't care what G5 team was playing. They just want to watch some football. I suspect if CUSA games were on that channel the numbers would be much higher.

You're right, but credit the MAC, they got that contract and that money because they were willing to take midweek games.

If CUSA stays with Fox, its entirely possible you could end up with a smaller TV deal than the MAC, playing games in front of smaller audiences on a channel that most people don;'t receive. But hey, at least you'll be on Saturday.

A couple midweek games a year can be good for a G5 program. Maybe not the crazy numbers the MAC takes, but one Tuesday game a year doesn't hurt anyone.

(08-14-2015 12:21 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  You're right, but credit the MAC, they got that contract and that money because they were willing to take midweek games.

If CUSA stays with Fox, its entirely possible you could end up with a smaller TV deal than the MAC, playing games in front of smaller audiences on a channel that most people don;'t receive. But hey, at least you'll be on Saturday.

A couple midweek games a year can be good for a G5 program. Maybe not the crazy numbers the MAC takes, but one Tuesday game a year doesn't hurt anyone.

Mid-week games on the road have been very good for the Cajuns.

(08-14-2015 12:09 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 10:28 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 09:31 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  I bet those MAC games were on ESPN during the middle of the week with no other football competition. The only reason they are getting numbers like that is because ESPN is the "default" channel for football in every sports bar and home in America. You cant make an apples to apples comparison between the CUSA and the MAC because of this. Most people watching couldn't care what G5 team was playing. They just want to watch some football. I suspect if CUSA games were on that channel the numbers would be much higher.

Don't you guys get your chance this year too?

Not sure what your asking.

Mid-week games. Doesn't C-USA have some this year too?

(08-14-2015 12:32 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 12:09 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 10:28 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  Don't you guys get your chance this year too?

Not sure what your asking.

Mid-week games. Doesn't C-USA have some this year too?

Not really. There are 3 Thursday games and 5 non-Black Friday games. No Mon, Tues, or Wed games.

http://www.conferenceusa.com/sports/m-fo...15aaj.html

So Tuesday is mid-week, but Thursday isn't, got it.

(08-14-2015 10:03 AM)panama Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 09:35 AM)polkhigh Wrote:  I would rather watch Marshall play games against Louisiana, Arkansas State, Texas State, Georgia Southern, and Appalachian State. CUSA is over.

I want us to play close by schools that will draw local interest regardless off conference.

......while being in a conference full of large market programs.

Isn't that the way the rest of that statement goes?

(08-14-2015 12:21 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 09:31 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 09:08 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 08:54 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 08:38 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Don't know if it's really going to matter if Banowsky is available or not, CUSA's TV deal will tank. How would it not?

MAC gets $800,000/yr per school while having some of the worst attendance and viewership numbers in D1.

CUSA is not dropping below the MAC, so even if we got the same deal as them, I wouldn't call a $200,000 reduction tanking.

You guys are ******* comical.

What is likely to happen is the MAC, CUSA, and SBC all end up around the same level. CUSA isn't going to tank, but the SBC's TV money may skyrocket to put them at or near the same level as CUSA and the MAC instead of the embarrassingly low levels it is right now.

Also, this line is absurd:

Quote:But, now, it appears highly doubtful that Banowsky, who led Conference USA for nearly 13 years, will be around for those talks.

TV contract talks aren't something you start discussing a few months before the contract expires. Banowsky has already been very involved in those talks. Chances are, the networks already have a good idea of what they're willing to pay and they're just waiting around for a second season of CUSA 3.0 football to finish up so they can gauge the ratings and finalize the numbers.

Have you compared ratings numbers? The most watched CUSA game was La.Tech - Marshall with 725,000 viewers. Most watched CUSA regular season game was Marshall - WKU with 463,000 viewers. Third most watched on networks reporting ratings was 277K for UTEP/Rice

MAC: Ohio v. Miami (OH) 564,000
BGSU v Toledo 556,000
Toledo-NIU 600,000
NIU-Ball St 533,000

The MAC had four games outdraw the second most watched CUSA game. Didn't bother comparing the third most-watched CUSA game.

When NIU was relevant they were drawing audiences double that, topping a million viewers.

I bet those MAC games were on ESPN during the middle of the week with no other football competition. The only reason they are getting numbers like that is because ESPN is the "default" channel for football in every sports bar and home in America. You cant make an apples to apples comparison between the CUSA and the MAC because of this. Most people watching couldn't care what G5 team was playing. They just want to watch some football. I suspect if CUSA games were on that channel the numbers would be much higher.

You're right, but credit the MAC, they got that contract and that money because they were willing to take midweek games.

If CUSA stays with Fox, its entirely possible you could end up with a smaller TV deal than the MAC, playing games in front of smaller audiences on a channel that most people don;'t receive. But hey, at least you'll be on Saturday.

A couple midweek games a year can be good for a G5 program. Maybe not the crazy numbers the MAC takes, but one Tuesday game a year doesn't hurt anyone.

I would much rather play on Saturday even if it meant we receive less money. I think it is better for the program and the fan base, however, I don't think our deal will be smaller than the MAC.



I agree a couple midweek games aren't bad, but I think the MAC's strategy of playing so many is a poor one. I think they are going after the short term money grab at the expense of building their programs, fan bases, and tradition. I think that is a huge contributor to why they have the worst attendance of all conferences.

(08-14-2015 09:35 AM)polkhigh Wrote:  I would rather watch Marshall play games against Louisiana, Arkansas State, Texas State, Georgia Southern, and Appalachian State. CUSA is over.

Just my two cents but if WKU is the best thing going for CUSA outside of Marshall I concur. Most of the fans on this board are too young to remember what these old rivalries were like. Mix in Texas state, Ark state, and some Cajun heat, my motor gets to runnin. Toss in some Southern Missihippi and even a Trojan we have ourselves some sweet jumbalaya... Seriously take the top two from Florida and my goodness. This could get good quick.

(08-14-2015 02:42 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  I agree a couple midweek games aren't bad, but I think the MAC's strategy of playing so many is a poor one. I think they are going after the short term money grab at the expense of building their programs, fan bases, and tradition. I think that is a huge contributor to why they have the worst attendance of all conferences.

Isn't going after the short term money grab about the only strategery the MAC has left? They've been around forever, no? It's not like they're a newly reshuffled conference and need to introduce their fanbases to new rivalries or build tradition.

(08-14-2015 08:31 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  Chuck Landon's a douchebag

Yep. Pretty much everyone we disagree with is a douchebag, right?