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RE: SBC Football Stadiums seating capacity and Record Crowds
(04-06-2015 04:35 PM)runamuck Wrote: (04-06-2015 02:15 PM)theothermav Wrote: (04-06-2015 11:58 AM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote: (04-06-2015 07:44 AM)runamuck Wrote: (04-05-2015 02:03 PM)theothermav Wrote: Sometimes it makes more financial sense to build a new stadium in a location that's highly visible to the public than keep patching up a 35-year-old facility which will need major structural overhaul and engineering design revisions in decades to come. The Mav Stadium--like the baseball and softball fields--is somewhat isolated on the west campus with few apartments and no dorms nearby. The administration has practically ignored that side of the campus for the last 20 years. My thinking is that students, alumni and the Arlington community need to be constantly reminded that UTA has a football team (hypothetically). The stadium needs to standout and be in everyone's conscience instead of receding into the background. Athletic facilities are all over the place and lack the centralized proximity that most universities have. What failed in 1985 will repeat itself if the administration follows the same strategy as it did then. I would think collaborating with the city to build a hybrid football/soccer stadium and luring FC Dallas from dull Frisco to play in Arlington might be a possibility. Just my thoughts.
I dont agree. the football stadium is basically at the end of greek row. that area has not been ignored. the school built a glass blowing studio there a few years ago and the football stadium is the location of a major shuttle pick up and parking area. they tore down the old maverick village where the football players lived and as I recall, there are putting greens and other golf related practice areas there. the school operates a large greenhouse and landscaping facility there. the stadium was well built and I don see any reason it cant be updated and enlarged other than some of the parking area has been repurposed over the years.
Here's why I say that it is isolated.
How many students take blowing glass? Of those, how many are likely to go to a football game? Same thing with greens, greenhouse, landscaping, etc.
How many students use the 689-space parking lot as a park and ride?
I got my masters in city planning and urban design from this very University and it is in that vein where I see the problem. You have to be in that very area to see the stadium. There are some houses on Greek Row that can't even see it. There are no major academic buildings like the Fine Arts Building, University Hall, Wolff Hall, etc.
The majority of students spend there time east of Nedderman Dr and the vast majority are certainly east of Summitt. The stadium is non-existent to them. By putting on the south 40 lot on Cooper, just about everyone sees it.
I was hoping the U would build more apartments like they did with Arbor Oaks, Timber Brook or Meadow Run, but even those are just 450 units.
The same applies to the baseball and softball fields too.
For the record, I'm not advocating building a new stadium, but I do recognize a deficiency in the location of the older one.
I envy universities with well-designed campuses and a centralized athletic facilities which allow on-campus residents (students without cars) to easily migrate to any game, any time, very quickly.
a new stadium on the south 40 would be cool but I dont see the university coming up with the money for that and 2 new womens sports and the funds for the restart of football. I could see them adding a section on each end of the current stadium and then redoing the east side seating. football games are only 4 or 5 during the fall and I dont think being a few blocks away is a big deal. when we had football, the band would march from the music bldg. down greek row to the stadium picking up fans along the way and that was pretty cool. there may not be a large number of students living in the frat houses but that area became party central on game days. with a track team that every now and then is ranked, it seems that a track specific facility would also be on the list and if they took up the track from maverick stadium they could add several rows of seats.
even tho the football stadium seems to be on the fringe, it is not as remote as the baseball stadium at ut-austin..across I-35 or the baseball and basketball venues at a-m.
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RE: SBC Football Stadiums seating capacity and Record Crowds
(04-07-2015 05:16 PM)runamuck Wrote: (04-06-2015 04:35 PM)runamuck Wrote: (04-06-2015 02:15 PM)theothermav Wrote: (04-06-2015 11:58 AM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote: (04-06-2015 07:44 AM)runamuck Wrote: I dont agree. the football stadium is basically at the end of greek row. that area has not been ignored. the school built a glass blowing studio there a few years ago and the football stadium is the location of a major shuttle pick up and parking area. they tore down the old maverick village where the football players lived and as I recall, there are putting greens and other golf related practice areas there. the school operates a large greenhouse and landscaping facility there. the stadium was well built and I don see any reason it cant be updated and enlarged other than some of the parking area has been repurposed over the years.
Here's why I say that it is isolated.
How many students take blowing glass? Of those, how many are likely to go to a football game? Same thing with greens, greenhouse, landscaping, etc.
How many students use the 689-space parking lot as a park and ride?
I got my masters in city planning and urban design from this very University and it is in that vein where I see the problem. You have to be in that very area to see the stadium. There are some houses on Greek Row that can't even see it. There are no major academic buildings like the Fine Arts Building, University Hall, Wolff Hall, etc.
The majority of students spend there time east of Nedderman Dr and the vast majority are certainly east of Summitt. The stadium is non-existent to them. By putting on the south 40 lot on Cooper, just about everyone sees it.
I was hoping the U would build more apartments like they did with Arbor Oaks, Timber Brook or Meadow Run, but even those are just 450 units.
The same applies to the baseball and softball fields too.
For the record, I'm not advocating building a new stadium, but I do recognize a deficiency in the location of the older one.
I envy universities with well-designed campuses and a centralized athletic facilities which allow on-campus residents (students without cars) to easily migrate to any game, any time, very quickly.
a new stadium on the south 40 would be cool but I dont see the university coming up with the money for that and 2 new womens sports and the funds for the restart of football. I could see them adding a section on each end of the current stadium and then redoing the east side seating. football games are only 4 or 5 during the fall and I dont think being a few blocks away is a big deal. when we had football, the band would march from the music bldg. down greek row to the stadium picking up fans along the way and that was pretty cool. there may not be a large number of students living in the frat houses but that area became party central on game days. with a track team that every now and then is ranked, it seems that a track specific facility would also be on the list and if they took up the track from maverick stadium they could add several rows of seats.
even tho the football stadium seems to be on the fringe, it is not as remote as the baseball stadium at ut-austin..across I-35 or the baseball and basketball venues at a-m.
A&M has a pretty sophisticated shuttle bus system that makes travel on and off campus a lot easier than in the "old army" days. Also, Reed Arena and Olsen Field are right across from the Recreation Center so students have a reason to be there. Near Kyle Field, there is a pedestrian walkway under the railroad tracks which parallel Welborn Rd that helps to connect the two campus divisions.
It would really be bad if campus was the same as when I attended. There was nothing but veterinary buildings on the Reed Arena/Olsen Field side all the way to the Brazos River back then, but basketball was at G. Rollie White a.k.a the "Holler House" and baseball was in a rickety wooden stadium on the main campus side of the railroad so there was little reason to go that way unless one needed to. The main thing a baseball fan had to worry about back then was picking up splinters...convenient access, but not close to being as nice as the current facilities.
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RE: SBC Football Stadiums seating capacity and Record Crowds
(04-07-2015 07:37 PM)LUSportsFan Wrote: (04-07-2015 05:16 PM)runamuck Wrote: (04-06-2015 04:35 PM)runamuck Wrote: (04-06-2015 02:15 PM)theothermav Wrote: (04-06-2015 11:58 AM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote: Here's why I say that it is isolated.
How many students take blowing glass? Of those, how many are likely to go to a football game? Same thing with greens, greenhouse, landscaping, etc.
How many students use the 689-space parking lot as a park and ride?
I got my masters in city planning and urban design from this very University and it is in that vein where I see the problem. You have to be in that very area to see the stadium. There are some houses on Greek Row that can't even see it. There are no major academic buildings like the Fine Arts Building, University Hall, Wolff Hall, etc.
The majority of students spend there time east of Nedderman Dr and the vast majority are certainly east of Summitt. The stadium is non-existent to them. By putting on the south 40 lot on Cooper, just about everyone sees it.
I was hoping the U would build more apartments like they did with Arbor Oaks, Timber Brook or Meadow Run, but even those are just 450 units.
The same applies to the baseball and softball fields too.
For the record, I'm not advocating building a new stadium, but I do recognize a deficiency in the location of the older one.
I envy universities with well-designed campuses and a centralized athletic facilities which allow on-campus residents (students without cars) to easily migrate to any game, any time, very quickly.
a new stadium on the south 40 would be cool but I dont see the university coming up with the money for that and 2 new womens sports and the funds for the restart of football. I could see them adding a section on each end of the current stadium and then redoing the east side seating. football games are only 4 or 5 during the fall and I dont think being a few blocks away is a big deal. when we had football, the band would march from the music bldg. down greek row to the stadium picking up fans along the way and that was pretty cool. there may not be a large number of students living in the frat houses but that area became party central on game days. with a track team that every now and then is ranked, it seems that a track specific facility would also be on the list and if they took up the track from maverick stadium they could add several rows of seats.
even tho the football stadium seems to be on the fringe, it is not as remote as the baseball stadium at ut-austin..across I-35 or the baseball and basketball venues at a-m.
A&M has a pretty sophisticated shuttle bus system that makes travel on and off campus a lot easier than in the "old army" days. Also, Reed Arena and Olsen Field are right across from the Recreation Center so students have a reason to be there. Near Kyle Field, there is a pedestrian walkway under the railroad tracks which parallel Welborn Rd that helps to connect the two campus divisions.
It would really be bad if campus was the same as when I attended. There was nothing but veterinary buildings on the Reed Arena/Olsen Field side all the way to the Brazos River back then, but basketball was at G. Rollie White a.k.a the "Holler House" and baseball was in a rickety wooden stadium on the main campus side of the railroad so there was little reason to go that way unless one needed to. The main thing a baseball fan had to worry about back then was picking up splinters...convenient access, but not close to being as nice as the current facilities.
uta has shuttle system too. at a-m still a lot of vet stuff on that side of campus, but now also a newer multi-million baseball stadium. doubt if many thousands hang out at the rec center tho. I have been there several times. it is pretty nice.
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