Damn I hope we rotate the bowls in litte rock and Austin...

(04-01-2015 08:14 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  Damn I hope we rotate the bowls in litte rock and Austin...

I'm sure you meant LR, Austin, and New Orleans should rotate . . .

Which bowl would be worse Little Rock or Montgomery? Lol

(04-01-2015 09:25 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Which bowl would be worse Little Rock or Montgomery? Lol

I don't see how Little Rock could not be better than Shreveport, which is better than Montgomery. AAC opponent much preferred to MAC. Comparing LR to Montgomery is just silly.

The bowl game in Orlando is that the Cure bowl and if so I thought it was already a go or is this another bowl in orlandol

(04-01-2015 09:32 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(04-01-2015 09:25 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Which bowl would be worse Little Rock or Montgomery? Lol

I don't see how Little Rock could not be better than Shreveport, which is better than Montgomery. AAC opponent much preferred to MAC. Comparing LR to Montgomery is just silly.

Shreveport has a P5 opponent and 7 casinos. AAC can't fill 10 bowls and the first two they don't fill will be the SBC bowls so I expect MAC in LR.

(04-01-2015 09:32 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(04-01-2015 09:25 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Which bowl would be worse Little Rock or Montgomery? Lol

I don't see how Little Rock could not be better than Shreveport, which is better than Montgomery. AAC opponent much preferred to MAC. Comparing LR to Montgomery is just silly.

Mmm, both cities are about the same size.... But yes the opponent would be better most likely

(04-01-2015 09:40 PM)CAJUNCOUNTRY Wrote:  The bowl game in Orlando is that the Cure bowl and if so I thought it was already a go or is this another bowl in orlandol

It's a go, but they still have to apply for certification... They still havnt

(04-01-2015 09:45 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(04-01-2015 09:32 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(04-01-2015 09:25 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Which bowl would be worse Little Rock or Montgomery? Lol

I don't see how Little Rock could not be better than Shreveport, which is better than Montgomery. AAC opponent much preferred to MAC. Comparing LR to Montgomery is just silly.

Mmm, both cities are about the same size.... But yes the opponent would be better most likely

I've learned over the years that most people outside of the "Mid-South" region is totally clueless of Little Rock. Little Rock, Montgomery, Shreveport, and Jackson, MS all have an almost identical core city population, but the LR Metro is fractured with seven incorporated cities in Pulaski County alone(including Little Rock and the totally separate city of North Little Rock, AR). The population of Metro Little Rock as of the 2013 estimate was 902,422, and Montgomery's Metro was only 374,536. If you only look at the populations of the proper cities, then you could say that Tulsa is bigger than Atlanta...

300k and 900k for a metro isn't a massive difference. Just more people. Doesn't neccesserly mean there's more to do.

Birmingham has about 1.2 million, but offers not much more than Montgomery does. Just a little more Shopping and bars.

Btw I'm not defending Montgomery... It's a crappy town.

(04-01-2015 09:42 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(04-01-2015 09:32 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(04-01-2015 09:25 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Which bowl would be worse Little Rock or Montgomery? Lol

I don't see how Little Rock could not be better than Shreveport, which is better than Montgomery. AAC opponent much preferred to MAC. Comparing LR to Montgomery is just silly.

Shreveport has a P5 opponent and 7 casinos. AAC can't fill 10 bowls and the first two they don't fill will be the SBC bowls so I expect MAC in LR.

Not if a Sun Belt school plays there it won't. Are you unfamiliar with the bowl caste system?

(04-01-2015 04:54 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(04-01-2015 04:25 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Wonder if the NCAA will approve all three? I know it has been apply and approve but 8 more teams really seems stretching it.

McMurphy stated they were likely to all get approved. All they need for approval is a TV partner and conference tie ins.

Of course they will at the detriment of the schools/conferences.

TV exec win on every bowl.

Bowl execs win on every bowl.

The participating teams make up any shortfall on tickets.

I do think the SBC needs one more bowl tie in (with 11 teams we will have 5 that are bowl eligible), but getting the AAC 9 tie ins is getting ridiculous.

I have lived in Shreveport and I live in the LR area. I've driven through Montgomery and have no informed opinion other than I didn't feel any urge to stop from what I saw.

Shreveport has a reputation for being a dump. Part of that is because when you enter from the north you go through a very rundown area. Part of it is because there is a dead zone around the casinos. Bars and restaurants aren't going to attract customers when you can go a block or two to the casino and get the same or better at a cheaper price at the casino so there is a lot of vacant commercial and less than optimal commercial buildings around the casinos. Better parts of the city are a few miles away.

As to Little Rock.
I've been to Mobile seven times in the last five years, four bowl trips, three work related. Mobile has a very good experience as you can walk to a lot of places from the Sun Belt team hotel and neighboring hotels.

In Little Rock in that same span of space from the team hotel to Wintzells in Mobile, in Little Rock you have many times more restaurants and bars. You have the presidential library (like him or hate him its a good museum), HQ of Heifer International with kid friendly exhibits about their work around the world. The Old State House, another very good museum. The Arkansas Arts Center which is middling art gallery overall but does have one of the nation's better pen and ink collections. The Nature Center run by the Game and Fish Commission with good exhibits on wildlife and a boardwalk that takes you to the wetlands behind the center and the river. Then there is the Museum of Discovery, their programs director is the bearded dude who is on Jimmy Fallon from time to time doing cool science stuff.

A very short drive away you have Rock Town Distillery their booze wins many awards and USA Today says it is one the nation's best to visit.

A trolley ride away you have a submarine you can tour and the Argenta District with more bars and restaurants as well as a small theater run by a former SNL writer where they produce original comedies. Those who do the tailgate in an RV thing can stay at the city owned RV park next to the sub and wake up each morning with Little Rock across the river and the run rising over the bridges and be a short walk or trolley ride from the events in the Rivermarket.

Anyone coming with an open mind and the intent to have a good time will do so.

Little Rock's biggest issue is not things to do, it's whether locals will embrace the bowl. (City Wide issue of residents only supporting what is convenient.) If the city embraces the bowl, it will be right up there with Mobile in terms of popularity.

I'm pretty sure Little Rock is taking some of their ideas from Mobile truthfully.

(04-02-2015 09:14 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Little Rock's biggest issue is not things to do, it's whether locals will embrace the bowl. (City Wide issue of residents only supporting what is convenient.) If the city embraces the bowl, it will be right up there with Mobile in terms of popularity.

I'm pretty sure Little Rock is taking some of their ideas from Mobile truthfully.

Little Rock starts off with better infrastructure for the game than Mobile had starting off. But I'm skeptical of the city embracing it as well and no way LR will embrace it as well the first several years, Mobile has built too good of a volunteer and supporter structure to catch without quite a few years of work.

Mobile definitely knows how to support their bowls. I hope we can achieve that level in the years to come.

(04-02-2015 09:26 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-02-2015 09:14 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Little Rock's biggest issue is not things to do, it's whether locals will embrace the bowl. (City Wide issue of residents only supporting what is convenient.) If the city embraces the bowl, it will be right up there with Mobile in terms of popularity.

I'm pretty sure Little Rock is taking some of their ideas from Mobile truthfully.

Little Rock starts off with better infrastructure for the game than Mobile had starting off. But I'm skeptical of the city embracing it as well and no way LR will embrace it as well the first several years, Mobile has built too good of a volunteer and supporter structure to catch without quite a few years of work.

Yeah, if it is a go for 2015 that is a short order for drumming up support. I hope all the ASU and UALR fans in central AR volunteer and promote it regardless of the participants. The parade in Mobile is so integral and gets everyone in the same area for events. I am not sure what we would do in LR to mirror that experience. A Christmas parade would probably be doable but I am not sure it has the same effect.

(04-02-2015 09:43 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  

(04-02-2015 09:26 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-02-2015 09:14 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Little Rock's biggest issue is not things to do, it's whether locals will embrace the bowl. (City Wide issue of residents only supporting what is convenient.) If the city embraces the bowl, it will be right up there with Mobile in terms of popularity.

I'm pretty sure Little Rock is taking some of their ideas from Mobile truthfully.

Little Rock starts off with better infrastructure for the game than Mobile had starting off. But I'm skeptical of the city embracing it as well and no way LR will embrace it as well the first several years, Mobile has built too good of a volunteer and supporter structure to catch without quite a few years of work.

Yeah, if it is a go for 2015 that is a short order for drumming up support. I hope all the ASU and UALR fans in central AR volunteer and promote it regardless of the participants. The parade in Mobile is so integral and gets everyone in the same area for events. I am not sure what we would do in LR to mirror that experience. A Christmas parade would probably be doable but I am not sure it has the same effect.

Montgomery merged their Christmas Parade and into a Bowl and Christmas parade.

If you want a parade, reverse the route of the Saint Patrick's Day Parade, start it in Argenta and end in the Rivermarket. Both cities do their parade too early to easily convince either to move it though.

(04-02-2015 11:18 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-02-2015 09:43 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  

(04-02-2015 09:26 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-02-2015 09:14 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Little Rock's biggest issue is not things to do, it's whether locals will embrace the bowl. (City Wide issue of residents only supporting what is convenient.) If the city embraces the bowl, it will be right up there with Mobile in terms of popularity.

I'm pretty sure Little Rock is taking some of their ideas from Mobile truthfully.

Little Rock starts off with better infrastructure for the game than Mobile had starting off. But I'm skeptical of the city embracing it as well and no way LR will embrace it as well the first several years, Mobile has built too good of a volunteer and supporter structure to catch without quite a few years of work.

Yeah, if it is a go for 2015 that is a short order for drumming up support. I hope all the ASU and UALR fans in central AR volunteer and promote it regardless of the participants. The parade in Mobile is so integral and gets everyone in the same area for events. I am not sure what we would do in LR to mirror that experience. A Christmas parade would probably be doable but I am not sure it has the same effect.

Montgomery merged their Christmas Parade and into a Bowl and Christmas parade.

If you want a parade, reverse the route of the Saint Patrick's Day Parade, start it in Argenta and end in the Rivermarket. Both cities do their parade too early to easily convince either to move it though.

I like the idea of reversing the route. End with something in the Amphitheater with the bridge lights in the background. I think LR would get behind a Christmas parade.

Get the Jennings Osborne folks to take part like they do with Disney.