(04-23-2015 11:39 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:37 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:30 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 08:30 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(04-22-2015 03:07 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  Text based communication will always lend itself to misinterpretation. South being Top Tier going forward is a tough sell. The jaguars haven't been Top Tier yet and next year doesn't exactly inspire enough confidence to unequivocally say South will be Top Tier going forward. Being bowl eligible twice does strengthen the argument, but still doesn't make it a foregone conclusion.

I disagree about Joey Jones. I think he's a very good recruiter, but only so-so as a coach. He doesn't have much of a coaching history, so the jury's out on whether or not he can be that guy. With coaches from Arkansas State, Louisiana, GS and APP whose coaching have both history and Top Tier success at their current school, it would be hard for a Joey Jones lead South, or even a Troy to get in there consistently. The next big leap for South Alabama football will likely be when Joey Jones leaves and USA dumps a lot more money into coaching salaries.

A lot of wishful thinking in that post. Joey has managed USA transition from nothing to FBS masterfully and the moves he made this offseason show he is dedicated to winning.

He also appears to be looking to get out of Mobile as quickly as possible. He interviews for just about every job that comes open.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

This is true. Including Troy

He and Clark both wanted the job at Troy. Neither made the final cut.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

I don't know about Clark, but that's not true in regards to Joey Jones.

(04-23-2015 11:43 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:39 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:37 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:30 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 08:30 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  A lot of wishful thinking in that post. Joey has managed USA transition from nothing to FBS masterfully and the moves he made this offseason show he is dedicated to winning.

He also appears to be looking to get out of Mobile as quickly as possible. He interviews for just about every job that comes open.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

This is true. Including Troy

He and Clark both wanted the job at Troy. Neither made the final cut.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

We made the right hire IMO. Happy about it.

Couldn't agree more. Only time will tell though.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

(04-23-2015 11:45 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:30 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 08:30 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(04-22-2015 03:07 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(04-22-2015 02:33 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  There you go. That is exactly what I meant. At least a couple of posters could figure it out.

Text based communication will always lend itself to misinterpretation. South being Top Tier going forward is a tough sell. The jaguars haven't been Top Tier yet and next year doesn't exactly inspire enough confidence to unequivocally say South will be Top Tier going forward. Being bowl eligible twice does strengthen the argument, but still doesn't make it a foregone conclusion.

I disagree about Joey Jones. I think he's a very good recruiter, but only so-so as a coach. He doesn't have much of a coaching history, so the jury's out on whether or not he can be that guy. With coaches from Arkansas State, Louisiana, GS and APP whose coaching have both history and Top Tier success at their current school, it would be hard for a Joey Jones lead South, or even a Troy to get in there consistently. The next big leap for South Alabama football will likely be when Joey Jones leaves and USA dumps a lot more money into coaching salaries.

A lot of wishful thinking in that post. Joey has managed USA transition from nothing to FBS masterfully and the moves he made this offseason show he is dedicated to winning.

He also appears to be looking to get out of Mobile as quickly as possible. He interviews for just about every job that comes open.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

He doesn't want out of Mobile. Interviewing and actually intending to leave are not necessarily connected.

Yea. Ok then.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

(04-23-2015 11:39 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:37 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:30 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 08:30 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(04-22-2015 03:07 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  Text based communication will always lend itself to misinterpretation. South being Top Tier going forward is a tough sell. The jaguars haven't been Top Tier yet and next year doesn't exactly inspire enough confidence to unequivocally say South will be Top Tier going forward. Being bowl eligible twice does strengthen the argument, but still doesn't make it a foregone conclusion.

I disagree about Joey Jones. I think he's a very good recruiter, but only so-so as a coach. He doesn't have much of a coaching history, so the jury's out on whether or not he can be that guy. With coaches from Arkansas State, Louisiana, GS and APP whose coaching have both history and Top Tier success at their current school, it would be hard for a Joey Jones lead South, or even a Troy to get in there consistently. The next big leap for South Alabama football will likely be when Joey Jones leaves and USA dumps a lot more money into coaching salaries.

A lot of wishful thinking in that post. Joey has managed USA transition from nothing to FBS masterfully and the moves he made this offseason show he is dedicated to winning.

He also appears to be looking to get out of Mobile as quickly as possible. He interviews for just about every job that comes open.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

This is true. Including Troy

He and Clark both wanted the job at Troy. Neither made the final cut.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

lol

(04-23-2015 11:47 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:39 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:37 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:30 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 08:30 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  A lot of wishful thinking in that post. Joey has managed USA transition from nothing to FBS masterfully and the moves he made this offseason show he is dedicated to winning.

He also appears to be looking to get out of Mobile as quickly as possible. He interviews for just about every job that comes open.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

This is true. Including Troy

He and Clark both wanted the job at Troy. Neither made the final cut.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

I don't know about Clark, but that's not true in regards to Joey Jones.

Really? Any proof? He did in fact interview and he wasn't even seriously considered for the job.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

(04-23-2015 11:49 AM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:39 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:37 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:30 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 08:30 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  A lot of wishful thinking in that post. Joey has managed USA transition from nothing to FBS masterfully and the moves he made this offseason show he is dedicated to winning.

He also appears to be looking to get out of Mobile as quickly as possible. He interviews for just about every job that comes open.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

This is true. Including Troy

He and Clark both wanted the job at Troy. Neither made the final cut.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

lol

Yea I'd be a little upset myself if my coach was looking to leave and no one wanted him.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

(04-23-2015 11:50 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:47 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:39 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:37 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:30 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  He also appears to be looking to get out of Mobile as quickly as possible. He interviews for just about every job that comes open.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

This is true. Including Troy

He and Clark both wanted the job at Troy. Neither made the final cut.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

I don't know about Clark, but that's not true in regards to Joey Jones.

Really? Any proof? He did in fact interview and he wasn't even seriously considered for the job.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

I can ask the same of you: Any proof that he had any intention of going to Troy?

(04-23-2015 11:51 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:49 AM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:39 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:37 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:30 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  He also appears to be looking to get out of Mobile as quickly as possible. He interviews for just about every job that comes open.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

This is true. Including Troy

He and Clark both wanted the job at Troy. Neither made the final cut.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

lol

Yea I'd be a little upset myself if my coach was looking to leave and no one wanted him.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

This is a silly argument. Your sources at Troy will tell you one thing and ours at USA will tell us another. You'll believe yours and we'll believe ours.

(04-23-2015 11:53 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:50 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:47 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:39 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:37 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  This is true. Including Troy

He and Clark both wanted the job at Troy. Neither made the final cut.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

I don't know about Clark, but that's not true in regards to Joey Jones.

Really? Any proof? He did in fact interview and he wasn't even seriously considered for the job.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

I can ask the same of you: Any proof that he had any intention of going to Troy?

Why interview for every opening out there if you aren't looking to leave?

Also all documentation of all people that apply/interview are destroyed once they are eliminated from the process.

The dragging of the feet for an campus stadium for you guys may just be keeping your program from reaching its full potential at this point.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

There's one thing I will say... Hemi is closer to the Troy program than anyone.. If he says it happened..... It happened.

(04-23-2015 11:53 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  I can ask the same of you: Any proof that he had any intention of going to Troy?

I can confirm that he did in fact interview for the job. My information comes from extremely high on the food chain. That means nothing to you, and I don't blame you, but I won't out my source. I prefer to keep my contacts off of message boards.

I agree that we made a much better hire than if we had hired Joey Jones. Jones had one year of head coaching experience at the college level before starting USA football. He went 3-7 at Birmingham Southern before arriving in Mobile. To be fair, Birmingham Southern did not field a team the year before Jones got there. He doesn't have the resumes most in the SBC have, which is why Neal Brown is a much better choice, and also why it's no guarantee that Joey Jones is all the sudden going to rocket into Top Tier SBC.

I've asked myself that same question. Seems like something behind the scenes isn't quite right for Joey Jones and or South Alabama. That's just my opinion though.


I'm not a Troy fan because of wins and losses.

(04-23-2015 12:05 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:53 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  I can ask the same of you: Any proof that he had any intention of going to Troy?

I can confirm that he did in fact interview for the job. My information comes from extremely high on the food chain. That's means nothing to you, and I don't blame you, but I won't out my source. I prefer to keep my contacts off of message boards.

I agree that we made a much better hire than if we had hired Joey Jones. Jones had one year of head coaching experience at the college level before starting USA football. He went 3-7 at Birmingham Southern before arriving in Mobile. To be fair, Birmingham Southern did not field a team the year before Jones got there. He doesn't have the resumes most in the SBC have, which is why Neal Brown is a much better choice, and also why it's no guarantee that Joey Jones is all the sudden going to rocket into Top Tier SBC.

I agree with your stance in the bolded sentence and feel the same way about mine.
I also don't blame you for feeling good about Brown. New energy in a program always makes it exciting. USA got a bit of the same with the return of Bryant Vincent.