(05-01-2015 07:17 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Well Everyone better get ready to stay put for a long long time.

That's been true for a while now (ACC's GOR was signed about 3 years ago, right?) but yeah, stuff like this just re-emphasizes that the status-quo is going to last awhile.

(05-02-2015 11:26 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(05-01-2015 07:17 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Well Everyone better get ready to stay put for a long long time.

That's been true for a while now (ACC's GOR was signed about 3 years ago, right?) but yeah, stuff like this just re-emphasizes that the status-quo is going to last awhile.

I wouldn't read too much into anything written these days. There are external forces at work that are coming from different angles.

For instance the PAC looking at altering their Network model. This could be a huge motivator for upheaval. If the Conference alters it's Network aligning the conference closer together and further limiting the games available to Fox/ESPN or attempting to greatly increase their asking price, well that may trigger movement.

Fox/ESPN could swiftly change the Big 12 into a western conference. I'm not saying they will but they could and that would provide them cheaper content and the Big 12 doesn't have a network to argue over. Many things can happen. Business makes for strange bedfellows.

(05-02-2015 01:04 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  If the [PAC] alters it's Network aligning the conference closer together and further limiting the games available to Fox/ESPN or attempting to greatly increase their asking price, well that may trigger movement.

Quote:Fox/ESPN could swiftly change the Big 12 into a western conference.

I don't understand either of these points. How would changes in the PAC network affect expansion? Why would the Big <XII become a "western conference"?

If the PAC changes their Network design and plays hardball over pricing of their content. Then Fox and ESPN could decide that a competitor for the western market is far more lucrative then having a centralized B1g 12 or an additional eastern conference which the Big 12 would be if they expanded eastward.

Right now the PAC has the west all to it's self as far as Major Conferences go. However, schools like San Diego St, Fresno St, Boise St, BYU and even UNLV with Texas, Oklahoma, Baylor, TCU and even Kansas St visiting regularly would challenge for viewership in the west. Is it far fetched, yes it is. Yet anything is possible.

(05-02-2015 02:46 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  schools like San Diego St, Fresno St, Boise St, BYU and even UNLV with Texas, Oklahoma, Baylor, TCU and even Kansas St visiting regularly would challenge for viewership in the west. Is it far fetched, yes it is. Yet anything is possible.

"Far fetched" is much too mild of a term to describe the idea of Texas being in the same league as Boise State and UNLV.
But anyway, if some sort of merger between Big <XII and the best of the Mountain is the leading candidate for near-term realignment, then I think that bolsters my original point that the status-quo is going to last a long time.

Texas wants to be east, not west

(05-02-2015 12:05 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(05-01-2015 04:16 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  I deregulation passes, I'm all for trying to put together something with the MWC

I'm totally against it, NBPirate... Their only program capable in helping increase the AAC TV revenue is boise.

Adding 5 additional mwc programs will lead them right back in creating another league down the road, IMO.

Nobody will be leaving if the nationwide super G5 conference is successful. If it is not successful, then we probably wont care if they leave.

Boise State is poison.

(05-02-2015 05:30 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(05-02-2015 02:46 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  schools like San Diego St, Fresno St, Boise St, BYU and even UNLV with Texas, Oklahoma, Baylor, TCU and even Kansas St visiting regularly would challenge for viewership in the west. Is it far fetched, yes it is. Yet anything is possible.

"Far fetched" is much too mild of a term to describe the idea of Texas being in the same league as Boise State and UNLV.
But anyway, if some sort of merger between Big <XII and the best of the Mountain is the leading candidate for near-term realignment, then I think that bolsters my original point that the status-quo is going to last a long time.

Native Georgian, because we've shared message boards for 6 or 7+ years you will understand that I say this with a bit of humor but also with a hint of underlying foundation of truth........is anything in realignment far-fetched after West Virginia joined the B12? :)

(05-02-2015 05:30 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(05-02-2015 02:46 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  schools like San Diego St, Fresno St, Boise St, BYU and even UNLV with Texas, Oklahoma, Baylor, TCU and even Kansas St visiting regularly would challenge for viewership in the west. Is it far fetched, yes it is. Yet anything is possible.

"Far fetched" is much too mild of a term to describe the idea of Texas being in the same league as Boise State and UNLV.
But anyway, if some sort of merger between Big <XII and the best of the Mountain is the leading candidate for near-term realignment, then I think that bolsters my original point that the status-quo is going to last a long time.

ESPN has the Pac12 by the nuts. They essentially OWN the biggest bargaining chip in college football... the University of Texas.

If the PAC gets too far out of line, ESPN just has to say "Ok, we want to be your long term partner, so if you will sign "this deal" with us, then well help facilitate the move of Texas, Tech, Ok and Ok State to the new Pac16.... just like we did with the ACC when we gutted the Big East".

Then they make them sign a contract that makes them even more money but gives ESPN the rights till 2030.

Thats when the AAC gets raided and many pieces get moved to the new Big 12.... and we sign a long term deal.

I truly believe the reason not all of the moves we expected went down is because ESPN is saving power chips to be played later. Its all about executing their moves at the right time so that they can extend contracts.

If they wait till about 2019/2020 to make their next move, then they can lock down the PAC 16 and the new Big 12 to deals that go well into the 2030 or so range. This denys their main competitors content for over a 25 year period.

Its honestly horrific and yet superbly brilliant.

(05-02-2015 08:08 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  All you need it to read in those tweets was ESPN was involved. There lies your answer

True --- if money is a factor in realignment decisions - and we all think so -- than TV money has a big voice in these decisions.