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ECU beats out VT for another quality WR.

http://247sports.com/Player/Tahj-Deans-76748

A few weeks ago we got a nice QB over Miami.

http://data.tallahassee.com/recruit/athl...-football/

Earlier this January the Pirates nabbed 3 other 3-star players. Coincidently, all 3 of which had offers from UC amongst others.

http://data.tallahassee.com/recruit/coll...-carolina/

It's nothing earth shattering but ECU has always been a program that has done more with less. However, now it seems as if we're transitioning from a team that could recruit mostly upper level 2* & lower level 3* talent into a program that's starting to consistently get mid to upper level 3* recruits. Now if we can just get a few 4* guys this year we'll really be on the right track.

I don't put too much stock into recruiting rankings but a few years ago we would rarely ever beat out above average ACC programs for recruits. In fact, we would usually lose out to below average BCS programs for recruits. I really think the increase in exposure and notoriety that the AAC provides us has substantially enhanced ECU's ability to recruit.
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AAC exposure helping ECU recruit well for the 2016 class?
What about Basketball? That's where we need the help currently.


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RE: AAC exposure helping ECU recruit well for the 2016 class?
I think that we all benefit from our membership in this conference.....from recruiting through bowl alignment and beyond.

There are a number of AAC detractors among our poster community, but the vast majority of us understand the positives, potential, and value membership in this conference brings.

I can feel some sympathy for some fan's disappointment in no longer being in a power conference, so I would expect a grumble from them on occasion, but for the balance of us; there's nothing but good news in being members of this conference.
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RE: AAC exposure helping ECU recruit well for the 2016 class?
Until that player has signed his letter of intent and is actually enrolled and playing on the team, you haven't won a thing. 07-coffee3
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RE: AAC exposure helping ECU recruit well for the 2016 class?
(05-06-2015 09:11 AM)USFRamenu Wrote:  Until that player has signed his letter of intent and is actually enrolled and playing on the team, you haven't won a thing. 07-coffee3

I get that but the point of the thread was that we really wouldn't get many recruits to even commit to us over average to above average BCS level programs in the 1st place. Also, while some players inevitably go back on their commitment, the vast majority do stick it out. Even though our overall recruiting ranking wasn't stellar for 2015, because it was an extremely small class, I believe that we had the 3rd best overall average ranking per recruit in the AAC, just behind USF & UCF. There certainly are palpable improvements in ECU's recruiting ability and I believe that it can be attributed not only to AAC affiliation but it's also simply due to the fact that Ruff is a coach that kids want to play for.
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RE: AAC exposure helping ECU recruit well for the 2016 class?
(05-06-2015 09:58 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  
(05-06-2015 09:11 AM)USFRamenu Wrote:  Until that player has signed his letter of intent and is actually enrolled and playing on the team, you haven't won a thing. 07-coffee3

I get that but the point of the thread was that we really wouldn't get many recruits to even commit to us over average to above average BCS level programs in the 1st place. Also, while some players inevitably go back on their commitment, the vast majority do stick it out. Even though our overall recruiting ranking wasn't stellar for 2015, because it was an extremely small class, I believe that we had the 3rd best overall average ranking per recruit in the AAC, just behind USF & UCF. There certainly are palpable improvements in ECU's recruiting ability and I believe that it can be attributed not only to AAC affiliation but it's also simply due to the fact that Ruff is a coach that kids want to play for.

You give ESPN far too much credit and not enough to your admin for pushing for a 4k+ stipends. 07-coffee3
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RE: AAC exposure helping ECU recruit well for the 2016 class?
(05-06-2015 10:01 AM)USFRamenu Wrote:  
(05-06-2015 09:58 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  
(05-06-2015 09:11 AM)USFRamenu Wrote:  Until that player has signed his letter of intent and is actually enrolled and playing on the team, you haven't won a thing. 07-coffee3

I get that but the point of the thread was that we really wouldn't get many recruits to even commit to us over average to above average BCS level programs in the 1st place. Also, while some players inevitably go back on their commitment, the vast majority do stick it out. Even though our overall recruiting ranking wasn't stellar for 2015, because it was an extremely small class, I believe that we had the 3rd best overall average ranking per recruit in the AAC, just behind USF & UCF. There certainly are palpable improvements in ECU's recruiting ability and I believe that it can be attributed not only to AAC affiliation but it's also simply due to the fact that Ruff is a coach that kids want to play for.

You give ESPN far too much credit and not enough to your admin for pushing for a 4k+ stipends. 07-coffee3

I think it is a combination of things. ECU has had tremendous stability with its coaching staff for the past 6 years( same head coach, same OC(until this year) and many of the most important assistants have been with us for 5 years. Coach Ruff is also tremendous ambassador for the University and many moms want their sons playing for him.

The tv coverage has been top notch. In fact the best tv coverage ECU has ever had. This means kids see us play on a legit network and its adds gravitas to the program.

Finally, we are winning and this goes a long way in getting kids to come to the program. We have the best players I have seen on an ECU team since I started following them over 20 years ago.
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RE: AAC exposure helping ECU recruit well for the 2016 class?
(05-06-2015 10:01 AM)USFRamenu Wrote:  You give ESPN far too much credit and not enough to your admin for pushing for a 4k+ stipends. 07-coffee3

Is that you, Deb?
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RE: AAC exposure helping ECU recruit well for the 2016 class?
(05-06-2015 12:02 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  ECU beats out VT for another quality WR.

http://247sports.com/Player/Tahj-Deans-76748

A few weeks ago we got a nice QB over Miami.

http://data.tallahassee.com/recruit/athl...-football/

Earlier this January the Pirates nabbed 3 other 3-star players. Coincidently, all 3 of which had offers from UC amongst others.

http://data.tallahassee.com/recruit/coll...-carolina/

It's nothing earth shattering but ECU has always been a program that has done more with less. However, now it seems as if we're transitioning from a team that could recruit mostly upper level 2* & lower level 3* talent into a program that's starting to consistently get mid to upper level 3* recruits. Now if we can just get a few 4* guys this year we'll really be on the right track.

I don't put too much stock into recruiting rankings but a few years ago we would rarely ever beat out above average ACC programs for recruits. In fact, we would usually lose out to below average BCS programs for recruits. I really think the increase in exposure and notoriety that the AAC provides us has substantially enhanced ECU's ability to recruit.


Not quite sure about 2 of the recruits that you listed. Dezmon Patmon and Mike Waters. I searched Rivals, 247sports, and ESPN and did not find anything about these players verbal committing to us. How accurate is this site you posted?

I hope Dre Massey keeps his commitment and comes to us next year. He is expect to graduate in December from Holmes.
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RE: AAC exposure helping ECU recruit well for the 2016 class?
(05-07-2015 08:46 AM)Chappy Wrote:  
(05-06-2015 10:01 AM)USFRamenu Wrote:  You give ESPN far too much credit and not enough to your admin for pushing for a 4k+ stipends. 07-coffee3

Is that you, Deb?

USFRamenu is exactly right. ECU needs to push that 4k stipend for all it is worth while it is still an advantage. NCSU is already pushing for ways to nix it. ECU's stipend is the highest in the state by 30-50%. Not to mention that 4k goes a helluva lot farther in Greenville than Raleigh. SELL IT Ruff and especially LEBO. The window is open, but who knows how long. Get all you can get while you can get it.
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RE: AAC exposure helping ECU recruit well for the 2016 class?
I think in state we are seeing the fruits of smashing UNC 2 years in a row. It's no coincidence both Herring and Deans were there for the 70 point explosion. I think the TV coverage is gonna help more in terms of out of state recruits and especially in basketball.
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(05-07-2015 10:39 AM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  
(05-07-2015 08:46 AM)Chappy Wrote:  
(05-06-2015 10:01 AM)USFRamenu Wrote:  You give ESPN far too much credit and not enough to your admin for pushing for a 4k+ stipends. 07-coffee3

Is that you, Deb?

USFRamenu is exactly right. ECU needs to push that 4k stipend for all it is worth while it is still an advantage. NCSU is already pushing for ways to nix it. ECU's stipend is the highest in the state by 30-50%. Not to mention that 4k goes a helluva lot farther in Greenville than Raleigh. SELL IT Ruff and especially LEBO. The window is open, but who knows how long. Get all you can get while you can get it.

If Lebo can't bring in 4* plays in this environment he needs to be bought out.


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(05-06-2015 12:02 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  ECU beats out VT for another quality WR.

http://247sports.com/Player/Tahj-Deans-76748

A few weeks ago we got a nice QB over Miami.

http://data.tallahassee.com/recruit/athl...-football/

Earlier this January the Pirates nabbed 3 other 3-star players. Coincidently, all 3 of which had offers from UC amongst others.

http://data.tallahassee.com/recruit/coll...-carolina/

It's nothing earth shattering but ECU has always been a program that has done more with less. However, now it seems as if we're transitioning from a team that could recruit mostly upper level 2* & lower level 3* talent into a program that's starting to consistently get mid to upper level 3* recruits. Now if we can just get a few 4* guys this year we'll really be on the right track.

I don't put too much stock into recruiting rankings but a few years ago we would rarely ever beat out above average ACC programs for recruits. In fact, we would usually lose out to below average BCS programs for recruits. I really think the increase in exposure and notoriety that the AAC provides us has substantially enhanced ECU's ability to recruit.

If you read our recruits comments about why they ultimately sign with ECU overwhelmingly the majority of them say it's because of Ruff. I'm sure the increased exposure doesn't hurt though to get their attention. For the in state kids hanging 55 and 70 on the Holes the past two years and beating the hell out of the Woofies always helps.
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(05-07-2015 12:07 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  
(05-07-2015 10:39 AM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  
(05-07-2015 08:46 AM)Chappy Wrote:  
(05-06-2015 10:01 AM)USFRamenu Wrote:  You give ESPN far too much credit and not enough to your admin for pushing for a 4k+ stipends. 07-coffee3

Is that you, Deb?

USFRamenu is exactly right. ECU needs to push that 4k stipend for all it is worth while it is still an advantage. NCSU is already pushing for ways to nix it. ECU's stipend is the highest in the state by 30-50%. Not to mention that 4k goes a helluva lot farther in Greenville than Raleigh. SELL IT Ruff and especially LEBO. The window is open, but who knows how long. Get all you can get while you can get it.

If Lebo can't bring in 4* plays in this environment he needs to be bought out.


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Isn't our most recent basketball commit, Deng Riak, a 4*? He chose ECU over offers from Florida, Oregon, Minnesota, & VT.

http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/deng-riak

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basket.../deng-riak
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(05-08-2015 07:22 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  
(05-07-2015 12:07 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  
(05-07-2015 10:39 AM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  
(05-07-2015 08:46 AM)Chappy Wrote:  
(05-06-2015 10:01 AM)USFRamenu Wrote:  You give ESPN far too much credit and not enough to your admin for pushing for a 4k+ stipends. 07-coffee3

Is that you, Deb?

USFRamenu is exactly right. ECU needs to push that 4k stipend for all it is worth while it is still an advantage. NCSU is already pushing for ways to nix it. ECU's stipend is the highest in the state by 30-50%. Not to mention that 4k goes a helluva lot farther in Greenville than Raleigh. SELL IT Ruff and especially LEBO. The window is open, but who knows how long. Get all you can get while you can get it.

If Lebo can't bring in 4* plays in this environment he needs to be bought out.


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Isn't our most recent basketball commit, Deng Riak, a 4*? He chose ECU over offers from Florida, Oregon, Minnesota, & VT.

http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/deng-riak

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basket.../deng-riak

I was not aware that he was a 4*. Thats impressive!
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Looks like our latest football commit might play basketball for us as well! He's got some nice dunking skills.

http://www.fayobserver.com/blogs/sports/...8a2e5.html

- Head coach Ruffin McNeill was a major factor in Deans' decision to choose ECU.
"Everything he says comes from the heart,'' Deans said. "He talked to me and my mother about 'the circle.' He said he wasn't going to bring anybody into the circle with negative thoughts. It's like a family there and that's what I really liked about him.''
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