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Committee is looking at a number of options for Belt membership
(06-07-2015 06:54 PM)runamuck Wrote:  
(06-07-2015 09:50 AM)MJG Wrote:  
(06-07-2015 07:45 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Missouri state is THE best option.

1) Excellent Baseball,
2) Excellent Basketball
3) Decent Football
4) Good facilities
5) Fits our footprint
6) Fans want to be in our conference

I think You could be right but is the belt a better option for them.
Will they be willing to pay to expand their seventeen thousand seat stadium .
That is after spending thirty million last year.
Add to that FCOA questions and hurting their top sport basketball seems unlikely.

joining the belt would cost them big home crowds in basketball.

Disagree. Our crowds are shrinking now with how much we've gone down hill. Springfield supports a winner, plain and simple. Our best attended basketball seasons were when we were in the Mid Con for goodness sakes.
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RE: Committee is looking at a number of options for Belt membership
(06-06-2015 08:57 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  
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(06-06-2015 08:42 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I was told today that there are 8 schools the Belt is looking at for membership. I have no idea who they are are but surely these are part of the 8:

Eastern Kentucky
Liberty
NMSU (for all sports)

Those 3 seem certain. The other 5 could be
Coastal Carolina, Missouri St., JMU, Jacksonville St., and ?????

Why don't we just go to 20 and call it a day?

Hudz said a few years ago he was against all these FCS wannabes wanting to join his conference, so I'm gonna say the ULL answer is NO to 20.

The whole conference is made up of FBS wannabes.
06-08-2015 05:57 AM
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RE: Committee is looking at a number of options for Belt membership
(06-08-2015 05:57 AM)Sitting bull Wrote:  
(06-06-2015 08:57 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  
(06-06-2015 08:52 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  
(06-06-2015 08:42 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I was told today that there are 8 schools the Belt is looking at for membership. I have no idea who they are are but surely these are part of the 8:

Eastern Kentucky
Liberty
NMSU (for all sports)

Those 3 seem certain. The other 5 could be
Coastal Carolina, Missouri St., JMU, Jacksonville St., and ?????

Why don't we just go to 20 and call it a day?

Hudz said a few years ago he was against all these FCS wannabes wanting to join his conference, so I'm gonna say the ULL answer is NO to 20.

The whole conference is made up of FBS wannabes.

Que the folks from UL ...
06-08-2015 06:51 AM
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RE: Committee is looking at a number of options for Belt membership
(06-07-2015 10:44 PM)MSUBear42 Wrote:  
(06-07-2015 06:54 PM)runamuck Wrote:  
(06-07-2015 09:50 AM)MJG Wrote:  
(06-07-2015 07:45 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Missouri state is THE best option.

1) Excellent Baseball,
2) Excellent Basketball
3) Decent Football
4) Good facilities
5) Fits our footprint
6) Fans want to be in our conference

I think You could be right but is the belt a better option for them.
Will they be willing to pay to expand their seventeen thousand seat stadium .
That is after spending thirty million last year.
Add to that FCOA questions and hurting their top sport basketball seems unlikely.

joining the belt would cost them big home crowds in basketball.

Disagree. Our crowds are shrinking now with how much we've gone down hill. Springfield supports a winner, plain and simple. Our best attended basketball seasons were when we were in the Mid Con for goodness sakes.

This is what needs to happen, MSU, NMSU (all-sports), and a EKU, or Coastal. I would consider us a football first conference, but we do very good in baseball, Where we need to improve is basketball.

Basketball: Adding: MSU, NMSU, along with EKU Would help with basketball significantly.

Baseball: Adding MSU, with Coastal Carolina, along with USA, UL, GaSo, UTA, and Texas St., and Troy. Now you got a pretty good baseball conference.

Where all these schools are lacking is Football. Football drives the bus, and if they can't expand there stadium to at least 25,000 or put significant improvements into there facilities we don't need them in our conference.

App St., and GaSo were the two most successful football programs in the south, and Texas St. was already making the jump and improving there facilities.
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RE: Committee is looking at a number of options for Belt membership
I want to say another thing to, the sunbelt conference started as a bunch of independent schools that decided we should band together and start a conference. Schools that were committed to FBS football. We are schools that are committed to improve our facilities, and our athletic programs. We are schools that wanted to make the jump from FCS to FBS, or schools that were FBS and wanted to stay FBS.

Every school in the Sunbelt is putting money in to there athletic facilities, expanding there stadiums, building brand new athletic complexes. We are schools that want to compete with the big boys, and we are school that are willing to put the money and effort to do it.

Yall think NMSU isn't a good add, but they are committed to D-IA athletics. NMSU was in the sunbelt when it first got started I don't blame them for going to the WAC it was a better geographical fit. They are committed and they need to be added to the conference.

Ok Rant Off!!
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RE: Committee is looking at a number of options for Belt membership
(06-08-2015 07:46 AM)Bigtom12 Wrote:  I want to say another thing to, the sunbelt conference started as a bunch of independent schools that decided we should band together and start a conference. Schools that were committed to FBS football. We are schools that are committed to improve our facilities, and our athletic programs. We are schools that wanted to make the jump from FCS to FBS, or schools that were FBS and wanted to stay FBS.

Every school in the Sunbelt is putting money in to there athletic facilities, expanding there stadiums, building brand new athletic complexes. We are schools that want to compete with the big boys, and we are school that are willing to put the money and effort to do it.

Yall think NMSU isn't a good add, but they are committed to D-IA athletics. NMSU was in the sunbelt when it first got started I don't blame them for going to the WAC it was a better geographical fit. They are committed and they need to be added to the conference.

Ok Rant Off!!

You are referring to the time period the Sun Belt added football. It was a conference long before that.
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RE: Committee is looking at a number of options for Belt membership
(06-08-2015 07:46 AM)Bigtom12 Wrote:  I want to say another thing to, the sunbelt conference started as a bunch of independent schools that decided we should band together and start a conference. Schools that were committed to FBS football. We are schools that are committed to improve our facilities, and our athletic programs. We are schools that wanted to make the jump from FCS to FBS, or schools that were FBS and wanted to stay FBS.

Every school in the Sunbelt is putting money in to there athletic facilities, expanding there stadiums, building brand new athletic complexes. We are schools that want to compete with the big boys, and we are school that are willing to put the money and effort to do it.

Yall think NMSU isn't a good add, but they are committed to D-IA athletics. NMSU was in the sunbelt when it first got started I don't blame them for going to the WAC it was a better geographical fit. They are committed and they need to be added to the conference.

Ok Rant Off!!

They are committed, but not to the SunBelt.
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RE: Committee is looking at a number of options for Belt membership
(06-08-2015 08:53 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  
(06-08-2015 07:46 AM)Bigtom12 Wrote:  I want to say another thing to, the sunbelt conference started as a bunch of independent schools that decided we should band together and start a conference. Schools that were committed to FBS football. We are schools that are committed to improve our facilities, and our athletic programs. We are schools that wanted to make the jump from FCS to FBS, or schools that were FBS and wanted to stay FBS.

Every school in the Sunbelt is putting money in to there athletic facilities, expanding there stadiums, building brand new athletic complexes. We are schools that want to compete with the big boys, and we are school that are willing to put the money and effort to do it.

Yall think NMSU isn't a good add, but they are committed to D-IA athletics. NMSU was in the sunbelt when it first got started I don't blame them for going to the WAC it was a better geographical fit. They are committed and they need to be added to the conference.

Ok Rant Off!!

You are referring to the time period the Sun Belt added football. It was a conference long before that.

Yeah that's right, but I as soon as we became a football conference, that's what drove the bus.
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RE: Committee is looking at a number of options for Belt membership
I would take North Dakota St. If it meant that we would improve as a conference.
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RE: Committee is looking at a number of options for Belt membership
(06-08-2015 09:23 AM)Bigtom12 Wrote:  I would take North Dakota St. If it meant that we would improve as a conference.

I think they are happy where they are.
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RE: Committee is looking at a number of options for Belt membership
(06-08-2015 05:57 AM)Sitting bull Wrote:  
(06-06-2015 08:57 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  
(06-06-2015 08:52 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  
(06-06-2015 08:42 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I was told today that there are 8 schools the Belt is looking at for membership. I have no idea who they are are but surely these are part of the 8:

Eastern Kentucky
Liberty
NMSU (for all sports)

Those 3 seem certain. The other 5 could be
Coastal Carolina, Missouri St., JMU, Jacksonville St., and ?????

Why don't we just go to 20 and call it a day?

Hudz said a few years ago he was against all these FCS wannabes wanting to join his conference, so I'm gonna say the ULL answer is NO to 20.

The whole conference is made up of FBS wannabes.

If we didn't want to be FBS, we wouldn't be FBS. That goes for Bama and Michigan and not wanting to be goes for their old conference mates University of Chicago and Sewanee.
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RE: Committee is looking at a number of options for Belt membership
(06-08-2015 08:56 AM)APPrising Wrote:  
(06-08-2015 07:46 AM)Bigtom12 Wrote:  I want to say another thing to, the sunbelt conference started as a bunch of independent schools that decided we should band together and start a conference. Schools that were committed to FBS football. We are schools that are committed to improve our facilities, and our athletic programs. We are schools that wanted to make the jump from FCS to FBS, or schools that were FBS and wanted to stay FBS.

Every school in the Sunbelt is putting money in to there athletic facilities, expanding there stadiums, building brand new athletic complexes. We are schools that want to compete with the big boys, and we are school that are willing to put the money and effort to do it.

Yall think NMSU isn't a good add, but they are committed to D-IA athletics. NMSU was in the sunbelt when it first got started I don't blame them for going to the WAC it was a better geographical fit. They are committed and they need to be added to the conference.

Ok Rant Off!!

They are committed, but not to the SunBelt.

And you are certain your program wouldn't jump to C-USA if the invitation was extended? I understand you are committed to the SBC while you are a member, and by definition that means really just improving your performances on the field, in the class room and investing in your programs facilities. But to say your president as no commitment to growing your program beyond the SBC is small time thinking and maybe this is your programs permanent resting place.
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(06-06-2015 10:00 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(06-06-2015 08:56 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  UMass is probably the 8th one being tossed around.

Don't think so. Wouldnt make any sense because we don't need a 12th football, we need a 12th basketball. UMass doesn't help there.

NMSU-all sports, UMass fb only/UTA, Idaho fb only/UALR
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(06-08-2015 09:23 AM)Bigtom12 Wrote:  I would take North Dakota St. If it meant that we would improve as a conference.

+1

Isn't any more ridiculous than Idaho.
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RE: Committee is looking at a number of options for Belt membership
What committee is OP referring too? I haven't seen any news or anything about a committee?
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