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(05-31-2015 03:05 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(05-31-2015 02:58 PM)beauregardtroosterstillcrows4u Wrote:  Bear in mind,Birmingham has been awarded the 2021 World Games and will be needing some type of facility and that the stretch of interstate near the BJCC is about to undergo major improvements so certainly some type of organized effort could be made to take advantage of consolidated funding in these areas.

One of the stipulations of hosting the World Games is that you can only utilize the facilities you have in place now. So new facilities would not be allowed to be used during the games.

Well isn't that a funny rule....thanks for schooling......so how did we get the host role then....hmmmm. We still get to host them anyway.

I don't think it's a rule that they can't use something built after the games were announced. 2021 is a long time away. To get the games, they had to already have venues identified for each event, but if a newer, better venue for a given sport comes online I highly doubt they're going to say it can't be used.

(05-31-2015 03:16 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  

(05-31-2015 02:13 PM)BlazerDave Wrote:  I understand your passion BD but be careful with that stereotypical statement. There are many OTM folks in this fight as well. This one hasn't missed a home game in eight years.

My son, daughter and I come down with no worries. Part of my anger in the demise of football was that I have been waiting for the day my son could drive me to the games. Now that he's 16 we have no team! Curse you RW!

I know you're there, Dave, and many others. While it is a blanket statement, there is a good bit of truth in it. You know as well as I do that there are OTM families who are not going to let their little girl and her friend go to the game, or will at least discourage it. It is dumb and unjustified, but that bugaboo is out there, that fear of the scary black people who live near there.

So, yes, I apologize to the OTM faithful, but I stand by much of the premise nonetheless. Get the games to a new facility in an area that is perceived as safer and it will help attendance.

It's a good thing Birmingham managed to put all the racists over the mountain. I remember once upon a time they lived all over the city.

Plenty of them there too.

Key word to that facilities statement by the World Games is "ideally". If better facilities are built I bet they get used.

(05-31-2015 03:41 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  I don't think it's a rule that they can't use something built after the games were announced. 2021 is a long time away. To get the games, they had to already have venues identified for each event, but if a newer, better venue for a given sport comes online I highly doubt they're going to say it can't be used.

That's how I read that too. I'm not looking it up, but the quoted section does not say that you cannot use new infrastructure.

(05-31-2015 03:41 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  I don't think it's a rule that they can't use something built after the games were announced. 2021 is a long time away. To get the games, they had to already have venues identified for each event, but if a newer, better venue for a given sport comes online I highly doubt they're going to say it can't be used.

I quoted the comment that stated in their bylaws that no new facilities can be built for the games unless it was part of the proposal that won the games for Birmingham. So for instance if a MPF was part of the proposal then yes it can be used.

(05-31-2015 03:56 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  Plenty of them there too.

Key word to that facilities statement by the World Games is "ideally". If better facilities are built I bet they get used.

If they were part of the proposal only. I bet if new facilities are built and they were not part of the proposal they would not be used because it would be violate their bylaws. Ideally more than likely refers to any new facilities in the proposal. But y'all interpret the laws anyway you like.

(05-31-2015 04:32 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(05-31-2015 03:56 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  Plenty of them there too.

Key word to that facilities statement by the World Games is "ideally". If better facilities are built I bet they get used.

If they were part of the proposal only. I bet if new facilities are built and they were not part of the proposal they would not be used because it would be violate their bylaws. Ideally more than likely refers to any new facilities in the proposal. But y'all interpret the laws anyway you like.

It doesn't explicitly say what you are reading into it though. Unless there is something more than you posted, I don't read that as you can't build and use new facilities if you would like.

Then I guess we'll see in 2021 right......

While the International Olympic Committee grants its patronage to all editions of The World Games, and while the IWGA explicitly accepts and adheres to all principles in the Olympic Charter, the multi-sport games differ in one important aspect from the Olympics. The host is never required to build facilities or extend upon available infrastructure for the sake of The World Games alone. Ideally, the event is to be staged at existing venues, in appropriately sized facilities that have been planned or built regardless of the candidate host bidding for the event. This condition influences the composition of The World Games program. Not all sports feature necessarily on every edition. Existing infratsructure and venues in and around the host city are the determining factor in the selection of  sports to the Official Sports Program.

https://www.theworldgames.org/the-world-...orld-games

And then you have this:

http://m.wvtm13.com/news/birmingham-begi...s/30931730

Birmingham begins preparing, fundraising for 2021 World Games

Excerpt:
Topping Birmingham's to-do list is making improvements to Legion Field, one of the venues to be used in the Games.

"Over the next five years, we will continue to make those improvements to support using Legion Field as one of the main venues for the World Games," Bell said.

The city will build no new venues for the World Games, though Bell expects some may need upgrades.

Nobody was arguing the city was building new infrastructure, the argument was that if it was built that it could be used.

(05-31-2015 09:23 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  Nobody was arguing the city was building new infrastructure, the argument was that if it was built that it could be used.

The committee stated after being awarded the bid that only the current infrastructure could be use for the games. But whatever........

I took that admonition to be based on the World Games folks wishing to avoid the fuss the IOC gets because of the millions spent by nations for putting on the Olympic games causing great enduring debt by host cities. They are likely trying to get cities which already have most of what facilities they will need already in place. They also seem to stick to sports that have no major specialized venues like luge tracks or huge stadiums.

Let's get the program back and build some facilities and grow. Then we can worry about a stadium.

(05-30-2015 06:23 PM)Smaug Wrote:  UAB has a plan for an OCS. Nobody wants to play at Legion Field a nanosecond longer than we have to.

This rendering looks absolutely amazing!

(06-01-2015 08:54 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  

(05-30-2015 06:23 PM)Smaug Wrote:  UAB has a plan for an OCS. Nobody wants to play at Legion Field a nanosecond longer than we have to.

This rendering looks absolutely amazing!

I love State's. Admire it every time I'm in Montgomery.

(06-01-2015 08:50 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  Let's get the program back and build some facilities and grow. Then we can worry about a stadium.

I love you AB but we need to worry about it along with getting our program back. There are a lot of people that support this program that will not be content with just simply bringing it back and staying at Legion Field for the next ten years or more. William Bell has already said no new facilities will be built for the World Games and that Legion Field will be spruced up to serve as one of the sites for the game. So I don`t see a new MPF or new stadium being built if Legion Field is still in play. So that is another 7 years of playing in Legion Field.

If there is something in the works and someone knows something then please share. Otherwise, I just wish people will stop telling people what to worry about and not to worry about. I thought we could express our concerns without being told what we should be worried about.

Ijs.........