(07-17-2015 07:31 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 04:28 PM)moehler Wrote:  not into the conspiracy theories, but when he chose Charlotte, FAU, FIU, ODU, he chose them because of their tv markets, and their future potential, potential that even under the most optimistic forecast, would probably be atleast 5 or 6 years before they paid dividends to the conference in terms of national recognition with their football programs. He could have brought in much more established schools, ie: Ark St, or ULL, schools that would paid dividends now, but who aren't in great tv markets. Bottom line is he really rolled the dice bringing those 4 schools in, and then trying to convince tv networks that its worth giving them a good tv contract. Don't know the reason, but its certainly is odd timing.

WKU and La. Tech are not big markets, so its not been all about markets, what you do the field or court has come to play when they added us and La. Tech...

Or in the case of tech. Whoever begs the most.

(07-17-2015 11:23 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  "Whoooo!!!! Yeah!!!! We are number 2!!!!", Vobserver was heard yelling while waving his #2 foam finger

And FIU fans would get arrested for indecent exposure for showing your market position, 21.

(07-17-2015 11:37 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 07:31 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 04:28 PM)moehler Wrote:  not into the conspiracy theories, but when he chose Charlotte, FAU, FIU, ODU, he chose them because of their tv markets, and their future potential, potential that even under the most optimistic forecast, would probably be atleast 5 or 6 years before they paid dividends to the conference in terms of national recognition with their football programs. He could have brought in much more established schools, ie: Ark St, or ULL, schools that would paid dividends now, but who aren't in great tv markets. Bottom line is he really rolled the dice bringing those 4 schools in, and then trying to convince tv networks that its worth giving them a good tv contract. Don't know the reason, but its certainly is odd timing.

WKU and La. Tech are not big markets, so its not been all about markets, what you do the field or court has come to play when they added us and La. Tech...

Or in the case of tech. Whoever begs the most.

Yeah, I'm sure coming off a season in which their basketball and football teams were both ranked in the top 25 didn't factor in at all.

(07-17-2015 11:13 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 07:59 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 07:31 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 04:28 PM)moehler Wrote:  not into the conspiracy theories, but when he chose Charlotte, FAU, FIU, ODU, he chose them because of their tv markets, and their future potential, potential that even under the most optimistic forecast, would probably be atleast 5 or 6 years before they paid dividends to the conference in terms of national recognition with their football programs. He could have brought in much more established schools, ie: Ark St, or ULL, schools that would paid dividends now, but who aren't in great tv markets. Bottom line is he really rolled the dice bringing those 4 schools in, and then trying to convince tv networks that its worth giving them a good tv contract. Don't know the reason, but its certainly is odd timing.

WKU and La. Tech are not big markets, so its not been all about markets, what you do the field or court has come to play when they added us and La. Tech...

Wait, I thought WKU owned Nashville and Tech had Shreveport

You need to understand how this works. When Tech fans are defending their craptastic football attendance numbers (even for the biggest games), it's because they're based in Dogpatch which has 14 residents and 16 hounds. When they're defending their market, they've got N. Louisiana in their back pocket.

Try to keep up.

Childish name calling doesn't change the fact that Tech accomplished its stated goal in conference realignment, while ULL still has not. I know this simple fact eats at you, but the sooner you get around to accepting it, the sooner your bruised ego can begin to heal.

(07-17-2015 07:29 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 05:54 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 08:26 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 02:12 PM)southernwolf Wrote:  CUSA commissioner stepping down in September or October. How can we help Karl get the job?

Hummm..... Right before the new TV contracts come out. He see's the handwriting on the wall. The big market strategy is about to be proven a bust.

If CUSA doesn't get a decent TV contract, it won't only affect CUSA, it will prove to be a huge negative for all of the G5 conferences. If you're wrong, and CUSA does get a decent contract, then it is probable that the SBC will get a better deal when it negotiates it's next contract. The G5 conference are in the process of being grouped more and more closely together. What affects one, will affect all.

I'm just saying it won't be nearly as attractive as what they've had in the past. But it presents a delima for CUSA schools as they depend on that cash to offset the ridiculous travel costs associated with that league.

Ridiculous travel cost? Have you ever compared the footprint of the SBC to that of CUSA? Travel cost is about the same for both conferences.

(07-17-2015 08:44 AM)mufanatehc Wrote:  You do realize that the SBC's footprint is very similar to that of CUSA and will be even more so, should nmsu become a full member in the future.

You could say it is actually better when you look at from a division prospective. We also don't have an outlier like Idaho.

(07-17-2015 01:32 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 11:13 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 07:59 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 07:31 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 04:28 PM)moehler Wrote:  not into the conspiracy theories, but when he chose Charlotte, FAU, FIU, ODU, he chose them because of their tv markets, and their future potential, potential that even under the most optimistic forecast, would probably be atleast 5 or 6 years before they paid dividends to the conference in terms of national recognition with their football programs. He could have brought in much more established schools, ie: Ark St, or ULL, schools that would paid dividends now, but who aren't in great tv markets. Bottom line is he really rolled the dice bringing those 4 schools in, and then trying to convince tv networks that its worth giving them a good tv contract. Don't know the reason, but its certainly is odd timing.

WKU and La. Tech are not big markets, so its not been all about markets, what you do the field or court has come to play when they added us and La. Tech...

Wait, I thought WKU owned Nashville and Tech had Shreveport

You need to understand how this works. When Tech fans are defending their craptastic football attendance numbers (even for the biggest games), it's because they're based in Dogpatch which has 14 residents and 16 hounds. When they're defending their market, they've got N. Louisiana in their back pocket.

Try to keep up.

Childish name calling doesn't change the fact that Tech accomplished its stated goal in conference realignment, while ULL still has not. I know this simple fact eats at you, but the sooner you get around to accepting it, the sooner your bruised ego can begin to heal.

If you're not a woman, you should have been.

And btw, other than my use of hyperbole when describing Dogpatch, are my comments factually inaccurate? I know read everything posted on the internet with key words, LaTech, Ruston, and C-USA so I know you've seen the posts.

(07-17-2015 12:06 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 11:23 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  "Whoooo!!!! Yeah!!!! We are number 2!!!!", Vobserver was heard yelling while waving his #2 foam finger

And FIU fans would get arrested for indecent exposure for showing your market position, 21.

According to your ULL buddy, we don't exist. Can't arrest what doesn't exist. On another note, I emailed the foam finger folks and suggested they rename the #2 fingers to the Cajun fingers. Keep your fingers crossed, it may work out.

(07-16-2015 02:28 PM)moehler Wrote:  interesting, wonder why he picked that time to step down, ongoing tv contract talks, trying to stabilize the conference with the new members etc. not the most stable of times for CUSA.

Writing is on the wall, the CUSA TV contract is probably going drop quite a bit. He's getting out of dodge before its announced. Working for the CFB Playoff must pay better too.

(07-17-2015 01:08 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 11:37 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 07:31 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 04:28 PM)moehler Wrote:  not into the conspiracy theories, but when he chose Charlotte, FAU, FIU, ODU, he chose them because of their tv markets, and their future potential, potential that even under the most optimistic forecast, would probably be atleast 5 or 6 years before they paid dividends to the conference in terms of national recognition with their football programs. He could have brought in much more established schools, ie: Ark St, or ULL, schools that would paid dividends now, but who aren't in great tv markets. Bottom line is he really rolled the dice bringing those 4 schools in, and then trying to convince tv networks that its worth giving them a good tv contract. Don't know the reason, but its certainly is odd timing.

WKU and La. Tech are not big markets, so its not been all about markets, what you do the field or court has come to play when they added us and La. Tech...

Or in the case of tech. Whoever begs the most.

Yeah, I'm sure coming off a season in which their basketball and football teams were both ranked in the top 25 didn't factor in at all.

If CUSA took a football program based off one year of success...that ended up with the school getting a terrible image nationally because they turned down a bowl game, they've got lots of problems.

My guess is that it had a lot more to do with the WAC dying, and teams needing homes and fast.

(07-17-2015 01:32 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 11:13 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 07:59 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 07:31 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 04:28 PM)moehler Wrote:  not into the conspiracy theories, but when he chose Charlotte, FAU, FIU, ODU, he chose them because of their tv markets, and their future potential, potential that even under the most optimistic forecast, would probably be atleast 5 or 6 years before they paid dividends to the conference in terms of national recognition with their football programs. He could have brought in much more established schools, ie: Ark St, or ULL, schools that would paid dividends now, but who aren't in great tv markets. Bottom line is he really rolled the dice bringing those 4 schools in, and then trying to convince tv networks that its worth giving them a good tv contract. Don't know the reason, but its certainly is odd timing.

WKU and La. Tech are not big markets, so its not been all about markets, what you do the field or court has come to play when they added us and La. Tech...

Wait, I thought WKU owned Nashville and Tech had Shreveport

You need to understand how this works. When Tech fans are defending their craptastic football attendance numbers (even for the biggest games), it's because they're based in Dogpatch which has 14 residents and 16 hounds. When they're defending their market, they've got N. Louisiana in their back pocket.

Try to keep up.

Childish name calling doesn't change the fact that Tech accomplished its stated goal in conference realignment, while ULL still has not. I know this simple fact eats at you, but the sooner you get around to accepting it, the sooner your bruised ego can begin to heal.

I think you confused Fanatico with Crazy Cajun. They do look alike...it's completely understandable.

(07-16-2015 02:12 PM)southernwolf Wrote:  CUSA commissioner stepping down in September or October. How can we help Karl get the job?

Texas State's always good for a PowerPoint

(07-17-2015 01:32 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 11:13 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 07:59 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 07:31 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 04:28 PM)moehler Wrote:  not into the conspiracy theories, but when he chose Charlotte, FAU, FIU, ODU, he chose them because of their tv markets, and their future potential, potential that even under the most optimistic forecast, would probably be atleast 5 or 6 years before they paid dividends to the conference in terms of national recognition with their football programs. He could have brought in much more established schools, ie: Ark St, or ULL, schools that would paid dividends now, but who aren't in great tv markets. Bottom line is he really rolled the dice bringing those 4 schools in, and then trying to convince tv networks that its worth giving them a good tv contract. Don't know the reason, but its certainly is odd timing.

WKU and La. Tech are not big markets, so its not been all about markets, what you do the field or court has come to play when they added us and La. Tech...

Wait, I thought WKU owned Nashville and Tech had Shreveport

You need to understand how this works. When Tech fans are defending their craptastic football attendance numbers (even for the biggest games), it's because they're based in Dogpatch which has 14 residents and 16 hounds. When they're defending their market, they've got N. Louisiana in their back pocket.

Try to keep up.

Childish name calling doesn't change the fact that Tech accomplished its stated goal in conference realignment, while ULL still has not. I know this simple fact eats at you, but the sooner you get around to accepting it, the sooner your bruised ego can begin to heal.

Exactly, Latech has reached it's goal... We just started working on ours.

It's time to start boosting Benson's candidacy, we need to mention how much we love our fearless leader! If Karl Benson was a Spartan in the movie 300, the movie would be called 1. Karl Benson doesn't breathe air. He holds air hostage.

"Banowsky stepping down is a big loss for Conf Usa"

"http://g5conferencenews.blogspot.com/2015/07/britton-banowsky-stepping-down-is-big.html?m=1

(07-17-2015 04:35 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 01:32 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 11:13 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 07:59 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 07:31 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  WKU and La. Tech are not big markets, so its not been all about markets, what you do the field or court has come to play when they added us and La. Tech...

Wait, I thought WKU owned Nashville and Tech had Shreveport

You need to understand how this works. When Tech fans are defending their craptastic football attendance numbers (even for the biggest games), it's because they're based in Dogpatch which has 14 residents and 16 hounds. When they're defending their market, they've got N. Louisiana in their back pocket.

Try to keep up.

Childish name calling doesn't change the fact that Tech accomplished its stated goal in conference realignment, while ULL still has not. I know this simple fact eats at you, but the sooner you get around to accepting it, the sooner your bruised ego can begin to heal.

Exactly, Latech has reached it's goal... We just started working on ours.

We reached our stated goal in realignment, but that's just one of many goals that we have before us. Like everyone else, we're working on improving facilities, increasing fund raising, and increasing fan support. We're not where we plan to be in any of those areas yet.

(07-17-2015 06:05 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  We reached our stated goal in realignment, but that's just one of many goals that we have before us. Like everyone else, we're working on improving facilities, increasing fund raising, and increasing fan support. We're not where we plan to be in any of those areas yet.

Does Tech still have plans to field a baseball team one day?

I think cusa is a little more scared then they used to be of the SBC, back when we used to talk about comparisons we would get at best one or two we are way better elitist posts, now we get actual arguing and a lot more posters

(07-17-2015 07:06 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(07-17-2015 06:05 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  We reached our stated goal in realignment, but that's just one of many goals that we have before us. Like everyone else, we're working on improving facilities, increasing fund raising, and increasing fan support. We're not where we plan to be in any of those areas yet.

Does Tech still have plans to field a baseball team one day?

Right now we're torn between baseball and water polo. Since they're both about equal in importance, we might as well seek to excel in one as in the other.

We did hire a new baseball coach last year. We have high hopes that he's a good one. We'll see. Baseball is not our highest priority though.

By the way, did you know that the NCAA women's soccer championship had better TV ratings this year than the college world series did? Look it up. Women's soccer is more popular than college baseball. That says it all. I mean, what has ULL's baseball program gotten you guys? It hasn't done any more for you than our WBB did for us. The only things that matters in the real world are football and MBB. Will you ever come to terms with the fact that nobody gives a chit about college baseball?

(07-17-2015 07:44 PM)Check Yosef Wrote:  I think cusa is a little more scared then they used to be of the SBC, back when we used to talk about comparisons we would get at best one or two we are way better elitist posts, now we get actual arguing and a lot more posters

When you compare the top of each conference I think the SBC has more potential in football.

Marshall and La Tech. WKU?? I just don't see a whole lot although the conference is deeper than the SBC. A program like MTSU is solid, but they seem to have a ceiling that they will never break through.

I would take Ga Southern, App, ULL, Ark St, TX St over any top 5 you can come up with in CUSA. And remember, Ga Southern and App have barely transitioned so most of the additional 22 FBS scholarships are for Redshirt Freshman and Freshman just arriving on campus. Hard to believe we won't improve.