(02-24-2015 01:24 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Something tells me this is the turf athletics will be requesting for the BOT to approve.

http://www.fieldturf.com/en/products/fie...classic-hd

They may have a problem with WISCONSIN in the endzones.

Some of the cheap turf last 6-8 years. I wonder what brand and type Jiff installed in 2009. If he went cheap then that would explain the request.

The Field Turf cost estimator put a new field at around $850k for 97k SQ ft (about the amount for full sidelines and the Brigham Family Plaza)

(02-24-2015 01:06 PM)RitzHuskie Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 01:04 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 12:11 PM)NIU1981 Wrote:  It looks like the playing surface was last replaced in '09. You may recall the sidelines were not replaced at that time so that turf is quite old. The turf in front of the Yordon Center was installed in '07. Are they asking to replace everything or just the playing surface again?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CGxduWAtmw

I remember when Jiff did just the playing surface to cut costs. I'm sure the sidelines have to be hard as a rock with the old turf/technology.

Yea, but I wouldn't think the actual playing field would be in bad shape after 6 years. Maybe I'm wrong?

Also when they built the CPC they wanted the practice field to mirror what was in Huskie Stadium. I see no changes on the actual makeup of the field.

My understanding is it's supposed to be replaced every 10 years at most, so 6 years plus all of the practices they've had on there....might be a little early, but not by much.

Also, keep in mind, the last couple of years on the old turf saw the football team littered with injuries, and a lot of the players talked about how bad that turf was. Better too soon than too late with the replacement surface.

(02-24-2015 01:38 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Some of the cheap turf last 6-8 years. I wonder what brand and type Jiff installed in 2009. If he went cheap then that would explain the request.

its not cheap turf its field turf. Its the same as all other fields. Its either fiels turf or its not, there arn't degrees.

(02-24-2015 02:04 PM)NIUHuskies86 Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 01:06 PM)RitzHuskie Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 01:04 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 12:11 PM)NIU1981 Wrote:  It looks like the playing surface was last replaced in '09. You may recall the sidelines were not replaced at that time so that turf is quite old. The turf in front of the Yordon Center was installed in '07. Are they asking to replace everything or just the playing surface again?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CGxduWAtmw

I remember when Jiff did just the playing surface to cut costs. I'm sure the sidelines have to be hard as a rock with the old turf/technology.

Yea, but I wouldn't think the actual playing field would be in bad shape after 6 years. Maybe I'm wrong?

Also when they built the CPC they wanted the practice field to mirror what was in Huskie Stadium. I see no changes on the actual makeup of the field.

My understanding is it's supposed to be replaced every 10 years at most, so 6 years plus all of the practices they've had on there....might be a little early, but not by much.

Also, keep in mind, the last couple of years on the old turf saw the football team littered with injuries, and a lot of the players talked about how bad that turf was. Better too soon than too late with the replacement surface.

8-10 years is if we bought the good stuff. 6-8 years if we went cheap.


I have also heard two players mentioning how they are not a fan of the current turf condition in the stadium.

(02-24-2015 02:31 PM)GCD70 Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 01:38 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Some of the cheap turf last 6-8 years. I wonder what brand and type Jiff installed in 2009. If he went cheap then that would explain the request.

its not cheap turf its field turf. Its the same as all other fields. Its either fiels turf or its not, there arn't degrees.

Field Turfs own site has 4 different qualities of turf fields specifically for football fields. There are obviously differences in price and longevity otherwise they wouldn't have so many different kinds.

I am getting this info directly from the Field Turf site.

(02-24-2015 02:33 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 02:31 PM)GCD70 Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 01:38 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Some of the cheap turf last 6-8 years. I wonder what brand and type Jiff installed in 2009. If he went cheap then that would explain the request.

its not cheap turf its field turf. Its the same as all other fields. Its either fiels turf or its not, there arn't degrees.

Field Turfs own site had 4 different qualities of turf fields specifically for football fields. There are obviously differences otherwise they wouldn't have so many different kinds.

depending on the sport.

http://www.niuhuskies.com/genrel/042809aab.html

(02-24-2015 02:33 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 02:31 PM)GCD70 Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 01:38 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Some of the cheap turf last 6-8 years. I wonder what brand and type Jiff installed in 2009. If he went cheap then that would explain the request.

its not cheap turf its field turf. Its the same as all other fields. Its either fiels turf or its not, there arn't degrees.

Field Turfs own site had 4 different qualities of turf fields specifically for football fields. There are obviously differences in price and longevity otherwise they wouldn't have so many different kinds.

I am getting this info directly from the Field Turf site.

http://www.sportsdestinations.com/sports...-stad-4708

(02-24-2015 02:40 PM)GCD70 Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 02:33 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 02:31 PM)GCD70 Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 01:38 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Some of the cheap turf last 6-8 years. I wonder what brand and type Jiff installed in 2009. If he went cheap then that would explain the request.

its not cheap turf its field turf. Its the same as all other fields. Its either fiels turf or its not, there arn't degrees.

Field Turfs own site had 4 different qualities of turf fields specifically for football fields. There are obviously differences in price and longevity otherwise they wouldn't have so many different kinds.

I am getting this info directly from the Field Turf site.

http://www.sportsdestinations.com/sports...-stad-4708

I am not arguing that we don't have Field Turf. I am saying that there are 4 different types of Field Turf so it is possible that when we had Field Turf installed in 2009 is was the cheapest model.


Here is the actual Field Turf website for the different turfs they offer for football fields.
http://www.fieldturf.com/en/sports/football

Revolution
http://www.fieldturf.com/en/products/fie...revolution

Classic HD
http://www.fieldturf.com/en/products/fie...classic-hd

XM6
http://www.fieldturf.com/en/products/fieldturf-xm6

XT
http://www.fieldturf.com/en/products/fieldturf-xt

Could this be why?

(02-24-2015 02:48 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 02:40 PM)GCD70 Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 02:33 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 02:31 PM)GCD70 Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 01:38 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Some of the cheap turf last 6-8 years. I wonder what brand and type Jiff installed in 2009. If he went cheap then that would explain the request.

its not cheap turf its field turf. Its the same as all other fields. Its either fiels turf or its not, there arn't degrees.

Field Turfs own site had 4 different qualities of turf fields specifically for football fields. There are obviously differences in price and longevity otherwise they wouldn't have so many different kinds.

I am getting this info directly from the Field Turf site.

http://www.sportsdestinations.com/sports...-stad-4708

I am not arguing that we don't have Field Turf. I am saying that there are 4 different types of Field Turf so it is possible that when we had Field Turf installed in 2009 is was the cheapest model.


Here is the actual Field Turf website for the different turfs they offer for football fields.
http://www.fieldturf.com/en/sports/football

Revolution
http://www.fieldturf.com/en/products/fie...revolution

Classic HD
http://www.fieldturf.com/en/products/fie...classic-hd

XM6
http://www.fieldturf.com/en/products/fieldturf-xm6

XT
http://www.fieldturf.com/en/products/fieldturf-xt

I know you don't like Compher, but he did not cheap out. The only economy they did was not field turf the surrounding.

(02-24-2015 03:05 PM)GCD70 Wrote:  I know you don't like Compher, but he did not cheap out. The only economy they did was not field turf the surrounding.

I actually didn't mind Compher when he was here. It just now that we have Frazier I think the program is much better off. Same goes for Baker over Peters.

(02-24-2015 03:31 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 03:05 PM)GCD70 Wrote:  I know you don't like Compher, but he did not cheap out. The only economy they did was not field turf the surrounding.

I actually didn't mind Compher when he was here. It just now that we have Frazier I think the program is much better off. Same goes for Baker over Peters.

saying he cheaped it out is saying he does not care about players safety. The turf we got was state of the art for football.

A new issue that hasn't gotten much attention yet from the safety standpoint is cleanliness. There are a couple lawsuits in the works because some labs have concluded the ground-up rubber pellets not only have hazardous chemicals but there's a lot of bacteria from blood, snot, sweat, bird fecies, etc. None of that is a pleasant thought, but someone could make a fortune coming up with a disinfectant.

I don't think they will change anything about the way the turf looks. I sure hope they don't. As for the red endzones in the rendering, I don't think that means anything as for how the turf will actually look. The most realistic photo of the stadium in the master plan the turf looks like it currently does. My guess is they are just planning to replace with the same looking turf.

(02-24-2015 03:41 PM)GCD70 Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 03:31 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 03:05 PM)GCD70 Wrote:  I know you don't like Compher, but he did not cheap out. The only economy they did was not field turf the surrounding.

I actually didn't mind Compher when he was here. It just now that we have Frazier I think the program is much better off. Same goes for Baker over Peters.

saying he cheaped it out is saying he does not care about players safety. The turf we got was state of the art for football.

Only if you overexadurate what I said.

Getting Field Turf is not a bad move at all. I was just wondering if we got the kind that last for 6-8 years rather than 8-10 years to save a few bucks.

I said and meant nothing about a lower safety factor due to a lower cost turf from Field Turf.

(02-24-2015 12:02 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  I'd like to see us have a black field with white yard line markers and red endzones.

I'm pretty sure you were one of those complaining about EMU's turf making the TV look like a black and white game.

Any color other than green is nauseating and kitschy. Moreover, the NCAA has been toying with the idea of outlawing turf colors that match uniforms (Boise State = Blue) for years because it gives an unfair advantage. The hurdle they face is how to deal with primarily green uniforms like Michigan State.

Getting black turf, or even...ugh red turf, could potentially mean having to replace it if the rule goes through. Much like a souped up '99 Honda Civic with a V-12 engine, just because you can, doesn't always mean you should.

(02-24-2015 04:58 PM)thehappyhuskie Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 12:02 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  I'd like to see us have a black field with white yard line markers and red endzones.

I'm pretty sure you were one of those complaining about EMU's turf making the TV look like a black and white game.

Any color other than green is nauseating and kitschy. Moreover, the NCAA has been toying with the idea of outlawing turf colors that match uniforms (Boise State = Blue) for years because it gives an unfair advantage. The hurdle they face is how to deal with primarily green uniforms like Michigan State.

Getting black turf, or even...ugh red turf, could potentially mean having to replace it if the rule goes through. Much like a souped up '99 Honda Civic with a V-12 engine, just because you can, doesn't always mean you should.

I was joking. I would only want to see green turf. It's the color turf should be.

(02-24-2015 04:58 PM)thehappyhuskie Wrote:  Getting black turf, or even...ugh red turf, could potentially mean having to replace it if the rule goes through. Much like a souped up '99 Honda Civic with a V-12 engine, just because you can, doesn't always mean you should.

getting either color would suck, if they have to color something the endzones are fine or do the colored sidelines, the main field should be green. As for a rule change, there is no way they would force a school to change what already exists. It would be grandfathered in. When it needed to be replaced they would not be allowed to use non-green.