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RE: Georgia State vs Baylor NCAA Tournament thread 1:45pm ET TBS
(03-20-2015 01:10 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  
(03-20-2015 09:12 AM)epiccajun Wrote:  
(03-20-2015 09:09 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  and yet, not 1 more person will care any more about the sun belt, or think that the sun belt is any better of a conference. my comments are about perception of our league, which means just as much as winning money, which I am glad they are doing for us. Until the sun belt is perceived as a better league, we still will not be able to demand more tv games nor will we garner any national attention during the regular season.

Ga State has done its job. Now the rest of the belt needs to step up to really make a difference.

So you think possible additional marketing funds, or distributions for buying P5 games, or additional funding for helping teams get possible bowl bids, does not help the perception of the conference?

You guys are a hoot! Just having EpicCajun say something positive about the conference is enough for me to post such annoying video and as for Saint333333 just the usual obsessive compulsive looking for an opportunity to say something negative about GS. "They will never get it". Get what?


Since you seem like a reasonable poster, Olyeller, let me get your opinion on one thing about the SBC.

Since we brought up revenue and revenue sharing in this post ... How do think most Ga Southern fans and posters here feel about the fact that Krazy Karl uses Conference football revenue generated by the conference and bowl teams, and distributes that revenue as part of the conference revenue sharing agreement to non-football playing members of the SBC like UTA and UALR.
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RE: Georgia State vs Baylor NCAA Tournament thread 1:45pm ET TBS
(03-20-2015 01:15 PM)epiccajun Wrote:  
(03-20-2015 01:10 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  
(03-20-2015 09:12 AM)epiccajun Wrote:  
(03-20-2015 09:09 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  and yet, not 1 more person will care any more about the sun belt, or think that the sun belt is any better of a conference. my comments are about perception of our league, which means just as much as winning money, which I am glad they are doing for us. Until the sun belt is perceived as a better league, we still will not be able to demand more tv games nor will we garner any national attention during the regular season.

Ga State has done its job. Now the rest of the belt needs to step up to really make a difference.

So you think possible additional marketing funds, or distributions for buying P5 games, or additional funding for helping teams get possible bowl bids, does not help the perception of the conference?

You guys are a hoot! Just having EpicCajun say something positive about the conference is enough for me to post such annoying video and as for Saint333333 just the usual obsessive compulsive looking for an opportunity to say something negative about GS. "They will never get it". Get what?


Since you seem like a reasonable poster, Olyeller, let me get your opinion on one thing about the SBC.

Since we brought up revenue and revenue sharing in this post ... How do think most Ga Southern fans and posters here feel about the fact that Krazy Karl uses Conference football revenue generated by the conference and bowl teams, and distributes that revenue as part of the conference revenue sharing agreement to non-football playing members of the SBC like UTA and UALR.

I'm not in the business of defending folks. Just from the lack of support on this board alone I'd say he needs to go but if I had to guess he's using the money as leverage particularly when the members of the conference you love so much have little opportunity to change their circumstance.
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RE: Georgia State vs Baylor NCAA Tournament thread 1:45pm ET TBS
(03-20-2015 01:20 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  
(03-20-2015 01:15 PM)epiccajun Wrote:  
(03-20-2015 01:10 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  
(03-20-2015 09:12 AM)epiccajun Wrote:  
(03-20-2015 09:09 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  and yet, not 1 more person will care any more about the sun belt, or think that the sun belt is any better of a conference. my comments are about perception of our league, which means just as much as winning money, which I am glad they are doing for us. Until the sun belt is perceived as a better league, we still will not be able to demand more tv games nor will we garner any national attention during the regular season.

Ga State has done its job. Now the rest of the belt needs to step up to really make a difference.

So you think possible additional marketing funds, or distributions for buying P5 games, or additional funding for helping teams get possible bowl bids, does not help the perception of the conference?

You guys are a hoot! Just having EpicCajun say something positive about the conference is enough for me to post such annoying video and as for Saint333333 just the usual obsessive compulsive looking for an opportunity to say something negative about GS. "They will never get it". Get what?


Since you seem like a reasonable poster, Olyeller, let me get your opinion on one thing about the SBC.

Since we brought up revenue and revenue sharing in this post ... How do think most Ga Southern fans and posters here feel about the fact that Krazy Karl uses Conference football revenue generated by the conference and bowl teams, and distributes that revenue as part of the conference revenue sharing agreement to non-football playing members of the SBC like UTA and UALR.

I'm not in the business of defending folks. Just from the lack of support on this board alone I'd say he needs to go but if I had to guess he's using the money as leverage particularly when the members of the conference you love so much have little opportunity to change their circumstance.

And that's the real issue I have with the conference, not so much the member institutions (well a couple or 3 could leave and I d be happy), but the terrible, irrational, illogical leadership from the conference and lack of cohesion between the member presidents. It's like a bunch of arguing high school girls run this conference.
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RE: Georgia State vs Baylor NCAA Tournament thread 1:45pm ET TBS
(03-20-2015 01:29 PM)epiccajun Wrote:  
(03-20-2015 01:20 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  
(03-20-2015 01:15 PM)epiccajun Wrote:  
(03-20-2015 01:10 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  
(03-20-2015 09:12 AM)epiccajun Wrote:  So you think possible additional marketing funds, or distributions for buying P5 games, or additional funding for helping teams get possible bowl bids, does not help the perception of the conference?

You guys are a hoot! Just having EpicCajun say something positive about the conference is enough for me to post such annoying video and as for Saint333333 just the usual obsessive compulsive looking for an opportunity to say something negative about GS. "They will never get it". Get what?

Since you seem like a reasonable poster, Olyeller, let me get your opinion on one thing about the SBC.

Since we brought up revenue and revenue sharing in this post ... How do think most Ga Southern fans and posters here feel about the fact that Krazy Karl uses Conference football revenue generated by the conference and bowl teams, and distributes that revenue as part of the conference revenue sharing agreement to non-football playing members of the SBC like UTA and UALR.

I'm not in the business of defending folks. Just from the lack of support on this board alone I'd say he needs to go but if I had to guess he's using the money as leverage particularly when the members of the conference you love so much have little opportunity to change their circumstance.

And that's the real issue I have with the conference, not so much the member institutions (well a couple or 3 could leave and I d be happy), but the terrible, irrational, illogical leadership from the conference and lack of cohesion between the member presidents. It's like a bunch of arguing high school girls run this conference.

Here we are celebrating yet another Sun Belt shocker. One of our programs is currently the toast of prime time despite all of it. We just need to keep knocking along investing in the programs. We'll be fine.
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RE: Georgia State vs Baylor NCAA Tournament thread 1:45pm ET TBS
this is awesome no matter how you size it up. Great win for everyone.
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RE: Georgia State vs Baylor NCAA Tournament thread 1:45pm ET TBS
Only negative about one poster, unless he speaks for all GS fans. Many were very classy and congratulated them.

Then you quoted hammer22, classic reading comprehension.
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RE: Georgia State vs Baylor NCAA Tournament thread 1:45pm ET TBS
(03-20-2015 07:51 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  good lord some people have skin thinner than the lacquer coating that separated Coach Hunter from the wood after RJ hit the game winning shot.

It was brought up that this win was great for the conference, and I responded that outside of money, this win doesn't do anything to change people's perception of the league. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

It was a great win for Ga State. It is getting them a ton of press and air time. They will certainly enjoy this and remember this win for a long time, and that is awesome for their fans to have something like this to celebrate. It was a big upset. CONGRATS!
Their win will do as much for the Sun Belt as us beating UF did for the SoCon or the Sun Belt.

I swear to god some of you on here just want to find a reason to be offended or get upset at something.

Good lord, pub for any team in the conference is pub for the conference, period. ESPN may not come out and say Sun Belt wins a game in the tourney, but I guarantee you there are people out there looking up Georgia State. Seeing their season, who they played and what they did. And yes, that means seeing what conference they play.

There are people in the SBC schools who say wow, I saw (or heard) that team play my team and reinforces their program. I expect Georgia State to have a better attendance average next year. I'd also wager a bet that they will bring more people out to other conference games on the road, more money in the bank with tickets, concessions and the like.

I'd say there is a greater determination within conference schools to compete. Don't take it the wrong way, but many athletic departments are asking if Georgia State can do it, why can't we.

So yes, the win does help the conference. If you think we are saying their win means the Sun Belt is now on the P5 level, then no, it won't. But there is no way, no way it doesn't mean anything.
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RE: Georgia State vs Baylor NCAA Tournament thread 1:45pm ET TBS
(03-20-2015 08:23 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  
(03-20-2015 07:51 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  good lord some people have skin thinner than the lacquer coating that separated Coach Hunter from the wood after RJ hit the game winning shot.

It was brought up that this win was great for the conference, and I responded that outside of money, this win doesn't do anything to change people's perception of the league. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

It was a great win for Ga State. It is getting them a ton of press and air time. They will certainly enjoy this and remember this win for a long time, and that is awesome for their fans to have something like this to celebrate. It was a big upset. CONGRATS!
Their win will do as much for the Sun Belt as us beating UF did for the SoCon or the Sun Belt.

I swear to god some of you on here just want to find a reason to be offended or get upset at something.

Good lord, pub for any team in the conference is pub for the conference, period. ESPN may not come out and say Sun Belt wins a game in the tourney, but I guarantee you there are people out there looking up Georgia State. Seeing their season, who they played and what they did. And yes, that means seeing what conference they play.

There are people in the SBC schools who say wow, I saw (or heard) that team play my team and reinforces their program. I expect Georgia State to have a better attendance average next year. I'd also wager a bet that they will bring more people out to other conference games on the road, more money in the bank with tickets, concessions and the like.

I'd say there is a greater determination within conference schools to compete. Don't take it the wrong way, but many athletic departments are asking if Georgia State can do it, why can't we.

So yes, the win does help the conference. If you think we are saying their win means the Sun Belt is now on the P5 level, then no, it won't. But there is no way, no way it doesn't mean anything.

Perfectly written
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RE: Georgia State vs Baylor NCAA Tournament thread 1:45pm ET TBS
(03-20-2015 09:09 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  and yet, not 1 more person will care any more about the sun belt, or think that the sun belt is any better of a conference. my comments are about perception of our league, which means just as much as winning money, which I am glad they are doing for us. Until the sun belt is perceived as a better league, we still will not be able to demand more tv games nor will we garner any national attention during the regular season.

Ga State has done its job. Now the rest of the belt needs to step up to really make a difference.

I respectfully disagree with the bolded above. I guarantee you the selection committees of both the NIT and the NCAA's have taken notice of GSU's victory, which *could* potentially help w/an at large bid should another SBC team be on the bubble for either tourney. Should GSU repeat and go at least one deep next year, all of my previous statements will only increase. In the end, those folks and the TV folks are the ones who matter the most in general conference exposure.
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RE: Georgia State vs Baylor NCAA Tournament thread 1:45pm ET TBS
(03-21-2015 05:41 PM)airtroop Wrote:  
(03-20-2015 09:09 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  and yet, not 1 more person will care any more about the sun belt, or think that the sun belt is any better of a conference. my comments are about perception of our league, which means just as much as winning money, which I am glad they are doing for us. Until the sun belt is perceived as a better league, we still will not be able to demand more tv games nor will we garner any national attention during the regular season.

Ga State has done its job. Now the rest of the belt needs to step up to really make a difference.

I respectfully disagree with the bolded above. I guarantee you the selection committees of both the NIT and the NCAA's have taken notice of GSU's victory, which *could* potentially help w/an at large bid should another SBC team be on the bubble for either tourney. Should GSU repeat and go at least one deep next year, all of my previous statements will only increase. In the end, those folks and the TV folks are the ones who matter the most in general conference exposure.


Oh man. The NIT you say? My bracket is still in good shape for that. Been following all the games live on espn and my smartphone app.
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RE: Georgia State vs Baylor NCAA Tournament thread 1:45pm ET TBS
(03-22-2015 07:10 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  
(03-21-2015 05:41 PM)airtroop Wrote:  
(03-20-2015 09:09 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  and yet, not 1 more person will care any more about the sun belt, or think that the sun belt is any better of a conference. my comments are about perception of our league, which means just as much as winning money, which I am glad they are doing for us. Until the sun belt is perceived as a better league, we still will not be able to demand more tv games nor will we garner any national attention during the regular season.

Ga State has done its job. Now the rest of the belt needs to step up to really make a difference.

I respectfully disagree with the bolded above. I guarantee you the selection committees of both the NIT and the NCAA's have taken notice of GSU's victory, which *could* potentially help w/an at large bid should another SBC team be on the bubble for either tourney. Should GSU repeat and go at least one deep next year, all of my previous statements will only increase. In the end, those folks and the TV folks are the ones who matter the most in general conference exposure.


Oh man. The NIT you say? My bracket is still in good shape for that. Been following all the games live on espn and my smartphone app.

I get what you're saying, but we're a conference where tournaments NIT-level and even below are worth paying attention to. It'd be a bit like saying it's only worthwhile to watch the New Year's Day Six bowls. You don't think UGA fans would be disappointed if they somehow ended up in the GoDaddy Bowl? I'd be ecstatic if my Panthers made it. I know that bowls are a slightly different ballgame, but some people do pay attention to the rest of the hoops postseason, especially the NIT. We have to keep some perspective in mind.

(I now welcome any and all insults for my "mid-major" mentality.)
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(03-22-2015 08:18 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  
(03-22-2015 07:10 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  
(03-21-2015 05:41 PM)airtroop Wrote:  
(03-20-2015 09:09 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  and yet, not 1 more person will care any more about the sun belt, or think that the sun belt is any better of a conference. my comments are about perception of our league, which means just as much as winning money, which I am glad they are doing for us. Until the sun belt is perceived as a better league, we still will not be able to demand more tv games nor will we garner any national attention during the regular season.

Ga State has done its job. Now the rest of the belt needs to step up to really make a difference.

I respectfully disagree with the bolded above. I guarantee you the selection committees of both the NIT and the NCAA's have taken notice of GSU's victory, which *could* potentially help w/an at large bid should another SBC team be on the bubble for either tourney. Should GSU repeat and go at least one deep next year, all of my previous statements will only increase. In the end, those folks and the TV folks are the ones who matter the most in general conference exposure.


Oh man. The NIT you say? My bracket is still in good shape for that. Been following all the games live on espn and my smartphone app.

I get what you're saying, but we're a conference where tournaments NIT-level and even below are worth paying attention to. It'd be a bit like saying it's only worthwhile to watch the New Year's Day Six bowls. You don't think UGA fans would be disappointed if they somehow ended up in the GoDaddy Bowl? I'd be ecstatic if my Panthers made it. I know that bowls are a slightly different ballgame, but some people do pay attention to the rest of the hoops postseason, especially the NIT. We have to keep some perspective in mind.

(I now welcome any and all insults for my "mid-major" mentality.)

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I agree that I would like to see us play in any bball tournament. I will pull for any sun belt team in a tournament and high five them when they win. But those tourneys just don't move the needle for the rest of college sports fans.
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GS too cheap to bid for a CIT or CBI spot but claims additional revenue doesn't matter. Failsouthern.
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(03-22-2015 11:42 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  GS too cheap to bid for a CIT or CBI spot but claims additional revenue doesn't matter. Failsouthern.

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(03-20-2015 07:51 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  good lord some people have skin thinner than the lacquer coating that separated Coach Hunter from the wood after RJ hit the game winning shot.

It was brought up that this win was great for the conference, and I responded that outside of money, this win doesn't do anything to change people's perception of the league. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

It was a great win for Ga State. It is getting them a ton of press and air time. They will certainly enjoy this and remember this win for a long time, and that is awesome for their fans to have something like this to celebrate. It was a big upset. CONGRATS!
Their win will do as much for the Sun Belt as us beating UF did for the SoCon or the Sun Belt.

I swear to god some of you on here just want to find a reason to be offended or get upset at something.

Good lord, pub for any team in the conference is pub for the conference, period. ESPN may not come out and say Sun Belt wins a game in the tourney, but I guarantee you there are people out there looking up Georgia State. Seeing their season, who they played and what they did. And yes, that means seeing what conference they play.

There are people in the SBC schools who say wow, I saw (or heard) that team play my team and reinforces their program. I expect Georgia State to have a better attendance average next year. I'd also wager a bet that they will bring more people out to other conference games on the road, more money in the bank with tickets, concessions and the like.

I'd say there is a greater determination within conference schools to compete. Don't take it the wrong way, but many athletic departments are asking if Georgia State can do it, why can't we.

So yes, the win does help the conference. If you think we are saying their win means the Sun Belt is now on the P5 level, then no, it won't. But there is no way, no way it doesn't mean anything.

Well said.

I remember Dr. Keel talking about him and his wife looking FGCU when they had their run a few years back. Any mid-major that is new at making noise in post play will have this same kind of reaction.

This was very good for the conference.

Congrats to State on making some noise post season.
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(03-22-2015 11:42 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  GS too cheap to bid for a CIT or CBI spot but claims additional revenue doesn't matter. Failsouthern.

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Looks like it got a single at a minimum.
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RE: Georgia State vs Baylor NCAA Tournament thread 1:45pm ET TBS
I don't know how much it helped but I guarantee if Baylor had blown them out people who pay attention to the BB game scores would think "same old Sun Belt". Well that didn't happen. Thanks GSU.
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