http://www.nacubo.org/Documents/Endowmen...Values.pdf

American Athletic (median: 417 mil)
SMU 1.466 bil
Cincinnati 1.184 bil
Tulane 1.184 bil
Tulsa 1.015 bil
Houston 790 mil
South Florida 417 mil
Connecticut 384 mil
Temple 375 mil
Memphis 201 mil
East Carolina 164 mil
Central Florida 155 mil
Navy (NR)

Mid American (median: 320 mil)
Massachusetts 757 mil
Buffalo 625 mil
Ohio 516 mil
Miami 464 mil
Toledo 416 mil
WMU 320 mil
Akron 212 mil
Ball St 192 mil
CMU 108 mil
Northern Illinois 71 mil
EMU 66 mil
Kent St (NR)
Bowling Green (NR)

Mountain West (median: 272 mil)
New Mexico 423 mil
Wyoming 420 mil
Nevada 295 mil
Colorado St 284 mil
Utah St 282 mil
Hawaii 272 mil
UNLV 228 mil
San Diego St. 191 mil
Fresno State 162 mil
San Jose St. 119 mil
Boise State 89 mil
Air Force (NR)

Conference USA (median: 156 mil)
Rice 5.528 bil
Old Dominion 214 mil
FAU 209 mil
FIU 177 mil
Charlotte 169 mil
North Texas 143 mil
Western Kentucky 135 mil
Marshall 106 mil
Middle Tenn 88 mil
Southern Miss 78 mil
UTEP (NR)
UTSA (NR)
La Tech (NR)
UAB (NR)

Sun Belt (median: 133 mil)
South Alabama 323 mil
Idaho 241 mil
New Mexico St 223 mil
Texas State 161 mil
Georgia St 133 mil
Appalachian St 91 mil
Troy 57 mil
Arkansas St 52 mil
Georgia Southern 49 mil
Louisiana (NR)
ULM (NR)

A few observations......

-What is Rice doing in Conference USA? They don't fit there institutionally at all. They really should try to package deal with Texas to the PAC.

-The AAC has the best endowment numbers. By far the best academics top to bottom of any of the G5 conferences. This is why I have a difficult time seeing Marshall and Southern Mississippi scoring invites here.

-MAC is a solid academic group. Beyond the schools at the top, the MAC has Toledo (has medical, law, engineering, business and pharmacy schools), Western Michigan (been in the MAC since 1947) and Ball State has a good rep across that region.

-California schools of the MWC bring that conference down academically. They pale in comparison to their land grant counterparts.

-Boise State, Marshall, Northern Illinois and Georgia Southern play some of the best football in the G5. They also all have very small endowments in common. Maybe there is a coincidence........

(02-21-2015 07:59 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  A few observations......

-What is Rice doing in Conference USA? They don't fit there institutionally at all. They really should try to package deal with Texas to the PAC.

-The AAC has the best endowment numbers. By far the best academics top to bottom of any of the G5 conferences. This is why I have a difficult time seeing Marshall and Southern Mississippi scoring invites here.

-MAC is a solid academic group. Beyond the schools at the top, the MAC has Toledo (has medical, law, engineering, business and pharmacy schools), Western Michigan (been in the MAC since 1947) and Ball State has a good rep across that region.

-California schools of the MWC bring that conference down academically. They pale in comparison to their land grant counterparts.

-Boise State, Marshall, Northern Illinois and Georgia Southern play some of the best football in the G5. They also all have very small endowments in common. Maybe there is a coincidence........

Relationships. Rice and Southern Miss and to a lesser extent Marshall and UTEP have relationships with the AAC schools. Charlotte has basketball from a number of years back. If the AAC takes another CUSA school, look to those first 4.

I suppose this statistic is important, but it doesn't take into consideration other financial factors. For example, the state of Connecticut has invested about $3 billion in UConn since 1990. I don't know what the exact amount is; it may be closer to $4 billion. It's an insane amount of money.

I wish UConn had that money before I was an undergrad in the 1980's.

(02-21-2015 07:59 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  A few observations......

-What is Rice doing in Conference USA? They don't fit there institutionally at all. They really should try to package deal with Texas to the PAC.

-The AAC has the best endowment numbers. By far the best academics top to bottom of any of the G5 conferences. This is why I have a difficult time seeing Marshall and Southern Mississippi scoring invites here.

-MAC is a solid academic group. Beyond the schools at the top, the MAC has Toledo (has medical, law, engineering, business and pharmacy schools), Western Michigan (been in the MAC since 1947) and Ball State has a good rep across that region.

-California schools of the MWC bring that conference down academically. They pale in comparison to their land grant counterparts.

-Boise State, Marshall, Northern Illinois and Georgia Southern play some of the best football in the G5. They also all have very small endowments in common. Maybe there is a coincidence........

If we're talking G5 academics, the AAC comes out really good with Navy, Tulane, UConn, SMU, and Tulsa.

Of course, UConn doesn't think of itself as a G5 school (no offense intended).

(02-21-2015 07:44 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  http://www.nacubo.org/Documents/Endowmen...Values.pdf



Conference USA (median: 156 mil)
Rice 5.528 bil
UAB 393.4 mil http://uasystem.ua.edu/wp-content/upload...6-2015.pdf
Old Dominion 214 mil
FAU 209 mil
UTEP 183.3 mil http://www.utimco.org/scripts/PrivateEnd...mplist.asp
FIU 177 mil
Charlotte 169 mil
North Texas 143 mil
Western Kentucky 135 mil
UTSA 112.1 mil See UTEP
Marshall 106 mil
La Tech 93.7 mil http://www.latech.edu/administration/gra...201314.pdf
Middle Tenn 88 mil
Southern Miss 78 mil

filled out CUSA, median unchanged

Also, the more realistic median of the MAC is 202 mil.

UMass is out the door (and was never a full member anyway) and I highly doubt BGSU (2010 endowment of $119 mil) and Kent (2011 endowment of $109 mil) have endowments higher than $212 mil

Notice the correlation of private schools having higher endowments than the public schools. The very large majority of private schools will have higher endowments than publicly funded schools.

Usf has done a phenomenal job in this area. Ucf has finally gotten the message. It increased 40 million or so in a year. If that continues look out

(02-21-2015 07:44 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  http://www.nacubo.org/Documents/Endowmen...Values.pdf

Sun Belt (median: 133 mil)
South Alabama 323 mil
Idaho 241 mil
New Mexico St 223 mil
Texas State 161 mil
Georgia St 133 mil
Appalachian St 91 mil
Troy 57 mil
Arkansas St 52 mil
Georgia Southern 49 mil
Louisiana ($181 mil) audit report
ULM ($58.8 mil) audit report

(02-22-2015 02:16 PM)Cajunman02 Wrote:  

(02-21-2015 07:44 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  http://www.nacubo.org/Documents/Endowmen...Values.pdf

Sun Belt (median: 133 mil)
South Alabama 323 mil
Idaho 241 mil
New Mexico St 223 mil
Texas State 161 mil
Georgia St 133 mil
Appalachian St 91 mil
Troy 57 mil
Arkansas St 52 mil
Georgia Southern 49 mil
ULL ($181 mil) audit report
ULM ($58.8 mil) audit report

(02-21-2015 07:59 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  A few observations......

-What is Rice doing in Conference USA? They don't fit there institutionally at all. They really should try to package deal with Texas to the PAC.

Working on it, and keeping in touch with the ACC, Big 12, and B1G, too. Just not in the same in-your-face way as our cross-town friends on Cullen Boulevard.

(02-21-2015 07:44 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  http://www.nacubo.org/Documents/Endowmen...Values.pdf


Sun Belt (median: 133 mil)
South Alabama 323 mil
Idaho 241 mil
New Mexico St 223 mil
Texas State 161 mil
Georgia St 133 mil
Appalachian St 91 mil
Troy 57 mil
Arkansas St 52 mil
Georgia Southern 49 mil
Louisiana (NR)
ULM (NR)

South Alabama has 2 endowment funds:

227 - University of South Alabama Foundation AL - $323,136
336 - University of South Alabama AL - $174,138

Total $497,274

Rice should be immediately in the AAC with other top academic and heavy endowed universities but having two universities in Houston is a negative in marketing. Rice baseball should be in the AAC with Houston,Tulane,Central Florida,South Florida and East Carolina.

I saw NR listed both for the University of Louisiana at Lafayette ULL and its sister companion school the University of Louisiana at Monroe ULM on the Sunbelt list. Wikipedia shows ULL's endowment at $112,265,103 with 17,195 students enrolled. For ULM it show an endowment of $23,157,741 with 8526 students. I never heard of a university called Louisiana in our state!

(02-21-2015 07:59 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  -Boise State, Marshall, Northern Illinois and Georgia Southern play some of the best football in the G5. They also all have very small endowments in common. Maybe there is a coincidence........

If you are inferring that there are funds being rerouted, in GS's case, that is not true.

(02-22-2015 11:56 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Notice the correlation of private schools having higher endowments than the public schools. The very large majority of private schools will have higher endowments than publicly funded schools.

A private school's entire budget is endowment, so of course it is higher than a public school.

(02-23-2015 02:39 AM)Savacool Wrote:  I saw NR listed both for the University of Louisiana at Lafayette ULL and its sister companion school the University of Louisiana at Monroe ULM on the Sunbelt list. Wikipedia shows ULL's endowment at $112,265,103 with 17,195 students enrolled. For ULM it show an endowment of $23,157,741 with 8526 students. I never heard of a university called Louisiana in our state!

UL Foundation Report

Here is the most current endowment report.

(02-23-2015 02:39 AM)Savacool Wrote:  I saw NR listed both for the University of Louisiana at Lafayette ULL and its sister companion school the University of Louisiana at Monroe ULM on the Sunbelt list. Wikipedia shows ULL's endowment at $112,265,103 with 17,195 students enrolled. For ULM it show an endowment of $23,157,741 with 8526 students. I never heard of a university called Louisiana in our state!

http://louisiana.edu/

Meh, you have to be careful comparing flat endowment numbers with one another. Not all endowments are created equally and certain ones in certain areas or states have various limitations on them.

(02-21-2015 07:59 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  A few observations......

-What is Rice doing in Conference USA? They don't fit there institutionally at all. They really should try to package deal with Texas to the PAC.

-The AAC has the best endowment numbers. By far the best academics top to bottom of any of the G5 conferences. This is why I have a difficult time seeing Marshall and Southern Mississippi scoring invites here.

-MAC is a solid academic group. Beyond the schools at the top, the MAC has Toledo (has medical, law, engineering, business and pharmacy schools), Western Michigan (been in the MAC since 1947) and Ball State has a good rep across that region.

-California schools of the MWC bring that conference down academically. They pale in comparison to their land grant counterparts.

-Boise State, Marshall, Northern Illinois and Georgia Southern play some of the best football in the G5. They also all have very small endowments in common. Maybe there is a coincidence........

Also, Idaho and NMSU are at the top of the SBC but their performance is....

Seriously, this has absolutely nothing to do with the potential or prestige of an athletic program.