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RE: How much will "full cost of attendance" add to costs of SB schools?
(01-20-2015 02:35 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  MAC Commish Steinbrecher was quoted on CBS Sports saying the MAC schools cost from this will range from $500,000 to $1 million. Depending on Title IX and Cost of Living index, etc... Im sure SBC is the same. He also then said that it was no big deal because there are new revenue sources coming on board that will cover it. (CFP payment and TV)
Yep. Probably end up on the low end of that range but either way it is not a huge issue. May end up being a good thing for us.
01-20-2015 02:39 PM
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(01-20-2015 02:39 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  
(01-20-2015 02:35 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  MAC Commish Steinbrecher was quoted on CBS Sports saying the MAC schools cost from this will range from $500,000 to $1 million. Depending on Title IX and Cost of Living index, etc... Im sure SBC is the same. He also then said that it was no big deal because there are new revenue sources coming on board that will cover it. (CFP payment and TV)
Yep. Probably end up on the low end of that range but either way it is not a huge issue. May end up being a good thing for us.


If it's a good thing then you know the entitled 5 screwed up.
01-20-2015 02:43 PM
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(01-20-2015 02:43 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  
(01-20-2015 02:39 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  
(01-20-2015 02:35 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  MAC Commish Steinbrecher was quoted on CBS Sports saying the MAC schools cost from this will range from $500,000 to $1 million. Depending on Title IX and Cost of Living index, etc... Im sure SBC is the same. He also then said that it was no big deal because there are new revenue sources coming on board that will cover it. (CFP payment and TV)
Yep. Probably end up on the low end of that range but either way it is not a huge issue. May end up being a good thing for us.


If it's a good thing then you know the entitled 5 screwed up.
The G5 weren't the ones that prevented these rules, it was the conferences below the G5 and the P5 are interested in not getting sued. That is the bottom line in all of this. I don't believe they are out to get all of us. They already have insurmountable advantages over us and they can elevate any program of their choosing with an invitation.

Heck, I think they were looking out for us by not making these changes mandatory for FBS membership and participation in the NCAA Tournament. Making them optional just allows us to compete at whatever level we find appropriate.
01-20-2015 02:53 PM
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(01-19-2015 11:57 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  NCAA passed stipends for head count only. (Gymastics, Volleyball, M,W Basketball, Football, there may be another) Equiovlancy Sports (Baseball etc) may receive a percentage stipend based on their scholarship percentage.

Mohajir said in an interview, that he estimates it costing between 650-750K per year. He's probably a little high. I'd agree with Crump's 600K estimate.

For FBS schools, it's not a big deal, we each get a million dollar check anyway for the CFB Playoff. However, It will be worth watching what the Missouri Valley, Big Sky, and the other top FCS leagues do, because it's going to be much harder for them to afford it.

I agree that for FBS schools the stipends should be no big deal. If the SBC could ever get a decent TV contract with revenue similar to other G5 conferences, that would easily cover the stipends.

I think the FCS schools will not be able or willing to give stipends. There is just not the revenue from college football playoff system or the revenue from TV to cover the expense. It really is not worth it to spend the extra money at the FCS level.
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(01-20-2015 02:04 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  
(01-20-2015 01:46 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  
(01-20-2015 11:31 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  
(01-19-2015 11:00 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  I think that is right. Figure 4k to 5k for head count only. 600k or so a year, ballpark.

More like 950K-1M
How so? 85 for FB, 13 for MBB, 15 for WBB and some for volleyball. We are not talking 200 recipients.

Uh, no. The non-headcount sports will still be getting the money.



Not paying all sports will result in lawsuits.
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(01-20-2015 10:39 PM)cleburneslim Wrote:  
(01-20-2015 02:04 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  
(01-20-2015 01:46 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  
(01-20-2015 11:31 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  
(01-19-2015 11:00 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  I think that is right. Figure 4k to 5k for head count only. 600k or so a year, ballpark.

More like 950K-1M
How so? 85 for FB, 13 for MBB, 15 for WBB and some for volleyball. We are not talking 200 recipients.

Uh, no. The non-headcount sports will still be getting the money.



Not paying all sports will result in lawsuits.

Not according to direct quotes from the Atlantic 10 commish and UMass AD among many others in the know. There just has to be equal mens and womens stipends but not all sports.
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The a 10 commish and umass ad is not in control of who files lawsuits.
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Yeah, anyone can file a lawsuit. That is a very low threshold. That doesn't mean they have a great chance of success. If there were a really strong case then someone likely would have sued already due to more men being on full scholarship.
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(01-21-2015 12:00 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  Yeah, anyone can file a lawsuit. That is a very low threshold. That doesn't mean they have a great chance of success. If there were a really strong case then someone likely would have sued already due to more men being on full scholarship.

No track or baseball athlete has ever [to my knowledge] sued because [s]he got a 1/4 ride while someone else got a full ride in football. That ain't changing. Everyone is making a big deal out of this, but it is a tempest in a teapot. It is not like football and hoops players are going on salary, they are just changing the rule on full scholarships to include full cost of attendance [as defined by Pell/Stafford FAFSA guidelines] instead of just tuition, fees, room, board and books. It will raise the cost of a full scholarship at UL by about $4000/year maximum. What will likely happen in non-headcount sports is that the value of a full will increase to the same as in headcount and the coaches will work from there.
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I agree. It is being overblown.
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Big time
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This is not going to last long. The amount of lawsuits are going to be staggering
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There will be a couple. They will lose. Life will go on.
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(01-23-2015 05:34 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  This is not going to last long. The amount of lawsuits are going to be staggering

Sure, let Davidson and Samford file a lawsuit against the P5. Good luck with that.

Remember, the P5 are the ones making the gravy.
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