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RE: 3-0 in perspective - 9 times
According to KenPom.com, UAB is only favored in one of the next seven games. Three of them are projected to be real close games.
It would be great to be 6-4 after the next seven games.
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BlazerGold09
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RE: 3-0 in perspective - 9 times
(01-11-2015 01:16 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote: I don't think it's outlandish to expect us to do better than 4-9 in OOC and not lose to a D2 team (granted it's a meaningless game, but still embarrassing). It's ok to admit we were garbage in the OOC, and we seemed to have made a nice turnaround. We are beating the mediocre teams that were beating us early in the year. I'm not gonna get overly excited about being 3-0 against mediocre teams, especially when we have essentially zero chance at any postseason play unless we win the cusa tourney.
MB can you look at the OOC records & RPI/records of the teams they beat to go 3-0? It might help to put some of this in perspective.
No one is mad that we've gone 3-0, but we still have a losing record in our coach's third year and for the majority of the year we've been very bad. Unless your grasping at straws to defend a very mediocre coach thus far, you wouldn't be jumping up and down over these results. 3-0 against mediocre teams should be expected at UAB, not celebrated..
I celebrate having a team that won't have to be rebuilt each year. Show me any where in our history we have had to put 3 and 4 freshman on the court at one time. Coach is building a sustainable program.
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01-11-2015 01:37 PM |
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RE: 3-0 in perspective - 9 times
(01-11-2015 01:37 PM)BlazerGold09 Wrote: Show me any where in our history we have had to put 3 and 4 freshman on the court at one time. Coach is building a sustainable program.
Mitchell. Mincy. Gordon.
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BlazerGold09
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RE: 3-0 in perspective - 9 times
(01-11-2015 01:46 PM)58-56 Wrote: (01-11-2015 01:37 PM)BlazerGold09 Wrote: Show me any where in our history we have had to put 3 and 4 freshman on the court at one time. Coach is building a sustainable program.
Mitchell. Mincy. Gordon.
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01-11-2015 01:56 PM |
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RE: 3-0 in perspective - 9 times
(01-11-2015 01:46 PM)58-56 Wrote: (01-11-2015 01:37 PM)BlazerGold09 Wrote: Show me any where in our history we have had to put 3 and 4 freshman on the court at one time. Coach is building a sustainable program.
Mitchell. Mincy. Gordon.
2 of the three have numbers that are hanging from the rafters now. Maybe we'll have some UAB greats come from this class, too!
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01-11-2015 01:58 PM |
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RE: 3-0 in perspective - 9 times
(01-11-2015 01:37 PM)BlazerGold09 Wrote: (01-11-2015 01:16 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote: I don't think it's outlandish to expect us to do better than 4-9 in OOC and not lose to a D2 team (granted it's a meaningless game, but still embarrassing). It's ok to admit we were garbage in the OOC, and we seemed to have made a nice turnaround. We are beating the mediocre teams that were beating us early in the year. I'm not gonna get overly excited about being 3-0 against mediocre teams, especially when we have essentially zero chance at any postseason play unless we win the cusa tourney.
MB can you look at the OOC records & RPI/records of the teams they beat to go 3-0? It might help to put some of this in perspective.
No one is mad that we've gone 3-0, but we still have a losing record in our coach's third year and for the majority of the year we've been very bad. Unless your grasping at straws to defend a very mediocre coach thus far, you wouldn't be jumping up and down over these results. 3-0 against mediocre teams should be expected at UAB, not celebrated..
I celebrate having a team that won't have to be rebuilt each year. Show me any where in our history we have had to put 3 and 4 freshman on the court at one time. Coach is building a sustainable program.
I've heard rumors that a few players, HaHa Lee being one of them, transferring due to the football fiasco. We may be rebuilding after all. Hope not, but wouldn't blame them for leaving.
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01-11-2015 02:08 PM |
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Memphis Blazer
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RE: 3-0 in perspective - 9 times
(01-11-2015 02:08 PM)blazinrunner Wrote: (01-11-2015 01:37 PM)BlazerGold09 Wrote: (01-11-2015 01:16 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote: I don't think it's outlandish to expect us to do better than 4-9 in OOC and not lose to a D2 team (granted it's a meaningless game, but still embarrassing). It's ok to admit we were garbage in the OOC, and we seemed to have made a nice turnaround. We are beating the mediocre teams that were beating us early in the year. I'm not gonna get overly excited about being 3-0 against mediocre teams, especially when we have essentially zero chance at any postseason play unless we win the cusa tourney.
MB can you look at the OOC records & RPI/records of the teams they beat to go 3-0? It might help to put some of this in perspective.
No one is mad that we've gone 3-0, but we still have a losing record in our coach's third year and for the majority of the year we've been very bad. Unless your grasping at straws to defend a very mediocre coach thus far, you wouldn't be jumping up and down over these results. 3-0 against mediocre teams should be expected at UAB, not celebrated..
I celebrate having a team that won't have to be rebuilt each year. Show me any where in our history we have had to put 3 and 4 freshman on the court at one time. Coach is building a sustainable program.
I've heard rumors that a few players, HaHa Lee being one of them, transferring due to the football fiasco. We may be rebuilding after all. Hope not, but wouldn't blame them for leaving.
I believe that is just chicken littles getting their message out. If he was going to transfer, he would have done it before the semester started so he could start his new team sooner. There is a lot of unfounded stuff flying around out there with no basis in fact.
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RE: 3-0 in perspective - 9 times
(01-11-2015 01:37 PM)BlazerGold09 Wrote: (01-11-2015 01:16 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote: I don't think it's outlandish to expect us to do better than 4-9 in OOC and not lose to a D2 team (granted it's a meaningless game, but still embarrassing). It's ok to admit we were garbage in the OOC, and we seemed to have made a nice turnaround. We are beating the mediocre teams that were beating us early in the year. I'm not gonna get overly excited about being 3-0 against mediocre teams, especially when we have essentially zero chance at any postseason play unless we win the cusa tourney.
MB can you look at the OOC records & RPI/records of the teams they beat to go 3-0? It might help to put some of this in perspective.
No one is mad that we've gone 3-0, but we still have a losing record in our coach's third year and for the majority of the year we've been very bad. Unless your grasping at straws to defend a very mediocre coach thus far, you wouldn't be jumping up and down over these results. 3-0 against mediocre teams should be expected at UAB, not celebrated..
I celebrate having a team that won't have to be rebuilt each year. Show me any where in our history we have had to put 3 and 4 freshman on the court at one time. Coach is building a sustainable program.
Eddins, Tobias, Jones, Broom - 2002-03
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RE: 3-0 in perspective - 9 times
going into conference play, i thought we'd go 6-12.
I'm now going with 9-9...which would be an improvement from last years 7-9
I'm still holding out hope for 15-3 :)
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01-11-2015 02:14 PM |
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RE: 3-0 in perspective - 9 times
(01-11-2015 02:13 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote: (01-11-2015 01:37 PM)BlazerGold09 Wrote: (01-11-2015 01:16 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote: I don't think it's outlandish to expect us to do better than 4-9 in OOC and not lose to a D2 team (granted it's a meaningless game, but still embarrassing). It's ok to admit we were garbage in the OOC, and we seemed to have made a nice turnaround. We are beating the mediocre teams that were beating us early in the year. I'm not gonna get overly excited about being 3-0 against mediocre teams, especially when we have essentially zero chance at any postseason play unless we win the cusa tourney.
MB can you look at the OOC records & RPI/records of the teams they beat to go 3-0? It might help to put some of this in perspective.
No one is mad that we've gone 3-0, but we still have a losing record in our coach's third year and for the majority of the year we've been very bad. Unless your grasping at straws to defend a very mediocre coach thus far, you wouldn't be jumping up and down over these results. 3-0 against mediocre teams should be expected at UAB, not celebrated..
I celebrate having a team that won't have to be rebuilt each year. Show me any where in our history we have had to put 3 and 4 freshman on the court at one time. Coach is building a sustainable program.
Eddins, Tobias, Jones, Broom - 2002-03
That was a team that got better by the end of the year and made serious noise in the conference tournament.
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RE: 3-0 in perspective - 9 times
(01-11-2015 02:13 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote: (01-11-2015 01:37 PM)BlazerGold09 Wrote: (01-11-2015 01:16 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote: I don't think it's outlandish to expect us to do better than 4-9 in OOC and not lose to a D2 team (granted it's a meaningless game, but still embarrassing). It's ok to admit we were garbage in the OOC, and we seemed to have made a nice turnaround. We are beating the mediocre teams that were beating us early in the year. I'm not gonna get overly excited about being 3-0 against mediocre teams, especially when we have essentially zero chance at any postseason play unless we win the cusa tourney.
MB can you look at the OOC records & RPI/records of the teams they beat to go 3-0? It might help to put some of this in perspective.
No one is mad that we've gone 3-0, but we still have a losing record in our coach's third year and for the majority of the year we've been very bad. Unless your grasping at straws to defend a very mediocre coach thus far, you wouldn't be jumping up and down over these results. 3-0 against mediocre teams should be expected at UAB, not celebrated..
I celebrate having a team that won't have to be rebuilt each year. Show me any where in our history we have had to put 3 and 4 freshman on the court at one time. Coach is building a sustainable program.
Eddins, Tobias, Jones, Broom - 2002-03
didn't 2 of those 4 break the freshman season scoring record? (theres a chance i made that up)
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01-11-2015 02:15 PM |
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RE: 3-0 in perspective - 9 times
We need to ask chris if he's still around...I'm sure he will have the full scoop on William Lee.
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01-11-2015 02:23 PM |
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RE: 3-0 in perspective - 9 times
I could see some of our guys transferring. But honestly, much like haase, where could they go that would be a better situation? Most of our freshmen have played well, but they aren't setting the world on fire. I doubt someone like HAHA would have as many opportunities knocking at his door as he did as a high school senior. Calhoun, Sullivan - where would they go? I don't see norton leaving with his dad at UAB. Cokley could probably get a nice spot somewhere.
I just think that they'd be better served to stay here. Like you guys are saying, we are building a good team. It'll take some time. However, if we drop down to a truly terrible conference, I could see our guys leaving en masse, and I wouldn't blame them a bit..
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01-11-2015 02:23 PM |
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RE: 3-0 in perspective - 9 times
(01-11-2015 02:15 PM)LairDweller Wrote: (01-11-2015 02:13 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote: (01-11-2015 01:37 PM)BlazerGold09 Wrote: (01-11-2015 01:16 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote: I don't think it's outlandish to expect us to do better than 4-9 in OOC and not lose to a D2 team (granted it's a meaningless game, but still embarrassing). It's ok to admit we were garbage in the OOC, and we seemed to have made a nice turnaround. We are beating the mediocre teams that were beating us early in the year. I'm not gonna get overly excited about being 3-0 against mediocre teams, especially when we have essentially zero chance at any postseason play unless we win the cusa tourney.
MB can you look at the OOC records & RPI/records of the teams they beat to go 3-0? It might help to put some of this in perspective.
No one is mad that we've gone 3-0, but we still have a losing record in our coach's third year and for the majority of the year we've been very bad. Unless your grasping at straws to defend a very mediocre coach thus far, you wouldn't be jumping up and down over these results. 3-0 against mediocre teams should be expected at UAB, not celebrated..
I celebrate having a team that won't have to be rebuilt each year. Show me any where in our history we have had to put 3 and 4 freshman on the court at one time. Coach is building a sustainable program.
Eddins, Tobias, Jones, Broom - 2002-03
didn't 2 of those 4 break the freshman season scoring record? (theres a chance i made that up)
IIRC, Jones broke the record, PDIII broke that record, then Kinnard broke that record.
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RE: 3-0 in perspective - 9 times
(01-11-2015 02:39 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: Guys transfer every year. Sometimes they see the writing on the wall concerning playing time, sometimes they move up in the food chain, sometimes they just miss their girlfriend. If they do, so be it. Transferring doesn't mean it is because of football though and it doesn't mean the end of the world.
I believe football's demise alone won't be a problem, but if it results in conference degradation from C-USA, it could have an effect on players who have multiple seasons to offer another school, especially if the NCAA allows them to play immediately.
About half of our FB team's underclassmen found new homes so I would expect a negative direction conference change to have the same effect on our BB underclassmen. As with the FB players, the best of the BB players will have the greatest number of choices.
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01-11-2015 02:53 PM |
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RE: 3-0 in perspective - 9 times
(01-11-2015 02:41 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote: (01-11-2015 02:15 PM)LairDweller Wrote: (01-11-2015 02:13 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote: (01-11-2015 01:37 PM)BlazerGold09 Wrote: (01-11-2015 01:16 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote: I don't think it's outlandish to expect us to do better than 4-9 in OOC and not lose to a D2 team (granted it's a meaningless game, but still embarrassing). It's ok to admit we were garbage in the OOC, and we seemed to have made a nice turnaround. We are beating the mediocre teams that were beating us early in the year. I'm not gonna get overly excited about being 3-0 against mediocre teams, especially when we have essentially zero chance at any postseason play unless we win the cusa tourney.
MB can you look at the OOC records & RPI/records of the teams they beat to go 3-0? It might help to put some of this in perspective.
No one is mad that we've gone 3-0, but we still have a losing record in our coach's third year and for the majority of the year we've been very bad. Unless your grasping at straws to defend a very mediocre coach thus far, you wouldn't be jumping up and down over these results. 3-0 against mediocre teams should be expected at UAB, not celebrated..
I celebrate having a team that won't have to be rebuilt each year. Show me any where in our history we have had to put 3 and 4 freshman on the court at one time. Coach is building a sustainable program.
Eddins, Tobias, Jones, Broom - 2002-03
didn't 2 of those 4 break the freshman season scoring record? (theres a chance i made that up)
IIRC, Jones broke the record, PDIII broke that record, then Kinnard broke that record.
Most points scored by a freshman in a season:
1. Demario Eddins (2002-03) 349 33
2. Paul Delaney (2005-09) 269 31
3. Richard Jones (2002-03) 233 33
4. Damon Cobb (1995-96) 212 30
5. Steve Mitchell (1982-83) 199 31
6. Jerome Mincy (1982-83) 188 32
7. Larry Rembert (1986-87) 188 32
8. Oliver Robinson 1978-79 180 26
9. Corey Jackson (1991-92) 180 29
10. Aaron Johnson (2007-08) 178 34
Kinnard is #13 on the list with 157 pts.
Right now, with at least 16 games to go, our freshman scoring is
Baxter, Hakeem 112
Cokley, Chris 107
Norton, Nick 98
Lee William 66
Sullivan, Lewis 37
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RE: 3-0 in perspective - 9 times
(01-11-2015 02:58 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: (01-11-2015 02:53 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote: (01-11-2015 02:39 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: Guys transfer every year. Sometimes they see the writing on the wall concerning playing time, sometimes they move up in the food chain, sometimes they just miss their girlfriend. If they do, so be it. Transferring doesn't mean it is because of football though and it doesn't mean the end of the world.
I believe football's demise alone won't be a problem, but if it results in conference degradation from C-USA, it could have an effect on players who have multiple seasons to offer another school, especially if the NCAA allows them to play immediately.
About half of our FB team's underclassmen found new homes so I would expect a negative direction conference change to have the same effect on our BB underclassmen. As with the FB players, the best of the BB players will have the greatest number of choices.
You think half of the basketball team will leave if they change conferences? You are crazy. The football players left because they no longer have a team. The basketball players still have a team. Even in a lower conference, they still have coaching relationships and player relationships and the ability to play the game for the school and coach they chose.
I am not as certain as you that all those factors will remain in place if we are ejected from C-USA and must move (IF INVITED) to another league. Players can transfer and so can coaches if they feel their future depends upon finding new, more stable, employment. "Player relationships" depend upon substantially all players staying and how many NOT staying will have what effect on the rest is conjecture. UAB could see a new staff trying, like we used to see BBHC Davis do, rebuild nearly a whole team for the 2015-2016 season. UAB is sailing into "uncharted waters" since no public university has ever had to face the challenges it now could face.
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